Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain


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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:20 pm

could you give me the link for youtube 2 mile...

my friend, the candian was the guy providing me, the reiser information
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby KevinM » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:24 pm

az2004 wrote:could you give me the link for youtube 2 mile...

my friend, the candian was the guy providing me, the reiser information


Just google the relevant terms - it comes up immediately.
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:32 pm

mens mile video up there, i found that one thanks for yhe help

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you ... FORM=VIRE3
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:41 pm

espn feed of mile race

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you ... FORM=VIRE3

commentary with it not above which was a crowd feed
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:56 pm

kevin m thanks for yor advice

mu buddy in calgary thanks you

here's the mens 2 mile not espn feed though

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you ... FORM=VIRE3
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:16 pm

if anyone finds the espn feeds, please post them, so far we have only the mens mile
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:24 pm

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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby aaronk » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:53 pm

az2004 wrote:womens 1 mile espn feed

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250015 ... lrose-2013


WOW!!!!

What a GREAT race!!
At one point (1000-1200 mark??), it looked like Cain was in danger of getting boxed in.
But she then used "European" tactics, and pretty much did what was necessary, seeming to throw another runner a bit off stride......that runner put her arm on Cain's back, seeming to push her a bit......but she got out of it, and from there on, she just chased Reid!!

Wonder what would have happened if Cain had gone with Reid when she took the lead.
Might have taken her, but Reid's in GREAT shape, so maybe not!

Reid is so classy, with her post-race attitude!!
Seems to really LIKE Mary....and vice versa!!

Looks like Cain's last 400 (440?) was in the 64's!!
So her 440's were about 67, 68, 69, and 64??
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:58 pm

i'm looking for the mens 2 mile espn feed, so far i cannot find it

i need to see the race again to see ea tly what happend there


reid kick ncaa 2011 at here best, she's tough, have to doucle check 100-1200

i did see cain ankle ND HASEY ancke collide..

neeed to check the other contact


think it did not affect rACE THOUGH

i had lap 400 in 68 67 69 64



clearly was d'agostino who arm clipped cain and cain ankle then went forward and slight contact with hasay that was at 3:32 mark, stop and start race and you cN SEE IT HAPPEN


no harm no foul

the go thru 1200 in 3:24, get pst ythre turn before 1300 at 3:32, agostino raises arm and thouches cain shoulder, cain is somewhat boxed, i agree by coburn and reid and infeld and hasay, this is where reid gets the gap on cain,

cain follows coburn to get out of box
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:06 pm

[quote="az2004"]i'm looking for the mens 2 mile espn feed, so far i cannot find it

i need to see the race again to see ea tly what happend there


reid kick ncaa 2011 at here best, she's tough, have to doucle check 100-1200

i did see cain ankle ND HASEY ancke collide..

neeed to check the other contact


think it did not affect rACE THOUGH

i had lap 400 in 68 67 69 64



clearly was d'agostino who arm clipped cain and cain ankle then went forward and slight contact with hasay that was at 3:32 mark, stop and start race and you cN SEE IT HAPPEN


no harm no foul

the go thru 1200 in 3:24, get pst ythre turn before 1300 at 3:32, agostino raises arm and thouches cain shoulder, cain is somewhat boxed, i agree by coburn and reid and D'SGostino and hasay, this is where reid gets the gap on cain,

cain follows coburn to get out of box


reid has the gap by then cain was not gonna cathc here
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby aaronk » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:02 pm

This might deserve a separate thread, but here's a bit of trivia about T&FN's covers.
I bring this up because Mary Cain made the March cover....and I firmly believe she deserves to get the cover AGAIN for the April issue!!

By the time March went to press, I'm guessing (Haven't gotten my copy yet!! Tomorrow??) they based their choice on Cain's FIRST indoor race, her 9:02 Seattle race.

By the time April goes to press (Soon??), Cain will have broken SIX MORE records......not counting the JR records....just the 2-1500's, the 2-one miles, and the legit 3K/2 mile.

She being the talk of the indoor season, despite all the other great results, I think she deserves a second straight cover.

BTW, there IS a precedent for that.
In 1996, Michael Johnson made both the September and October covers....plus the December cover....making it 3 out of 4 in a row!!!

She would be the 2nd HS'er to get that honor.....Alan Webb being on the cover twice in 2001....but about 5 months apart!!
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:40 am

rewatched the contact between d'agostino, cain and hasey again

d'agostino and hasey have cain boxed, front and back

reid is accelerating, as the 3 sort themselves out

reid and cain get to 1400 at full speed at 3:56 and 3:57


both do the final 200 in 29
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:42 am

ahoure might be my next cover, sub 7, and her indoor season has been special too
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby dj » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:34 am

aaronk wrote:\By the time March went to press, I'm guessing (Haven't gotten my copy yet!! Tomorrow??) they based their choice on Cain's FIRST indoor race, her 9:02 Seattle race.


Hazardous guess. The cover is from her second race of the year, the 4:32.78 HSR at the New Balance Games on Jan. 26.
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby az2004 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:28 am

dj wrote:
aaronk wrote:\By the time March went to press, I'm guessing (Haven't gotten my copy yet!! Tomorrow??) they based their choice on Cain's FIRST indoor race, her 9:02 Seattle race.


Hazardous guess. The cover is from her second race of the year, the 4:32.78 HSR at the New Balance Games on Jan. 26.




6.99 by ahoure in birming ham beating safp is a hard one to ignore

7.03

7.06

7.07

7.08

7.09

top 6 times add

7.11

7.17



soof the top 24 marks, ahoure has 9
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby aaronk » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:54 pm

I noticed (front page) that Edward Cheserek was chosen Running Times Athlete of the Week, for his taking down of Gerry Lindgren's 1964 indoor records in the 3K and 2 mile.....and for announcing he'll be attending UO!!

Good for him!!

However, did RT overlook Mary Cain shattering HER OWN HSR's in the 1500 and mile, or Lagat getting the AR in the indoor two mile, or the two great 600's, or, or , or.......??

Besides, let's compare Cheserek to Lindgren a bit.

Cheserek, US via Kenya.
Lindgren, US born.

Cheserek, age 19 when he broke the records.
Lindgren, age 17 when he ran his 3 indoor two mile races!!

Lindgren's times were far better than any OUTdoor times run at that time.
Verzbicas has an outdoor HSR which is about 10 seconds faster than Cheserek!!

While Cheserek is deserving of many plaudits, I don't think he can compare with the HISTORIC Gerry Lindgren!!!
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Re: Duel at the Armory: Hasay vs Cain

Postby Dutra5 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:20 pm

Apparently we've just heard a pretty good argument for Running Times to have chosen Gerry Lindgren as it's athlete of the week.
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