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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby trackstar » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:35 pm

polevaultpower wrote:I just gave birth two days ago and I am pretty sure that my new baby brain is just hallucinating these MPV results from Texas Relays... right? :shock:


And oh yeah ... Congrats on the new baby!
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby CKuykendall » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:33 pm

Valarie Allman, Longmont Silver Creek [Colorado] (SR), 184-02 in the discus.

That shows to put her #6 on the all-time U.S. high school list.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:25 pm

Lots of good races and marks to report:

Drouin beats Kynard!
7-6 and 1/2 for Drouin. 7-5 and 1/4 for both M Jackson and Kynard.
3 more at 7-3 or better!
So 6 collegians at 7-3....in March!

TX A&M---1:20.78 in the 4X200R (Bryan, Hardy, Bailey, Webb).
TX A&M---38.64 in the 4X100 (Webb, Bailey, Bryan, Hardy).
Florida 2nd in 38.99.

TX A&M women---42.56.

In the open race, Elite Speed, with Muna Lee anchoring, ran 42.97.
VCB's team DNF'ed.

Stratton Sprint (Spearmon, Mitchell, Connaughton, Patton) ran 38.36 in the 4X100R.

Brianna Rollins ran a slightly wind-aided (2.1) 12.54 in the 100H.
2nd was Vashti Thomas in 12.70.

Cabral ran a wind-aided (2.6) 13.33, followed by S Adams in 13.47.
Eddie Lovett was 8th in 13.84.

Finally, in the HS boys 110H, Tony Brown ran 13.38 with a wind of 0.9!!
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:57 pm

Question to those in attendance at the TX Relays:

Is the HS girls PV finished?
The results show Lakan Taylor and Annie Rhodes at 13-8 and 1/2, with Rhodes ahead.
Rhodes made that height on first try, Taylor on 3rd attempt.
Are they still going, or did they decide to stop after that height??

I feel both are capable of getting the HSR this year.
Rhodes has already gone 14-0 this year, and Taylor is just a half-inch back.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:03 pm

Darvis Patton runs 9.75......with a 4.3 wind at his back!!

But.....9.75!!

ADD: Some other wind-aided marks:

Cameron Burrell---10.07 (3.2) in HS race.
Lauryn Williams---11.02 (2.3).
Kim Duncan---11.06 (2.8).
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:09 pm

That's a 9.93 adjusted. Regardless, it's one of the fastest times ever run this early in the year.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby fasttrack85 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:38 pm

aaronk wrote:Darvis Patton runs 9.75......with a 4.3 wind at his back!!

But.....9.75!!

ADD: Some other wind-aided marks:

Cameron Burrell---10.07 (3.2) in HS race.
Lauryn Williams---11.02 (2.3).
Kim Duncan---11.06 (2.8).



Grandpa Patton is picking up speed whoot whoot. I am a bit dissapointed with Duncan this time last year she was 10.94(3.0). I wonder if she is taking things easier because she is seriously eyeing a spot in Moscow? Lauryn Williams is showing she can't be counted out just yet. That time this early in the season shows she has just as good a shot as anyone(except myabe Jeter) if she stays healthy. Cameron Burrell is well on his way to being elite he may be giving Bolt and Blake problems as soon as 2016.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby batonless relay » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:48 pm

I. Do. Not. Like ever. Consider. Times. Run. In Texas. Near Texas. Around Texas. Or. Even next to Texas. As an indicator. Of what someone. Anyone. Will run. Ever, or later. It's information. As far as I'm concerned. Not. A result.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby t_monk » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:55 pm

I am mostly impressed by that 11.02 +2.3w for Lauryn. That is the best she has looked so early in the season since about 2008....
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby trackdug » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:07 pm

Is that split by Wariner correct? JW claims it's faster on Twitter.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby fasttrack85 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:10 pm

batonless relay wrote:I. Do. Not. Like ever. Consider. Times. Run. In Texas. Near Texas. Around Texas. Or. Even next to Texas. As an indicator. Of what someone. Anyone. Will run. Ever, or later. It's information. As far as I'm concerned. Not. A result.



Why?????????
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby batonless relay » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:15 pm

fasttrack85 wrote:
batonless relay wrote:I. Do. Not. Like ever. Consider. Times. Run. In Texas. Near Texas. Around Texas. Or. Even next to Texas. As an indicator. Of what someone. Anyone. Will run. Ever, or later. It's information. As far as I'm concerned. Not. A result.



Why?????????

History. If questions of "authenticity" about Loughborough, Clermont, Eugene and Rieti had an origin it's locus would be Texas.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:25 pm

trackdug wrote:Is that split by Wariner correct? JW claims it's faster on Twitter.



44.58?
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:14 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
trackdug wrote:Is that split by Wariner correct? JW claims it's faster on Twitter.



44.58?


