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Postby 26mi235 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:22 am

So far, the only thing running is the Heptathlon. Lazas had PRs in first three events, so looks like getting in to the 6100s. Cato almost made 2.14/7' 0.25 but he and Scantling still tied the meet record of one Aston Eaton while he was on the way to a WR (I think).

1 Kevin Lazas 6.90 7.55m 15.00m 1.99m
Arkansas 24-09.25 49-02.5 6-06.25
JR 3449 (918) (947) (790) (794) 3449 (0) (0) (0)
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2 Japheth Cato 7.08 7.67m 12.13m 2.11m
Wisconsin 25-02 39-09.75 6-11
JR 3351 (854) (977) (614) (906) 3351 (0) (0) (0)
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3 Garrett Scantling 7.07 7.04m 14.12m 2.11m
Georgia 23-01.25 46-04 6-11
SO 3323 (858) (823) (736) (906) 3323 (0) (0) (0)
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4 Johannes Hock 7.03 7.38m 14.97m 1.90m
Texas 24-02.5 49-01.5 6-02.75
FR 3279 (872) (905) (788) (714) 3279 (0) (0) (0)
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5 Zach Ziemek 7.01 7.22m 12.73m 2.05m
Wisconsin 23-08.25 41-09.25 6-08.75
SO 3246 (879) (866) (651) (850) 3246 (0) (0) (0)
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6 Maicel Uibo 7.19 7.36m 13.64m 2.02m
Georgia 24-01.75 44-09 6-07.5
FR 3244 (816) (900) (706) (822) 3244 (0) (0) (0)

To us multis guys (and gals) the title IS about the Hept, sorry I got carried away in my hurrying to watch that I left out Hept. [how can I edit my own title?]
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Re: NCAA Day 1

Postby gh » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:05 pm

if you know how to edit to change body copy, the headline should be changeable at same time (but I did it for you)
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby olorin » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:24 pm

26mi235 wrote:So far, the only thing running is the Heptathlon. Lazas had PRs in first three events, so looks like getting in to the 6100s. Cato almost made 2.14/7' 0.25 but he and Scantling still tied the meet record of one Aston Eaton while he was on the way to a WR (I think).

1 Kevin Lazas 6.90 7.55m 15.00m 1.99m
Arkansas 24-09.25 49-02.5 6-06.25
JR 3449 (918) (947) (790) (794) 3449 (0) (0) (0)
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2 Japheth Cato 7.08 7.67m 12.13m 2.11m
Wisconsin 25-02 39-09.75 6-11
JR 3351 (854) (977) (614) (906) 3351 (0) (0) (0)
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3 Garrett Scantling 7.07 7.04m 14.12m 2.11m
Georgia 23-01.25 46-04 6-11
SO 3323 (858) (823) (736) (906) 3323 (0) (0) (0)
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Potentially, we could have a great competition in day 2 when both Lazas and Cato scoring in the high 61xx or even low 62xx.

60h - Cato is the best hurdler in the field (7.88) whereas Lazas’s PB is only 8.35. The gap between the two equates to roughly 110 points which is slightly higher than Lazas’s lead. So unless Lazas can produce his fourth PB of the competition, Cato is expected to lead after five events.
In third place Scantling should increase his lead against the pack with a PB of 8.15

PV - Both Lazas and Cato are wonderful pole vaulters. Lazas PB is an amazing 5.41(!) but not during the heptathlon. Cato is not far behind with 5.25. If Lazas will pass one height more than Cato he will probably win the competition as he is the better 1000 runner. Scantling with relatively modest PB of 4.90 is likely to lose contact with the two leaders.

1500 - Lazas PB is four seconds better than Cato, while every second worth 10.5 points. If Lazas is in the lead after six events then he will win. Otherwise it will be a great battle in the last event.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby unclezadok » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:43 pm

I keep expecting Inspector Clouseau to run out and tackle Cato.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby olorin » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:58 pm

unclezadok wrote:I keep expecting Inspector Clouseau to run out and tackle Cato.

:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA8QrOAghZ0
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:34 pm

olorin wrote:1500 [1000]- Lazas PB is four seconds better than Cato, while every second worth 10.5 points. If Lazas is in the lead after six events then he will win. Otherwise it will be a great battle in the last event.


There is a video of Arkansas guys running Time Trial 1000s in about 3 heats early season. If I recall correctly Lazas had a 1:26 or even 1:25. Even at the end, it might be that he is ready to bust his old PR. Lazas definitely has the inside track here.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby Marlow » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:42 pm

3 Garrett Scantling Georgia SO 7.07 7.04m (23-01.25) 14.12m (46-4) 2.11m (6-11)


This is blowing me away . . .
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:24 pm

He and Cato are almost identical at the 60/HJ but completely reversed for the LJ/SP. When guys like Lazas and Scantling are improving so steadily it is impressive, particularly because they are doing it across the board, not just in the highly correlated events.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby olorin » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:33 am

Marlow wrote:
3 Garrett Scantling Georgia SO 7.07 7.04m (23-01.25) 14.12m (46-4) 2.11m (6-11)


This is blowing me away . . .


