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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:47 am

Amanda Bingson won the HT with a PR of 236-9, moving her to 5th American all-time!!
It also broke the meet record by almost 14 feet!!
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:54 am

Bougard survived!!

She won it with 5649.
Vollmer 2nd in 5578.
Alcide 3rd in 5576.
Hemann 4th in 5531.

Only ones over 5500.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:58 am

Beach and Murphy both cleared 15-1, getting 790 points each.
So they're still 45 points apart.
Beach has 6490.
Murphy has 6445.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Cooter Brown » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:22 pm

aaronk wrote:Beach and Murphy both cleared 15-1, getting 790 points each.
So they're still 45 points apart.
Beach has 6490.
Murphy has 6445.


They weren't done. Beach PR'd at 5.10m and Murphy jumped 4.80.

1 Beach, Curtis JR Duke 5.10m 16-08.75 941
4.10 4.20 4.30 4.40 4.50 4.60 4.70 4.80 4.90 5.00 5.10 5.20
PPP PPP PPP XO O XO O XO O XO O XXX

7 Murphy, Isaac SR Texas 4.80m 15-09.00 849
4.10 4.20 4.30 4.40 4.50 4.60 4.70 4.80 4.90
PPP PPP PPP PPP PPP O O O XXX
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:46 pm

Cooter Brown wrote:
aaronk wrote:Beach and Murphy both cleared 15-1, getting 790 points each.
So they're still 45 points apart.
Beach has 6490.
Murphy has 6445.


They weren't done. Beach PR'd at 5.10m and Murphy jumped 4.80.

1 Beach, Curtis JR Duke 5.10m 16-08.75 941
4.10 4.20 4.30 4.40 4.50 4.60 4.70 4.80 4.90 5.00 5.10 5.20
PPP PPP PPP XO O XO O XO O XO O XXX

7 Murphy, Isaac SR Texas 4.80m 15-09.00 849
4.10 4.20 4.30 4.40 4.50 4.60 4.70 4.80 4.90
PPP PPP PPP PPP PPP O O O XXX


Thanks!!
I was going by the results link provided on the front page.
It had appeared they were done!!
Guess not!! :?
So Beach now has 6641 points!!
With a VERY fast 1500, he could still get 8000...it appears!
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:44 pm

Beach has thrown 157'-158' his last three deca's... that with a 4:14 1500m (the average of his last two decas) would put him at roughly 8050 points.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby nztrackfan » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:52 pm

Won't Beach's result be wind-assisted due to his average wind being over 2 m/s? And if so I would assume that would preclude him from a qualifying mark for World champs presuming his score is high enough (8200?).
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:56 pm

Ashley Spencer ran 58.56 in her 400H heat, finishing 2nd.
I think this was just a prelim, so time wasn't important.
She ran 57.34 a week or two ago.

ADD: Yes, it was a prelim!!
The final is tomorrow!
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:13 pm

nztrackfan wrote:Won't Beach's result be wind-assisted due to his average wind being over 2 m/s? And if so I would assume that would preclude him from a qualifying mark for World champs presuming his score is high enough (8200?).


Well, I highly doubt Beach will be scoring 8200 today, but your general question is a good one that I'd also like to know the answer to, going forward. The decathletes won't have many chances between now WC's, and only Eaton/Hardee (wild card) have the A, and Murphy has the B at this time. Does the IAAF's "Wind-assisted performances shall not be accepted" apply to decathlons? Anyone know?
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:25 pm

gktrack wrote: Does the IAAF's "Wind-assisted performances shall not be accepted" apply to decathlons? Anyone know?


From the IAAF's manual

For World Records in Combined Events
Rule 260
27. The conditions shall have been complied with in each of the individual events, except that, in events where wind velocity is measured, the average velocity (based on the algebraic sum of the wind velocities, as measured for each individual event, divided by the number of such events) shall not exceed plus 2 metres per second.

