Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo


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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:29 pm

A third PB for Eaton this season, a modest improvement to his 400 time - 45.64 (previous PB 45.68) in Sam Adams combined events Invitational.
He also threw another 15+ in the SP (15.02).
With 10.33, two PBs in the throws, a PB in the 400, I think that it is a safe bet that Eaton will try to break the WR in Gotsiz (weather permitting)
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby unclezadok » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:38 pm

olorin wrote:A third PB for Eaton this season, a modest improvement to his 400 time - 45.64 (previous PB 45.68) in Sam Adams combined events Invitational.
He also threw another 15+ in the SP (15.02).
With 10.33, two PBs in the throws, a PB in the 400, I think that it is a safe bet that Eaton will try to break the WR in Gotsiz (weather permitting)


He may even try to break it weather not permitting!
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby gktrack » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:42 pm

olorin wrote:A third PB for Eaton this season, a modest improvement to his 400 time - 45.64 (previous PB 45.68) in Sam Adams combined events Invitational.


45.64, very nice, and I'm sure he was running all alone. That would have been an early outdoor world leader if not for Nellum's 45.54 at the Florida Relays today.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby jhc68 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:26 pm

Eaton and Warner (who earlier ran 10.34) set the early pace together in the 400 with Eaton winning by 2-3 meters.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:56 pm

jhc68 wrote:Eaton and Warner (who earlier ran 10.34) set the early pace together in the 400 with Eaton winning by 2-3 meters.

The gap was two seconds (Warner 47.63 PB)
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Jackaloupe » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:23 pm

Any notion of 200m Split?
AE tends to run closer to even splits than most other sub=46ers, not the best way to take advantage of his superior speed, if a safe approach to Decathlon.
He ran in this range shortly before OlyTrials, in a small meet up in Gresham (I think it was), Oregon, near Portland. Also high-jumped (2.05 or more), presumably before the 400.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Jackaloupe » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:00 pm

Here's the Link for Sam Adams Results: http://www.westmont.edu/ftp/ronsmith/Tr ... /index.htm

Eaton and Warner, of Canada, both ran 110H in 13.64 (w= -0.4).
Eaton Discus: 45.27 (F, 45.27, 45.17). Consistent but still a ways to go to reach that reported 50+ mark from practice.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Dave » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:35 pm

unclezadok wrote:
olorin wrote:A third PB for Eaton this season, a modest improvement to his 400 time - 45.64 (previous PB 45.68) in Sam Adams combined events Invitational.
He also threw another 15+ in the SP (15.02).
With 10.33, two PBs in the throws, a PB in the 400, I think that it is a safe bet that Eaton will try to break the WR in Gotsiz (weather permitting)


He may even try to break it weather not permitting!


For Eaton, "weather permitting" probably means cold and rainy....

So, a quick run at the calculator says that 10.4, 8.0, 15, 2.05, 45.7, 13.8, 45,5.20, 65, and 4:20 gets the record(9074) with plenty of room to spare. Aside from the 45.7, none of those marks are particularly awe inspiring for Mr. Eaton at this stage.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby leoesharkey » Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:09 pm

15.40 great from a shuffle, no need to change this season, Discus is the most technical event in T & F, yes even compared to PV, 45m still good! he is a unique athlete, huge improvement in jav, and pr in both 400m and Shot, what a super start to the year ! :D
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:35 pm

olorin wrote:A third PB for Eaton this season, a modest improvement to his 400 time - 45.64 (previous PB 45.68) in Sam Adams combined events Invitational.

Another PB for Eaton this time in non-decathlon event: 20.76 (+1.8) in Mt. Sac relays.
I think that this is a "decathletes WR" (Previous one Daley Thompson 20.88)
Eaton will compete in the 110h tomorrow
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby gktrack » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:15 pm

From here, Eaton's on to P. Jordan/Stanford next week to PV and Discus... CA has been good to/for him.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:38 pm

gktrack wrote:From here, Eaton's on to P. Jordan/Stanford next week to PV and Discus... CA has been good to/for him.

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Since you seem to be close to the Eaton's campaign maybe you know whether Eaton decides in advance in which event to compete or is it according to his past results? For example, if Eaton past marks this season were 58m JT and 50 DT will he still be trying to try the DT in Jordan?
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:03 pm

olorin wrote:
gktrack wrote:From here, Eaton's on to P. Jordan/Stanford next week to PV and Discus... CA has been good to/for him.

gktrack
Since you seem to be close to the Eaton's campaign maybe you know whether Eaton decides in advance in which event to compete or is it according to his past results? For example, if Eaton past marks this season were 58m JT and 50 DT will he still be trying to try the DT in Jordan?