When he finished training with you, how long did you think it would take him to reach ~6000 ?
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby Marlow » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:05 am

olorin wrote:
Marlow wrote:
3 Garrett Scantling Georgia SO 7.07 7.04m (23-01.25) 14.12m (46-4) 2.11m (6-11)

This is blowing me away . . .

When he finished training with you, how long did you think it would take him to reach ~6000 ?

I thought >6000 Dec (~4500 Hep) freshman year and by the time he graduated, having a shot at top 8 at NCAA. Not to jinx him, but he may be on track (and field) for 8K before he graduates. :shock: AS I said at the time, he's an athletic savant. His body was made to do the multis.

edit - he just cleared an 8" PR in the vault with 5.10, 16-8.75. He's looking good for 3rd place overall after the 1000. :D
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:14 pm

Well, Lazas, Cato and Zach Ziemek all made 530//17-4.5 So Lazas leads still by 19 going in to the 1000.

And now Lazas over 5.40 and Ziemek with a close miss then a make. Lazas will have (at least) a 50-point lead. Ziemek will make up ground on several ahead of him.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby Marlow » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:25 pm

26mi235 wrote:Well, Lazas, Cato and Zach Ziemek all made 530//17-4.5 So Lazas leads still by 19 going in to the 1000.

Uh oh, Ziemek is coming on strong!
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby polevaultpower » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:30 pm

Gosh that is pretty good pole vaulting for multi-eventers... or any pole vaulter!
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby Marlow » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:20 pm

1 Kevin Lazas 6175
6.90 7.55m 15.00m 1.99m 8.27 5.40m 2:49.00
Arkansas 24-09.25 49-02.5 6-06.25 17-08.5
JR Team Points: 10 (918) (947) (790) (794) 3449 (915) (1035) (776)
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2 Japheth Cato 6165
7.08 7.67m 12.13m 2.11m 7.95 5.30m 2:45.26
Wisconsin 25-02 39-09.75 6-11 17-04.5
JR Team Points: 8 (854) (977) (614) (906) 3351 (994) (1004) (816)
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3 Garrett Scantling 6017
7.07 7.04m 14.12m 2.11m 8.10 5.10m 2:47.07
Georgia 23-01.25 46-04 6-11 16-08.75
SO Team Points: 6 (858) (823) (736) (906) 3323 (957) (941) (796)

3 over 6000, incl lil GS. :D
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby unclezadok » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:26 pm

Marlow wrote:1 Kevin Lazas 6175
6.90 7.55m 15.00m 1.99m 8.27 5.40m 2:49.00
Arkansas 24-09.25 49-02.5 6-06.25 17-08.5
JR Team Points: 10 (918) (947) (790) (794) 3449 (915) (1035) (776)
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2 Japheth Cato 6165
7.08 7.67m 12.13m 2.11m 7.95 5.30m 2:45.26
Wisconsin 25-02 39-09.75 6-11 17-04.5
JR Team Points: 8 (854) (977) (614) (906) 3351 (994) (1004) (816)
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3 Garrett Scantling 6017
7.07 7.04m 14.12m 2.11m 8.10 5.10m 2:47.07
Georgia 23-01.25 46-04 6-11 16-08.75
SO Team Points: 6 (858) (823) (736) (906) 3323 (957) (941) (796)

3 over 6000, incl lil GS. :D


You were right about Scantling getting over 6000, it's just that he only needed 7 events, not 10. He's improvng so fast it's hard to project what he will do. For one thing, he has much more speed than first appeared. I think that his PR in the 400m is over 51 but he should be under 50 this year. Good javelin too.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby Daisy » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm

They'll all be back next year too :)
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby olorin » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:46 pm

Marlow wrote:I thought >6000 Dec (~4500 Hep) freshman year and by the time he graduated, having a shot at top 8 at NCAA. Not to jinx him, but he may be on track (and field) for 8K before he graduates. :shock: AS I said at the time, he's an athletic savant. His body was made to do the multis.