Or how about the split assigned to Deon Lendore--44.46??
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Mighty Favog » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:11 pm

Mike Hartfield (Ohio State) broke Jesse Owens' outdoor school record by 2cm. Finally, after 77 years and 10 months.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:32 pm

Terrifying that Jesse Owens would still be very close to world class in 2013.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:32 pm

aaronk wrote:Lots of good races and marks to report:

Drouin beats Kynard!
7-6 and 1/2 for Drouin. 7-5 and 1/4 for both M Jackson and Kynard.
3 more at 7-3 or better!
So 6 collegians at 7-3....in March!


Kynard bowed out before attempting 2.33. Since Drouin was ahead on misses, I assumed that Kynard would come in after Drouin's three misses, but that didn't happen. Perhaps a mild injury caused Kynard to pack it in early.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:34 pm

batonless relay wrote:I. Do. Not. Like ever. Consider. Times. Run. In Texas. Near Texas. Around Texas. Or. Even next to Texas. As an indicator. Of what someone. Anyone. Will run. Ever, or later. It's information. As far as I'm concerned. Not. A result.


Some of us with stop watches were laughing at some of the announced splits. That said, I do believe Wariner's was in the 44's. He ran a great leg.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:40 pm

One mark not mentioned yet is the 17'8.5" PV by HSer Daven Murphree. If I'm not mistaken, that puts him in the top 10 of all time for US HS vaulters. Quite a week for vaulters.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby dj » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:04 pm

bruce3404 wrote:Kynard bowed out before attempting 2.33. Since Drouin was ahead on misses, I assumed that Kynard would come in after Drouin's three misses, but that didn't happen. Perhaps a mild injury caused Kynard to pack it in early.


Are you saying Kynard did have a mild injury or is that your conjecture?
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby enpsalmx » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:09 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Terrifying that Jesse Owens would still be very close to world class in 2013.

Not terrifying.....just a testament as to why Jesse is in every conversation about the G.O.A.T.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby CookyMonzta » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:15 pm

Mighty Favog wrote:Mike Hartfield (Ohio State) broke Jesse Owens' outdoor school record by 2cm. Finally, after 77 years and 10 months.

I haven't seen the results yet, but I assume it's the long jump you're talking about. Joe Greene was all over that record when he was at Ohio State, but every single time he broke it, it was wind-aided.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:19 pm

dj wrote:Are you saying Kynard did have a mild injury or is that your conjecture?


Simply conjecture. I did prefix my comment with "perhaps". Not sure otherwise why he would have dropped out of the competition.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby dj » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:36 pm

bruce3404 wrote:
dj wrote:Are you saying Kynard did have a mild injury or is that your conjecture?


Simply conjecture. I did prefix my comment with "perhaps". Not sure otherwise why he would have dropped out of the competition.


Yes, you did say "perhaps," but the ambiguity was whether "perhaps" referred to an injury or to the reason for retiring early.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:49 pm

aaronk wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:
trackdug wrote:Is that split by Wariner correct? JW claims it's faster on Twitter.



44.58?


Or how about the split assigned to Deon Lendore--44.46??


That's pretty believable.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby trackdug » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:55 pm

I wish Flotrack would put up the invite 4x4 so I could get a look at JW's leg and time his split.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:05 pm

bruce3404 wrote:One mark not mentioned yet is the 17'8.5" PV by HSer Daven Murphree. If I'm not mistaken, that puts him in the top 10 of all time for US HS vaulters. Quite a week for vaulters.


I meant to mention it earlier, but got involved elsewhere!
Anyway, it ties him for 11th A-T on the HS outdoor list.

But the way he's improving, wouldn't be surprised if he goes 18 feet this year.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby CKuykendall » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:46 pm

A couple of interesting events at the Texas Relays on Saturday concerned Bevo, the mascot longhorn. For some reason they had him down on the infield, standing around for reasons not totally clear, with about four attendants. One of the attendants, with shovel and bucket, had the job of minimizing the extent to which Bevo was fertilizing the artificial turf.

So at almost 12:40 p.m., after six 4x200s, the announcer informs the spectators that, next up, are a pair of 4x800 races. Whereupon, Bevo who's been standing the whole time, picks this exact time to lie down and curl up on the turf. It was hard not to conclude that he was one of those many Texas Relays fans who groove on the sprints but didn't really follow the distances or even middle distances as much.

The meet continues. After the 4x800s they start into the honors presentation. Officials who have officiated 5 years, 10 years, 15, years, etc. A bunch of other stuff. In the program, this is listed as "Awards Presentations and Opening Ceremonies." Why opening ceremonies, partway into an afternoon program, I'm not sure. But anyway, the announcer asks the audience to please rise for the playing of the national anthem, and identifies who is to perform it. So the singer has just barely started into, "Oh, say, can...." and Bevo GETS UP TO HIS FEET!! For the STAR-SPANGLED BANNER!! I don't know if it was coincidence, or they've trained him, or one of the handlers tugged on a rope, or what. But one hypothesis is that this is one patriotic (sprints-loving) longhorn we seem to have.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:53 pm

trackdug wrote:I wish Flotrack would put up the invite 4x4 so I could get a look at JW's leg and time his split.