No, I'm just a T&F fan who's really enjoying the recent progress of the decathlon, my son lives in Santa Barbara (hence, the enhanced awareness), and when I'm bored I look at upcoming heat sheets... I look to you and our fellow posters for insight and to further my knowledge, so keep your posts coming. Enjoy.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Jackaloupe » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:03 pm

gk: Also as a close observer, I've noticed (and posted) a pattern of "pairing" events that are so-ordered in Decathlon, e.g. HJ & 400 in No. Oregon (Portland or Gresham) last summer prior to OlyTrials, PV & Jav. in last year's Jordan Meet (back when Eaton had yet to hit 60m, which he managed that day). So PV & Discus make perfect sense, esp. in view of D being a weak link, and PV always benefiting from a tuneup.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby nianchengyu » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:35 pm

Eaton ran 13.37s /+2.7 110mH and beat Rinchardson , :D
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby user4 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:45 am

nianchengyu wrote:Eaton ran 13.37s /+2.7 110mH and beat Rinchardson , :D

wow!... get ready to see a Deca WR in 2013.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby gh » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:24 am

Nobody's a bigger Eaton fan than I, but I never read too much into wind readings that strong in the hurdles, given that unlike the 100 it doesn't affect all people equally.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Dave » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:41 pm

gh wrote:Nobody's a bigger Eaton fan than I, but I never read too much into wind readings that strong in the hurdles, given that unlike the 100 it doesn't affect all people equally.


Wise, but I also expect a WR this year. He is strengthening many events and doesn't seem to be losing his edge anywhere.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:44 pm

WRs in the deca are really tough because you really only get one or two shots a year, you have to be uninjured at the time and for long enough leading up to the meet, and you have to keep from having much of anything go wrong.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Dave » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:34 pm

26mi235 wrote:WRs in the deca are really tough because you really only get one or two shots a year, you have to be uninjured at the time and for long enough leading up to the meet, and you have to keep from having much of anything go wrong.


True. I wonder how much Nike pays him for a WR?
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby unclezadok » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:22 pm

Dave wrote:
26mi235 wrote:WRs in the deca are really tough because you really only get one or two shots a year, you have to be uninjured at the time and for long enough leading up to the meet, and you have to keep from having much of anything go wrong.


True. I wonder how much Nike pays him for a WR?


Not enough.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Dave » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:07 pm

gktrack wrote:From here, Eaton's on to P. Jordan/Stanford next week to PV and Discus... CA has been good to/for him.


Any speculation about what to expect from him? Has he put all of his efforts into improving the throws?
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:39 pm

Dave wrote:
gktrack wrote:From here, Eaton's on to P. Jordan/Stanford next week to PV and Discus... CA has been good to/for him.


Any speculation about what to expect from him? Has he put all of his efforts into improving the throws?

This is how I will rank his performances (current PBs 47.36, 5.30):

Disappointing:.......less than 45,........less than 5.00
Ok:....................45-46,................5.00-5.10
Good:................~47.00,................5.20
Very good:............47.37-50.0,.........5.30
Wow:..................more than 50,......PB
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Dave » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:10 pm

We haven't seen him vault since London. I am hoping for a big PR.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Jackaloupe » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:05 pm

What with Eaton's newly acquired strength (those Weight PRs aren't all technique, esp. w/ those conservative "approaches" in both Jav and SP), it could well carry over into a PV PR. He sure looked great at Oly Trials, before wisely stopping to conserve energy for the 1500.

And to respond to the query above: no way has training solely focused on Weights, as evidenced by sterling HH and 400m times.

It's gonna be a tantalizing Spring season as other events reveal current level, starting w/ HJ...
And Discus should be good Sunday, just as Jav. was a real breakthrough (first 60m+) at last year's Payton Jordan Invit.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:37 pm

Dave wrote:
gktrack wrote:From here, Eaton's on to P. Jordan/Stanford next week to PV and Discus... CA has been good to/for him.


Any speculation about what to expect from him? Has he put all of his efforts into improving the throws?

Eaton with somewhat disappointing result:
He jumped 4.90 in the PV (he skipped 5.05 and failed three times in 5.20)
He decided not to compete in the DT
Hopefully no injury behind his decision
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Jackaloupe » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:46 pm

Here's my Post from US Multis Thread:

What a disappointment at Stanford: Eaton not only passed on the Discus altogether, but elected to pass 5.05, then miss 5.20, ending up w/ 4.90, a full 1 1/2 ft. below PR (5.30). While it made a certain sense in the context of the competition, it's perplexing in terms of the apparent "controlled workout" approach of these selective competitions.

Finals
1 Levi Keller Club Northwest 5.30m 17-04.50
4.45 4.60 4.75 4.90 5.05 5.20 5.30 5.50
P P P P P XXO XO XXX
2 Kasey Burlingham Azpva 5.20m 17-00.75
4.45 4.60 4.75 4.90 5.05 5.20 5.30
P P P XO O O XXX
3 Ashton Eaton Nike Otc Elite 4.90m 16-00.75
4.45 4.60 4.75 4.90 5.05 5.20
P P P XO P XXX

Makesya wonder if something came up, or maybe it was the schedule.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby tm71 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:27 pm

i think we are forgeting this is only in the spring. if he is peaking properly and stays healthy, he will destroy his WR. lets also hope that he gets some decent conditions in the meets he competes in.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:54 pm

tm71 wrote:i think we are forgeting this is only in the spring. if he is peaking properly and stays healthy, he will destroy his WR. lets also hope that he gets some decent conditions in the meets he competes in.


