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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:07 am

The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay was apparently broken by a team called BoogieFast TC.
The team of Ali, Castlin, Lewis, and Harrison ran 50.78, which breaks the AR listed in my 2012 FAST Annual as being 52.96, run in 2008 by Texas A&M!!

That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:53 am

Looked like some fun 4x1's
M4x1 - Gainesville Elite (who ran?) 38.52 beat Demps-Gatlin-Martina-Hyman's 38.59
B4x1 - American Heritage new #1 HS leader in 40.49 over Miami Washington 40.60
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:01 pm

aaronk wrote:The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay
That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!

EVERYone cheats in the SHR!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:02 pm

Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay
That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!

EVERYone cheats in the SHR!


I love relays but I've always disliked this event. I guess it's something for the hurdlers to do during Relay Carnivals.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby kellits2gnv » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:21 pm

gktrack wrote:Looked like some fun 4x1's
M4x1 - Gainesville Elite (who ran?) 38.52 beat Demps-Gatlin-Martina-Hyman's 38.59
B4x1 - American Heritage new #1 HS leader in 40.49 over Miami Washington 40.60


Gainesville elite was Sorillo-Mcquay-Mikel Thomas-Rodgers.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:01 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay
That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!

EVERYone cheats in the SHR!


I love relays but I've always disliked this event. I guess it's something for the hurdlers to do during Relay Carnivals.


Tell the truth, I couldn't care less about ANY "shuttle hurdle relay", but when you SHATTER a "record" by two seconds or more, it's worth a mention!!

So unless they ran just 90 meters each, or had 1 or 2 less hurdles each, I have to give this run SOME chops!!

The women's 4X800 relay produced a couple of good marks.
Tennessee ran 8:28.81 ahead of Florida's 8:30.15.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:03 pm

aaronk wrote:So unless they ran just 90 meters each, or had 1 or 2 less hurdles each, I have to give this run SOME chops!!

Or the last three all left early . . .
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Blues » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:41 pm

Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:So unless they ran just 90 meters each, or had 1 or 2 less hurdles each, I have to give this run SOME chops!!

Or the last three all left early . . .


And besides the fact that there's always a gray area regarding how early the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hurdlers can start and not get DQ'd, are there that many opportunities for four elite professional hurdlers to team up for an official shuttle hurdles relay and have a chance to break an American or World record? And like most relays, it's not surprising that splits are faster than open hurdles times, considering the last 3 athletes get a rolling (or early) start, and can accurately anticipate when they should start by watching the incoming hurdler.

Open 100H PRs of the athletes on the record setting relay:

Nia Ali 12.73
Kristi Castlin 12.56
Yvette Lewis 12.76
Queen Harrison 12.61

If we allow the last 3 of those 4 athletes to start on will or possibly early, always with at least a rolling start and full visual anticipation of when they'll be able to start, I'm not sure if 50.78 and a 12.70 average split seems that incredible to all of us, and especially since baton exchanges aren't involved. Props to the ladies for breaking the AR though.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:57 pm

G4x4 - new HS #1 leader for St. Thomas Aquinas - 3:40.74, w/ 2 sophs, 1 junior and a senior.
B4x4 - new HS #1 & #2 leaders as well, 3:13.32 for Lakewood over 3:13.45 for Miami Washington, must have been a great race...
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:37 pm

Blues wrote: Props to the ladies for breaking the AR though.

Agreed. Whatever 'cheating' is going on, it's a level playing field; the previous team did it too.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:41 pm

Reese Hoffa had a SP of 69-11 and 3/4!!
It's a MR!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:24 pm

A women's 4X400 team called One Goal Athletics ran 3:24.58.
Florida and Texas ran 3:27.43 and 3:27.97 in 2nd and 3rd.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:35 pm

Marlow wrote:
Blues wrote: Props to the ladies for breaking the AR though.

Agreed. Whatever 'cheating' is going on, it's a level playing field; the previous team did it too.


I'm not sure the goal should be who can cheat the best. :lol:
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:38 pm

Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby trackdug » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:00 pm

gktrack wrote:Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064


Dudes at Flotrack say JW split 43.8 and Tyson split 45.3. GO JW!!!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:02 pm

gktrack wrote:Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064


I don't know what the splits were but Wariner took his team from 4th to 1st slightly over UF on the 2nd leg and McQuay had no one to run against as either Seymore ran a poor leg for UF on the 3rd leg or the 3rd leg for Adidas ran really well. Arman Hall anchoring for UF looked like he ran a good leg.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:10 pm

Pretty accurate Dutra5 - tough to tell from this video, I tried timing it a few times, but I had J. Wariner in sub-45, A. Hall in low-45 and Tyson Gay in mid-45 (if that was him on opening leg w/ lots of facial hair). Any better timers than myself, please chime in.
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250627-2013-Florida-Relays/video/704093-M-4x400-H01-adidas-302-Florida-304
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:18 pm

trackdug wrote:
gktrack wrote:Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064


Dudes at Flotrack say JW split 43.8 and Tyson split 45.3. GO JW!!!


I had Gay 45.9, Wariner mid 44's and Arman Hall at 45.1 which means McQuay probably ran 46.0 or worse. Not sure we'll ever get splits.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:36 pm

I split UF at 45.9,45.3,48.0,45.3. Wariner had to be a full second faster than UF's second leg.
Nick Uruburu splt 46.1 on hs 4x4, but got the baton in last place.
Other performances I didn't see listed above-
w jav - Vucenovic, UF 181-10 (ncaa fave?)
st - Parrish, UF 8:42.38
ham - Lomicky(un) 248-2 (75.64)
hs-
girls 4x4 - 2.Wakefield 3:43.71, 3.Am. Heritage 3:47.93
girls shot,disc - Cameron, Miami NW 45-11.25, 158-2
110h - Tucker, Am Heritage 13.83 (2.2 wind)
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:00 pm

Bruce Kritzler wrote:I split UF at 45.9,45.3,48.0,45.3. Wariner had to be a full second faster than UF's second leg.
Nick Uruburu splt 46.1 on hs 4x4, but got the baton in last place....

I really like the way A. Hall (and Glass for that matter) is running thus far as a freshman, lots of promise, and a notch up on his friend/rival A. Bailey over at A&M... If they had Dukes on that third leg (or Florida recruit Uruburu, ha, ha), they would have surely given the Adidas pro team more than they could handle.

Really nice to see Wariner looking good again, let's hope he progresses thru the WC's...
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:28 am

Bruce Kritzler wrote:I split UF at 45.9,45.3,48.0,45.3. Wariner had to be a full second faster than UF's second leg.
Nick Uruburu splt 46.1 on hs 4x4, but got the baton in last place.


Tim Holmes of Lakewood split 46.1 as well. For a guy who'd never cracked 48.00 open or relay that was quite a jump.
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