Not trying to jinx your guy but I think that there is a good chance he will score 8,000 points THIS summer.
This is what he achieved this winter compared with his SBs in 2012 (I include both indoor and outdoor marks for the LJ, HJ, SP and PV)

60 - from 7.13 to 7.01 an improvement of 42 points
LJ - from 6.99 to 7.14 (36 points) an event that he is likely to improve a lot in the near future
SP from 13.59 to 14.26 (36 points) and suggests that the DT will also improve
HJ - from 2.09 to 2.11 (19 points) failure :)
60h - from 8.45 to 8.10 (85 points!)
PV - from 4.70 to 5.10 (122 points!!)
1000 - from 3:00.62 to 2:47.07 (138 points!!)
Heptathlon from 5481 to 6017 (536 points) :shock:

His PB in the decathlon is 7410. A similar improvement in the decathlon will see him very close to 8000:
For example:
11.1 - 7.04 - 14.12 - 2.14 - 50.00 - 14.65 - 40.00 - 5.10 - 58.0 - 4:45
seems a bit conservative at this stage, but will see him score 8001.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him score above 8100
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby gh » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:43 pm

Men Heptathlon
Points 60 LJ SP HJ Day1 60H PV 1000
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1 Kevin Lazas 6.90 7.55m 15.00m 1.99m 8.27 5.40m 2:49.00
Arkansas 24-09.25 49-02.5 6-06.25 17-08.5
JR Team Points: 10 6175 (918) (947) (790) (794) 3449 (915) (1035) (776)
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2 Japheth Cato 7.08 7.67m 12.13m 2.11m 7.95 5.30m 2:45.26
Wisconsin 25-02 39-09.75 6-11 17-04.5
JR Team Points: 8 6165 (854) (977) (614) (906) 3351 (994) (1004) (816)
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3 Garrett Scantling 7.07 7.04m 14.12m 2.11m 8.10 5.10m 2:47.07
Georgia 23-01.25 46-04 6-11 16-08.75
SO Team Points: 6 6017 (858) (823) (736) (906) 3323 (957) (941) (796)
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4 Maicel Uibo 7.19 7.36m 13.64m 2.02m 8.28 5.10m 2:39.72
Georgia 24-01.75 44-09 6-07.5 16-08.75
FR Team Points: 5 5975 (816) (900) (706) (822) 3244 (913) (941) (877)
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5 Zach Ziemek 7.01 7.22m 12.73m 2.05m 8.37 5.40m 2:50.06
Wisconsin 23-08.25 41-09.25 6-08.75 17-08.5
SO Team Points: 4 5937 (879) (866) (651) (850) 3246 (891) (1035) (765)
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6 Johannes Hock 7.03 7.38m 14.97m 1.90m 8.28 4.90m 2:46.62
Texas 24-02.5 49-01.5 6-02.75 16-00.75
FR Team Points: 3 5873 (872) (905) (788) (714) 3279 (913) (880) (801)
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7 Andy Lillejord 6.98 7.33m 12.77m 1.90m 8.40 5.10m 2:44.93
North Dakota St. 24-00.75 41-10.75 6-02.75 16-08.75
JR Team Points: 2 5793 (889) (893) (653) (714) 3149 (884) (941) (819)
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8 Romain Martin 7.14 6.97m 14.12m 1.99m 8.23 4.80m 2:44.14
Texas-Arlington 22-10.5 46-04 6-06.25 15-09
SR Team Points: 1 5772 (833) (807) (736) (794) 3170 (925) (849) (828)
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby Marlow » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:55 pm

olorin wrote:His PB in the decathlon is 5481. A similar improvement in the decathlon will see him above 8000:

Just to clarify what you meant . . . 7481. I do see 8000 as on the horizon. I just can't tell how close that horizon is. HE WILL improve a LOT in the DT and probably the 1500. He needs more speed in the 100 to get where he wants to go, but I really think he's one of those kids that WILL improve a lot with practice.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby odelltrclan » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:01 pm

polevaultpower wrote:Gosh that is pretty good pole vaulting for multi-eventers... or any pole vaulter!


That clearance at 17-8+ was very impressive. Way over the bar. Maybe this guy needs to do this in the open competition as well.
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby olorin » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:21 pm

Marlow wrote:
olorin wrote:His PB in the decathlon is 5481. A similar improvement in the decathlon will see him above 8000:

Just to clarify what you meant . . . 7481. I do see 8000 as on the horizon. I just can't tell how close that horizon is. HE WILL improve a LOT in the DT and probably the 1500. He needs more speed in the 100 to get where he wants to go, but I really think he's one of those kids that WILL improve a lot with practice.

:oops:
This what happen when you use cut and paste too much:
His PB in the decathlon is 7410. I still believe that he will score more than 8000 points this summer.
BTW - where he wants to go?
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby Marlow » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:25 pm

olorin wrote:BTW - where he wants to go?

?
Usually . . . crazy . . . :D
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby olorin » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:26 pm

odelltrclan wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Gosh that is pretty good pole vaulting for multi-eventers... or any pole vaulter!


That clearance at 17-8+ was very impressive. Way over the bar. Maybe this guy needs to do this in the open competition as well.

"this guy" as Lazas or Ziemek?
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Re: NCAA mHept: Lazas leads day 1

Postby odelltrclan » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:56 pm

olorin wrote:
odelltrclan wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Gosh that is pretty good pole vaulting for multi-eventers... or any pole vaulter!


That clearance at 17-8+ was very impressive. Way over the bar. Maybe this guy needs to do this in the open competition as well.

"this guy" as Lazas or Ziemek?


Lazas
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