1. For Entry Standards for IAAF Competitions in Combined Events
At its meeting in March 2010, the IAAF Council decided that the previous wording of Rule 260.27 that applied prior to the above rule change which took effect on 1 November 2009, would still apply in case of validating entry standards for IAAF events and the Olympic Games. Therefore in such cases, the following should be applied solely for the purpose of determining whether an athlete has achieved the entry standard:

“The conditions shall have been complied with in each of the individual events, except that, in
events where wind velocity is measured, at least one of the following conditions shall be
satisfied:
(a) The velocity in any individual event shall not exceed plus 4 metres per second.
(b) The average velocity (based on the sum of the wind velocities, as measured for each
individual event, divided by the number of such events) shall not exceed plus 2 metres per
second.”
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:41 pm

Beach did the JT with a 154-3 for 544 points.
UO's Dakota Keys hit 210-11....for,802 points.
Beach now has 7185.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:50 pm

Thanks Dutra5, very interesting...

So, for example, Beach in this meet had a 100m wind of 2.8, a LJ wind of 3.0 and a 110HH wind of 1.1. Therefore, he met at least the first condition in whether an athlete has reached a certain standard within the rules, since no event was greater than 4.0 mps... so if he does finish over 8000 points, it'll count as a legal B qualifier, right? (even though his average wind speed was over 2.0 mps (2.8+3.0+1.1)/3 = 2.3).

BTW: after the javelin results, I believe Beach will need a 4:19 (which he should do) to break the 8000 point "B" standard.

Add: Beach finishes with a 4:17.94 1500 for 8011 points.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:19 pm

Beach wins with 8011.
He ran 4:17.94 for the 1500.
Second was Martin with 79++.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby olorin » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:37 pm

gktrack wrote:Thanks Dutra5, very interesting...

BTW: after the javelin results, I believe Beach will need a 4:19 (which he should do) to break the 8000 point "B" standard.

Add: Beach finishes with a 4:17.94 1500 for 8011 points.


Beach improve a lot in the jumps setting two big PBs in the HJ (2.11 indoor) and PV(5.10). I believe that with a better HJ in this meet (e.g. 2.09) he could have threaten the "A" standard. But with these kind of throws he will not be a NCAA champion nor he will be on the plane to Moscow.
Bougard had a very poor second day with very weak LJ. She still broke her PB to 5645. I still believe that she will be the favourite for the NCAA title but her young age may prevent her from winning the title.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby olorin » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:54 pm

aaronk wrote:Amanda Bingson won the HT with a PR of 236-9, moving her to 5th American all-time!!
It also broke the meet record by almost 14 feet!!

Bigson 72.16 is also "A" standard (72.00). Last year only Cosby threw longer so it may be that Bigson already booked her self a ticket to Moscow.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:20 pm

gktrack wrote:Thanks Dutra5, very interesting...

So, for example, Beach in this meet had a 100m wind of 2.8, a LJ wind of 3.0 and a 110HH wind of 1.1. Therefore, he met at least the first condition in whether an athlete has reached a certain standard within the rules, since no event was greater than 4.0 mps... so if he does finish over 8000 points, it'll count as a legal B qualifier, right? (even though his average wind speed was over 2.0 mps (2.8+3.0+1.1)/3 = 2.3).


That's my interpretation of the rule.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:21 pm

Looked like Ashley Spencer ran anchor for Illinois in the 4 x 800m?
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:43 pm

Dutra5 wrote:Looked like Ashley Spencer ran anchor for Illinois in the 4 x 800m?


So what's her game plan??
I thought she was supposed to be the leader of the new breed of 400 women!
Now, this year she's running 400H races and an 800?
Maybe she's moving up to the 1500!! :)

ADD: Just checked the data.
It was Ahlivia Spencer who ran the Illini anchor.
She's a junior there.
Ashley is a soph there.
Maybe Ahlivia is Ashley's older sister??
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:34 pm

aaronk wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:Looked like Ashley Spencer ran anchor for Illinois in the 4 x 800m?


So what's her game plan??
I thought she was supposed to be the leader of the new breed of 400 women!
Now, this year she's running 400H races and an 800?
Maybe she's moving up to the 1500!! :)

ADD: Just checked the data.
It was Ahlivia Spencer who ran the Illini anchor.
She's a junior there.
Ashley is a soph there.
Maybe Ahlivia is Ashley's older sister??