Wouldn't do that much good unless your watch was synced with the frame rate.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby CKuykendall » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:40 pm

This seemed to me to be one of the deepest ever years for Texas Relays participation by high schools from outside Texas. One or more top six finishes went to:

Crossett High School (Crossett, Arkansas)

St. Mary's Academy (Inglewood, California)

Silver Creek High School (Longmont, Colorado)

St. Thomas Aquinas High School (Fort Lauderdale, Florida)

Danville High School (Danville, Illinois)
Lincoln-Way East High School (Frankfort, Illinois)

Elton High School (Elton, Louisiana)
Northside High School (Lafayette, Louisiana)
Lakeside High School (Sibley, Louisiana)

Saratoga Springs High School (Saratoga Springs, New York)

Edmond Memorial High School (Edmond, Oklahoma)
Jenks High School (Jenks, Oklahoma)
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby gh » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:48 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Terrifying that Jesse Owens would still be very close to world class in 2013.


not terrifying at all; there are countless data points which indicate that no event from the past is easier to be "world class" at than the long jump. Ancient school records abound. All the technology and training in the world have done very little to change the basic equation it seems.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby gm » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:38 pm

Artificial turf, Chris? That was genuine grass taking the crapping power of Mighty Bevo. The cannon shots they fired without warning scared the crap out of me.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby CKuykendall » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:41 am

gm wrote:Artificial turf, Chris? That was genuine grass taking the crapping power of Mighty Bevo. The cannon shots they fired without warning scared the crap out of me.


I would say, "Coulda fooled me." Except it did fool me, even after studying that which, from the spectator walkway on the north side of the infield, appeared extremely manicured.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby bruce3404 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:49 am

CKuykendall wrote:A couple of interesting events at the Texas Relays on Saturday concerned Bevo, the mascot longhorn.


I was hoping they would have brought him out Friday and let him take a lap with the 400 hurdles set up. Not sure why they had him out there on Saturday, but at times it was more interesting watching Bevo than the opening ceremonies.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby CKuykendall » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:53 am

A final comment on my artificial turf claim AKA stupidity. Wonderment at the manicure overcame the common sense issue of why they'd be allowing discus divots, javelin sticks, etc., into that which was not grass.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby user4 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:33 am

gh wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Terrifying that Jesse Owens would still be very close to world class in 2013.


not terrifying at all; there are countless data points which indicate that no event from the past is easier to be "world class" at than the long jump. Ancient school records abound. All the technology and training in the world have done very little to change the basic equation it seems.


Put Jesse on todays surfaced runways and Im guessing you will have to add, an absolute minimum, a foot to his jumps from the mid-1930.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby JumboElliott » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:58 am

That was the gist of my post.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Mighty Favog » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:39 am

gh wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Terrifying that Jesse Owens would still be very close to world class in 2013.


not terrifying at all; there are countless data points which indicate that no event from the past is easier to be "world class" at than the long jump. Ancient school records abound. All the technology and training in the world have done very little to change the basic equation it seems.

If anything terrifies me, it's that Ohio State's media guide listed the old record as set in 1936, without a specific date (all the other records on their list include one). That no one involved in putting that together would take the miniscule effort to look it up and write down May 25, 1935...well, it speaks volumes about why the Buckeyes have been also-rans in Big Ten track for most of the last 40 to 50 years...
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:17 am

Mighty Favog wrote:
gh wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Terrifying that Jesse Owens would still be very close to world class in 2013.


not terrifying at all; there are countless data points which indicate that no event from the past is easier to be "world class" at than the long jump. Ancient school records abound. All the technology and training in the world have done very little to change the basic equation it seems.

If anything terrifies me, it's that Ohio State's media guide listed the old record as set in 1936, without a specific date (all the other records on their list include one). That no one involved in putting that together would take the miniscule effort to look it up and write down May 25, 1935...well, it speaks volumes about why the Buckeyes have been also-rans in Big Ten track for most of the last 40 to 50 years...


That's like saying.....

the Battle of the Alamo happened on March 7, 1836.
D-Day was June 5, 1944.
JFK was assassinated on November 21, 1963.

Well, you get the idea!! :P
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:19 am

JumboElliott wrote:
trackdug wrote:I wish Flotrack would put up the invite 4x4 so I could get a look at JW's leg and time his split.

Wouldn't do that much good unless your watch was synced with the frame rate.

Huh? Maybe I'm being dense here, but isn't the frame-rate irrelevant if you're just timing the video play-back?! It's in 'real-time'.
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