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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby aaronk » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:50 am

This is just to bring my earlier question back into play.
About Annie Rhodes (NB PV winner) saying in an interview that she'd vaulted 13-11 and 1/2 the Thursday before NB (Mar 7)....in Texas.

Know the details?

Was it a practice vault?
Was it in a meet?
Indoors?
Outdoors?

Anyone from Texas know of this?
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:10 am

Ask on PoleVaultPower, although Becca might show up here at some point (she does have other distractions!).
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby gm » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:31 pm

aaronk wrote:This is just to bring my earlier question back into play.
About Annie Rhodes (NB PV winner) saying in an interview that she'd vaulted 13-11 and 1/2 the Thursday before NB (Mar 7)....in Texas.

Know the details?

Was it a practice vault?
Was it in a meet?
Indoors?
Outdoors?

Anyone from Texas know of this?


Pioneer Relays at Boswell. Definitely outdoors.
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby aaronk » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:51 am

Question regarding Kailee Sawyer of Laurel Creek, who finished 2nd to S Southerland in that 800 with time of 2:05.94.

In the updated US List out today, she's not listed in the 800.
The girl who finished BEHIND her is....with her time of 2:06.67.
And of course, Southerland is on the list.

Why isn't Sawyer on the list??
Is she not an American??
(Have no idea where Laurel Creek is!!)
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby aaronk » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:09 pm

Answered my own question....about K Sawyer!!

She's Canadian, and is pretty young, born in 1997!!

Looks like the long history of strong female Canadian 800 running is going to continue!!
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby CookyMonzta » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:13 pm

26mi235 wrote:2:03.59 is very good, but its place on the indoor list is overstated by the relatively thin nature of indoor racing. It is nowhere close to KG's 2:00.0x mark and more than a second slower than third at the NCAA meet where athletes were running three races not one, and championship running might have constrained the marks

You forgot one thing: Ajee Wilson ran 2:04.13 indoors last year, and she graduated from HS with a 2:00.91 outdoor performance. Southerland is as fast a 400 runner as Wilson was in her senior year. Once more, she hit the 600 mark in 1:30.9, which would rank her 2nd on the indoor list. She almost certainly would have broken the 600 HSR now, if she were to have run it in a big race late in the season.

For that, I'd say Southerland's 2:03.59 on Sunday, its place on the indoor list (behind none other than Mary Decker), and her potential for 1:59.xx outdoors, are actually understated and underestimated.
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby LadyT » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:42 am

CookyMonzta wrote:
26mi235 wrote:2:03.59 is very good, but its place on the indoor list is overstated by the relatively thin nature of indoor racing. It is nowhere close to KG's 2:00.0x mark and more than a second slower than third at the NCAA meet where athletes were running three races not one, and championship running might have constrained the marks

You forgot one thing: Ajee Wilson ran 2:04.13 indoors last year, and she graduated from HS with a 2:00.91 outdoor performance. Southerland is as fast a 400 runner as Wilson was in her senior year. Once more, she hit the 600 mark in 1:30.9, which would rank her 2nd on the indoor list. She almost certainly would have broken the 600 HSR now, if she were to have run it in a big race late in the season.

For that, I'd say Southerland's 2:03.59 on Sunday, its place on the indoor list (behind none other than Mary Decker), and her potential for 1:59.xx outdoors, are actually understated and underestimated.


The 1:59 is overreaching a bit. Southerland is good, but sub 2 is a lot harder than many assume. Ajee ran 2:04 last winter, but was capable of faster. She had already run 2:02 the summer before that. And what is Southerland's 400m PR? Ajee ran 54 in the open quarter and several 52 splits.
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby CookyMonzta » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:50 pm

LadyT wrote:
CookyMonzta wrote:
26mi235 wrote:2:03.59 is very good, but its place on the indoor list is overstated by the relatively thin nature of indoor racing. It is nowhere close to KG's 2:00.0x mark and more than a second slower than third at the NCAA meet where athletes were running three races not one, and championship running might have constrained the marks

You forgot one thing: Ajee Wilson ran 2:04.13 indoors last year, and she graduated from HS with a 2:00.91 outdoor performance. Southerland is as fast a 400 runner as Wilson was in her senior year. Once more, she hit the 600 mark in 1:30.9, which would rank her 2nd on the indoor list. She almost certainly would have broken the 600 HSR now, if she were to have run it in a big race late in the season.

For that, I'd say Southerland's 2:03.59 on Sunday, its place on the indoor list (behind none other than Mary Decker), and her potential for 1:59.xx outdoors, are actually understated and underestimated.


The 1:59 is overreaching a bit. Southerland is good, but sub 2 is a lot harder than many assume. Ajee ran 2:04 last winter, but was capable of faster. She had already run 2:02 the summer before that. And what is Southerland's 400m PR? Ajee ran 54 in the open quarter and several 52 splits.

I don't know what Sabrina's open 400 PR is, but she anchored a 55.0 at the New York City PSAL Champs late last month, after running 2:48.24 for the 1,000 and 4:39.55 for the 1,500 that same day.
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby aaronk » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:56 pm

FYI, according to the announcer, Sabrina's opening 400 was 58.6!!
That means her splits were approx 58.6 and 65!!
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby Dutra5 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:28 pm

aaronk wrote:FYI, according to the announcer, Sabrina's opening 400 was 58.6!!
That means her splits were approx 58.6 and 65!!


I haven't seen any splits but I think that split was wrong. Looked more like 59.2....59.3. Still very fast.
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby CookyMonzta » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:39 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
aaronk wrote:FYI, according to the announcer, Sabrina's opening 400 was 58.6!!
That means her splits were approx 58.6 and 65!!


I haven't seen any splits but I think that split was wrong. Looked more like 59.2....59.3. Still very fast.

I was there. I had 29.3, 59.8 and 1:30.9.

There are more videoclips here:

http://www.dyestat.com/gprofile.php?do=videos&mgroup_event_id=1164&mgroup_id=44531&year=2013

and here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/newbalancenationals

Here's the girls' 800 elite section:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzQXeGGNGlQ
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Re: New Balance HS Indoor Nationals

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:17 am

CookyMonzta wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:
aaronk wrote:FYI, according to the announcer, Sabrina's opening 400 was 58.6!!
That means her splits were approx 58.6 and 65!!


I haven't seen any splits but I think that split was wrong. Looked more like 59.2....59.3. Still very fast.

I was there. I had 29.3, 59.8 and 1:30.9.

There are more videoclips here:


Your 400 split makes more sense. The announcer at the meet, it appeared, mixed up the lines (or whoever was giving it to him) as he started to give the split as Southerland approached the 400m line. I think the sub 59 came from the relay zone line.
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