Yeah. My bad. They are sisters.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby ATK » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:31 pm

aaronk wrote:400H--Ashley Spencer (2nd-ever 400H--57.34 last week in 1st-ever!)

Anyone know what her HS 300h time would technically convert to?
Her PR (42.11 I think) is about high 56 to mid 57 maybe?
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:10 pm

In the men's 10K, the times weren't special.....the winner running 29:34.
But what WAS interesting was that the first 5 places were all UT runners, ranging from frosh to seniors!
Fifth place was 30:08.
Sounds like the makings of a decent CC team!! :)
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby batonless relay » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:44 am

ATK wrote:
aaronk wrote:400H--Ashley Spencer (2nd-ever 400H--57.34 last week in 1st-ever!)

Anyone know what her HS 300h time would technically convert to?
Her PR (42.11 I think) is about high 56 to mid 57 maybe?

She's right at the conversion which is why a 57.34 shouldn't be much of a surprise, but what is a surprise is that she did it so soon after Indoor Nationals.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby KevinM » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:47 am

aaronk wrote:In the men's 10K, the times weren't special.....the winner running 29:34.
But what WAS interesting was that the first 5 places were all UT runners, ranging from frosh to seniors!
Fifth place was 30:08.
Sounds like the makings of a decent CC team!! :)


UT was 9th at the NCAA meet last fall.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:53 am

Some early morning results, mostly in qualifying, and mostly wind-aided.

W 100H--Rollins 12.85 (2.4)
V Thomas 12.94 (1.8)
M 110H--Lovett 13.47 (2.6)
S Adams 13.65 (2.0)
Cabral 13.65 (2.0)
W 100--K Duncan 11.15 (2.3)
M 100--Jobodwana 10.13 (2.1)
H Adams 10.17 (2.9)
Webb 10.19 (2.8)

In a women's JT final, Vucenovic--172-2
H Carson--171-1
Both are frosh!!
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:59 am

Men's JT
Humphreys--257-9
S Crouser--248-8
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:37 am

The 4X400 prelims were interesting!!

Oregon's women did NOT qualify for the final!!
They ran 3:39.17 with a team of Okodogbe, Roesler, Prandini, and Francis, and finished 11th team!!

However, the OR men's team DID qualify....finishing FIRST, time of 3:08.18, with Berry anchoring.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby JumboElliott » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:45 am

No English Gardner.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:21 pm

aaronk wrote:The 4X400 prelims were interesting!!

Oregon's women did NOT qualify for the final!!
They ran 3:39.17 with a team of Okodogbe, Roesler, Prandini, and Francis, and finished 11th team!!

However, the OR men's team DID qualify....finishing FIRST, time of 3:08.18, with Berry anchoring.


There is an elite men's and women's 4 x 400m which did not have qualifying rounds. It is being run tomorrow.

I thought I read on the Oregon site that they were using the Texas trip to get in some training time as well as compete in the relays. In the woman's race, it appeared each of the competitors ran in the same fashion and that was to run an comfortable 200m and finish the last 100m strong. They didn't look all out. Roesler ran about a 54.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:02 pm

aaronk wrote:Ashley Spencer ran 58.56 in her 400H heat, finishing 2nd.
I think this was just a prelim, so time wasn't important.
She ran 57.34 a week or two ago.

ADD: Yes, it was a prelim!!
The final is tomorrow!


Spencer didn't run the final.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:27 pm

Kendricks 19 3/4 PV

still going
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby wineturtle » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:34 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
gktrack wrote:Thanks Dutra5, very interesting...

So, for example, Beach in this meet had a 100m wind of 2.8, a LJ wind of 3.0 and a 110HH wind of 1.1. Therefore, he met at least the first condition in whether an athlete has reached a certain standard within the rules, since no event was greater than 4.0 mps... so if he does finish over 8000 points, it'll count as a legal B qualifier, right? (even though his average wind speed was over 2.0 mps (2.8+3.0+1.1)/3 = 2.3).