Eaton's season is likely to be different from other top athletes. Most of the American athletes try to pick in June (for the national trials) and then again in August. Eaton is likely to try to pick in Gotizs less than a month from now. If this is true then early season results are more important for Eaton than for other athletes.
Having said that yesterday's below par results for Eaton are not a reason for concern. Even Eaton may have an off day in a minor meet. The only worry is if the results are due to some kind of injury that will affect his preparation for Gotizs.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby Jackaloupe » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:55 am

I wasn't even suggesting he'd had an "off day", but wondering why he'd passed on the long-planned Discus (having already chalked up PRs in Jav & SP at similar carefully chosen small meets); and noting that a pass, in PV of a full foot (490 to 520) is not exactly replicating Decathlon competition. It's safe to say he would've cleared that passed 505, or even 17 ft., hardly sub-par.
Maybe he just felt like competing; after all, wasn't there some conjecture about a Pole Vaulting future--once the Decathlon WR has been suitably demolished.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby bruce3404 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:09 am

olorin wrote:
tm71 wrote:i think we are forgeting this is only in the spring. if he is peaking properly and stays healthy, he will destroy his WR. lets also hope that he gets some decent conditions in the meets he competes in.


Eaton's season is likely to be different from other top athletes. Most of the American athletes try to pick in June (for the national trials) and then again in August. Eaton is likely to try to pick in Gotizs less than a month from now. If this is true then early season results are more important for Eaton than for other athletes.


While Gotzis is a huge meet for multi athletes and their fans, I don't at all see Eaton working towards peaking at a meet that's pretty far off the radar for the average sports fan. This isn't to say he won't win, but the single peak for the season has to be Moscow. My guess is that, if healthy, he'll score around 8750, which should be good enough to win at Gotzis since I don't expect Hardee to be in top form that early.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby olorin » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:55 am

bruce3404 wrote:While Gotzis is a huge meet for multi athletes and their fans, I don't at all see Eaton working towards peaking at a meet that's pretty far off the radar for the average sports fan. This isn't to say he won't win, but the single peak for the season has to be Moscow. My guess is that, if healthy, he'll score around 8750, which should be good enough to win at Gotzis since I don't expect Hardee to be in top form that early.

After losing in Deagu Eaton said in few interviews that his biggest mistake was that he came to the WC aiming for a high score rather than aiming for a gold medal. He said that this frame of mind added pressure and once he failed (after the LJ) he was unable to re-focus on winning the competition.
Before London Eaton stated few times that his goal in London was to win the gold and not another WR.
Following this logic I think that it is unlikely that Eaton will try for a big score in Moscow but rather in Gotizs or in Des Moines. Of the two Gotizs seems like the better bet as losing there will only cost Eaton some pride rather than the possibility of not making the American team. So I think that Eaton strategy will be to try for a big score in Gotizs and then ensure qualification in Des Moines.
There are two other reasons to support my "Gotizs theory". First, Eaton early form is already close to his pick in most events (and three PBs) suggesting that Gotizs is the probable target. Second, there is a good chance that for the first time in my life I will come to the States to watch the competition. I think that giving my luck with these things it is only fitting that Eaton will be at his best in Gotizs rather than in Des Moines.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby TimRoy » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:25 am

Anyone else planning to be in Gotzis? I'll be there, and would be happy to say hello to fellow multi-event enthusiasts met through this message board. It should be a great competition, as always.
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Re: Eaton 66.64 (218'8") Javelin in San Luis Obispo

Postby bruce3404 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:11 am

olorin wrote:
bruce3404 wrote:
Following this logic I think that it is unlikely that Eaton will try for a big score in Moscow but rather in Gotizs or in Des Moines. Of the two Gotizs seems like the better bet as losing there will only cost Eaton some pride rather than the possibility of not making the American team. So I think that Eaton strategy will be to try for a big score in Gotizs and then ensure qualification in Des Moines.
There are two other reasons to support my "Gotizs theory". First, Eaton early form is already close to his pick in most events (and three PBs) suggesting that Gotizs is the probable target. Second, there is a good chance that for the first time in my life I will come to the States to watch the competition. I think that giving my luck with these things it is only fitting that Eaton will be at his best in Gotizs rather than in Des Moines.


I don't at all expect Eaton to be at a peak level for Des Moines. He'll have no competition! Hardee only has to "show fitness", meaning he can run the 100 and then quit and there's no one else expected to score even 8300. Like yourself, however, I have no clear idea what his intentions are and whatever they are, it'll be fun to watch. Let us know if you'll be coming to Des Moines. There will most likely only be a hard core of a couple hundred of us who watch the entire competition.
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