USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump "


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USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump "

Postby unclezadok » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:26 pm

Yes, in its report on the Indoor Youth Championships the USATF reported on the "hop, skip and jump," an event which has never existed, even in the time of Adhemar Ferreira da Silva. To their credit, they do not make mention of throwing the shot put.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Pego » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:43 pm

unclezadok wrote:Yes, in its report on the Indoor Youth Championships the USATF reported on the "hop, skip and jump," an event which has never existed, even in the time of Adhemar Ferreira da Silva. To their credit, they do not make mention of throwing the shot put.


Thank you for depressing me. I witnessed da Silva-Shcherbakov rivalry :wink: .
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:56 pm

It is much more descriptive than 'triple jump' and I think kids know what to do more than when told to triple jump.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Marlow » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:13 pm

26mi235 wrote:It is much more descriptive than 'triple jump' and

I think kids know what to do more than when told to triple jump.


??!! There is no 'skip' in it all all. It's clearly a bound (he said straight-facedly serious). I have NEVER had a kid who could do it without a comprehensive intro first. Telling them to hop, skip, and jump is risible. Just sayin' . . . :D
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby lonewolf » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:26 pm

I did the Triple Jump when it was the Hop-Step-Jump.. a Hop-Skip-Jump would make it, at a minimum, a Quadruple Jump..I think.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby marknhj » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:51 pm

Please tell me this is an early April Fool's wind-up...
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby aaronk » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:25 pm

marknhj wrote:Please tell me this is an early April Fool's wind-up...


I refer you to the Tre Houston thread!! :P
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby unclezadok » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:11 am

Pego wrote:
unclezadok wrote:Yes, in its report on the Indoor Youth Championships the USATF reported on the "hop, skip and jump," an event which has never existed, even in the time of Adhemar Ferreira da Silva. To their credit, they do not make mention of throwing the shot put.


Thank you for depressing me. I witnessed da Silva-Shcherbakov rivalry :wink: .


I came in at Joszef Schmidt.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Marlow » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:41 am

marknhj wrote:Please tell me this is an early April Fool's wind-up...

Your regard of humanity is far too high!! :twisted:
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby gh » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:43 am

when I took up the event in junior high it was most definitely referred to as hop, skip & jump in my neck of the woods (which was, in fact.... pretty much in the woods!)
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby JRM » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:09 am

gh wrote:when I took up the event in junior high it was most definitely referred to as hop, skip & jump in my neck of the woods (which was, in fact.... pretty much in the woods!)


Yes, I actually remember first hearing it called that when I started track (early 80s, also in the woods!). Perhaps it's a Canadian term.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby BCBaroo » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:12 am

gh wrote:when I took up the event in junior high it was most definitely referred to as hop, skip & jump in my neck of the woods (which was, in fact.... pretty much in the woods!)


Ditto.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby gh » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:28 am

it's certain a phrase in common parlance: google search turns up 2.47M hits
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby toyracer » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:22 am

JRM wrote:
gh wrote:when I took up the event in junior high it was most definitely referred to as hop, skip & jump in my neck of the woods (which was, in fact.... pretty much in the woods!)


Yes, I actually remember first hearing it called that when I started track (early 80s, also in the woods!). Perhaps it's a Canadian term.


If it's Canadian it migrated as far South as Jamaica. It was hop, skip & jump when I was introduced to track in the late 1970's.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby lonewolf » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:21 pm

I have heard it called Hop-Skip-Jump but never seriously by an informed person.
I can't even visualize how you could include a "skip" phase. :?
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Marlow » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:59 pm

gh wrote:it's certain a phrase in common parlance: google search turns up 2.47M hits


I got 600K for "hop skip and jump"

I got 1.17M hits for "hop step and jump" which is what I heard in the early 60s.

T&FN transitiioned in 1964 to LJ/TJ from Broad Jump and Hop-Step-Jump.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Per Andersen » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:32 pm

The German term Dreisprung (3 jumps) is best. A bit lame in Swedish & Norwegian "Tresteg" (3 steps).
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Pego » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:41 am

Per Andersen wrote:The German term Dreisprung (3 jumps) is best. A bit lame in Swedish & Norwegian "Tresteg" (3 steps).


In Czech and Slovak it is "trojskok" - "triplejump". I don't believe, it has ever been called anything else.
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby toyracer » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:52 pm

Marlow wrote:
gh wrote:it's certain a phrase in common parlance: google search turns up 2.47M hits


I got 600K for "hop skip and jump"

I got 1.17M hits for "hop step and jump" which is what I heard in the early 60s.


I just tried google:

About 2,650,000 results (0.39 seconds) for hop skip and jump

About 2,620,000 results (0.36 seconds) for hop step and jump
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Marlow » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:57 pm

toyracer wrote:I just tried google:
About 2,650,000 results (0.39 seconds) for hop skip and jump
About 2,620,000 results (0.36 seconds) for hop step and jump

Put the terms in quote marks, i.e., "hop skip and jump" vs. "hope step and jump"
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby mrbowie » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:28 pm

Hey, with the modern run-up, the hop, skip and jump or the hop step and jump could be very descriptive of another event...the HIGH JUMP!
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Marlow » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:24 am

mrbowie wrote:Hey, with the modern run-up, the hop, skip and jump or the hop step and jump could be very descriptive of another event...the HIGH JUMP!

I have asked numerous clinicians about this trend and gotten very vague responses - something about prepping the muscles to jump. Not really buying it, but lemming that I am, I am now teaching the bound-in-to-run approach and it seems to help. :oops:
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Re: USATF Report Refers to Event Called "hop, skip and jump

Postby Grasshopper » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:15 am

Marlow wrote:
mrbowie wrote:Hey, with the modern run-up, the hop, skip and jump or the hop step and jump could be very descriptive of another event...the HIGH JUMP!

I have asked numerous clinicians about this trend and gotten very vague responses - something about prepping the muscles to jump. Not really buying it, but lemming that I am, I am now teaching the bound-in-to-run approach and it seems to help. :oops:

It could be related to the research I remember being mentioned in the USATF Level-2 school about the benefits of "preloading" the legs with Olympic-style lifts or plyometrics before certain sprint exercises. Here's a link to a study that touches on this idea: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16503676
These results suggest that a single set of preloading exercises enhances performance during a lower-body explosive power training session
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