That's my interpretation of the rule.

kingcoe on tracktalk.net posted this link to a 2010 article that indicates the 'no event under 4.0mps' was changed..
http://decathlonusa.typepad.com/files/v ... bruary.pdf
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:38 pm

wineturtle wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:
gktrack wrote:Thanks Dutra5, very interesting...

So, for example, Beach in this meet had a 100m wind of 2.8, a LJ wind of 3.0 and a 110HH wind of 1.1. Therefore, he met at least the first condition in whether an athlete has reached a certain standard within the rules, since no event was greater than 4.0 mps... so if he does finish over 8000 points, it'll count as a legal B qualifier, right? (even though his average wind speed was over 2.0 mps (2.8+3.0+1.1)/3 = 2.3).


That's my interpretation of the rule.

kingcoe on tracktalk.net posted this link to a 2010 article that indicates the 'no event under 4.0mps' was changed..
http://decathlonusa.typepad.com/files/v ... bruary.pdf


That rule may be for the validation of a record whereas the qualification for entry standard is what I posted and they are a bit different....or at least the rule the IAAF has on their website says it's different since that is where I copied it from.

Based on the section I posted earlier in the thread...which addresses the change...it appears for entry standard the 4.0 rule still applies.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby wineturtle » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:03 pm

thanks --such a simple sport- race you to the corner- how high a fence can you jump- how far can you throw a rock :roll:
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby Jon » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:12 pm

Dutra5 wrote:Kendricks 19 3/4 PV

still going
That height (5.81m) remained his best. Second-placer Shawn Barber of Canada is also one to watch. He set a big PB of 5.71m, breaking not only the Canadian junior record but also the national senior record. It's also a North American age-18 best.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby bruce3404 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:14 pm

aaronk wrote:The 4X400 prelims were interesting!!

Oregon's women did NOT qualify for the final!!
They ran 3:39.17 with a team of Okodogbe, Roesler, Prandini, and Francis, and finished 11th team!!

However, the OR men's team DID qualify....finishing FIRST, time of 3:08.18, with Berry anchoring.


How strange was that? Agree with Dutra that the women didn't go all out; not with three members of a team that ran 3:24.54 at the NCAAs last year. No point in peaking in March.

Oh, and to answer the original question, I've been there all three days and plan to attend tomorrow. Good training for the NCAAs, USATF and Worlds. Weather has been very windy, but the temperatures have been most tolerable. Had no idea that there are over 6300 competitors in the various events.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby olorin » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:38 pm

Jon wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:Kendricks 19 3/4 PV

still going
That height (5.81m) remained his best. Second-placer Shawn Barber of Canada is also one to watch. He set a big PB of 5.71m, breaking not only the Canadian junior record but also the national senior record. It's also a North American age-18 best.


This is a HUGE result that probably deserve a thread of its own. Sam Kendricks is 20 years old. His previous PB is 5.50 (6.60 indoor). The result is equal second best (behind Walker’s 5.90) by all Americans since 2010. Only 10 vaulters jumped higher than him since the beginning of this decade, the youngest of them was born in 1989 (three years before Kendricks). Kendricks and Andrew Irwin give the US hope to be competitive again in the PV.
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby trackstar » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:21 pm

As amazing as Kendrick's pole vault win was, it was only the tip of the iceberg of a great competition: nine athletes vaulted 18-1 or higher tonight in Austin. According to TFRRS, only six vaulters cleared 18-1 in the entire 2012 season.

Perhaps GH or some other historian could tell us what the deepest-ever NCAA vault competition was?
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby polevaultpower » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:12 pm

I just gave birth two days ago and I am pretty sure that my new baby brain is just hallucinating these MPV results from Texas Relays... right? :shock:
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby trackstar » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:18 pm

Becca, I just started a separate thread on tonight's PV at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50202
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Re: Texas Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:19 pm

polevaultpower wrote:I just gave birth two days ago and I am pretty sure that my new baby brain is just hallucinating these MPV results from Texas Relays... right? :shock:


Congratulations!!
Mozeltov to your new child!!

As to the PV.....did you notice that Trey Hardee no-heighted??
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