preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]


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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby aaronk » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:51 am

Question to az2004:

Why do you say she might do the two British meets this summer??
Why those two, and not some others (Zurich, Bislett, Golden Gala, etc.)??

I DO hope she goes to Europe this summer!
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby az2004 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:17 am

for me i prefer she do lower key euro races than the big ones you mentioned

john henwood is her coach in nyc, he would know whats planned...

coaching@johnhenwood.com PH 212 731 9149 that's direct from his website

for outdoors, the 2 usa based diamond league meets

end may is nyc 1500 avaialble

early june is prefontaine in eugene 800 3000 5000 available

june 30 birmingham 1500 available

july 26-27 london 800 3000 5000

desmoines trials mid june do 1500 trials

my question concerns 800 or 3000 in diamond leage meets

i'd try doing 800 for the speed work to sharpen her 1500

in listening to john henwood, seems 1500 is more the key now, but she may grow into a great 5k type

i'd see 2014 world junior in eugene and doing both 800 and 1500

JFK TO HEATROW/BIRMINGHAM are easy flights. as she lives in bronxville, affluent suburb of nyc

i have a friend who lives in bronxville and home is worth 1.5 million
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby KevinM » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:40 am

az2004 wrote:coaching@johnhenwood.com PH 212 731 9149 that's direct from his website


Jesus. You two are weirding me out.
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby az2004 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:05 pm

i was looking at info for henwood

got the info from his website...

seems he has a number of lower level athletes

seems salazar picked him as the hands on day to day guy with cain

27:45 10k 13:30 5k sub 4 mile

2004 10k olympian for new zealand

that's a very decent resume
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby az2004 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:40 pm

i asked john henwood about possible post millrose plans..

he responded..

Only Alberto can give out answers to those questions. But I know for sure that she won't be flying out of the country for Diamond league meets during school.




Thanks

John
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby Dutra5 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:01 pm

KevinM wrote:
az2004 wrote:coaching@johnhenwood.com PH 212 731 9149 that's direct from his website


Jesus. You two are weirding me out.


I can see a phone call or two in John Henwood's future should the kid run a poor race somewhere along the line. :lol:
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby aaronk » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:26 pm

I've followed T&F for over 50 years, and had read every word of T&FN, but up till he started coaching Cain, I'd never heard of Henwood!!

As to Mary running a 5K or 10K this spring outdoors, if not at Mt SAC or Stanford, she could do what Cayla Hatton did last year....hop into a college men's 10K in a small college meet somewhere!!
Her time of 33:17 is listed in Jack Shepard's HS Track this year as the 2nd fastest HS girls 10K ever.
If Shepard sees that mixed race, collegiate race as okay for record purposes, the same would go for Cain.
That way, she wouldn't have to travel very far....just go to the nearest college and convince the people there to let her into the race!!
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby az2004 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:48 am

2004 olympics, henwood did run the 10k

and 2:15 in new york city is good, think he was 13th

because he was a kiwi i didn't know of him

that;s why i searched his name once it became known to me

article on front page hasay says cain should run in college

cain is running well above that level, so using college seems a mistake to me

i think ajee wilson and cain are the model for the new elite model

hasay never had the base speed either of those 2 girls currently have

hasay at 5k or 10k might well be a nice runner

cain will do college, but i suspect she will not run in college
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby Dutra5 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:54 pm

I don't think we'll see Cain in a 5000m and certainly not a 10,000m race this year.
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile [2 HSRs for Cain]

Postby az2004 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:06 pm

i fully agree, 5k and 10k are way in her future

i see the 2014 eugene junior meet as her primary event

with the 1500 her main event

she did 2.03 800 last year, and if she doubles, i see it more in the 800 than the 3000

i think baxter and hasay can be real good 10k types
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Re: preview for boston 2 mile

Postby az2004 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:20 pm

26mi235 wrote:
az2004 wrote:here;s the 9:54 cuffe ran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05yqWMYIdnQ

interesting cuffe anchor was a 73, while cain can go mid 60 range, cain has a huge edge with her kick as she can nail 8 seconds or so

im smelling a good chance to get the 2 mile mark


Cuffe ran very even pace in that race, which is the optimal strategy for minimizing time. If Cain runs even pace to her maximum effort, she is not going to suddenly go 8 seconds faster on her last lap. At that point she was running for time, not racing for place, where she would have a faster finish (but slower overall time). [Cuffee's last 440 yards was 73.41, about 73.0 for 400m]



missed this from 26m235 the girls from illinois, i dont know where she went to school, pushed the pace very early, helping cuffe get a hotpace

kayla beattie i see went to iowa but redshirted 2012, and i have not seen a 2013 result for her

i know waverly neer is at columbia

and wesley frazier will go to duke
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