Marlow wrote:As an aside, I think Baxter won't touch Cain in track. XC yes, track, no.
Even if they compete in 5000?
Mary has been compared (by others, not me!!!!) to another Mary.....Decker, by name!!Which is apt, IMHO, because I believe Mary (Cain, that is!!) has unlimited potential at EVERY distance from 800 to 10,000 meters!!!
Was this her Astrodome (?) mark made on a super-sized indoor track of non-standard configuration? I do not remember much about that race, but retain the memory that she was denied a WR because of the conditions. I remember the time as about 4:17.
Yes, she ran 4:17+ indoors, but..... the 4:16.71 was at the Weltklasse in Zurich on August 21, 1985. Second and third in that Zurich race were..... Maricica Puica.......4:17.33 Zola Budd............ 4:17.57.
Yep, that was the race that Budd, then 19, ran her fastest mile!! Quite a mile race, eh??
we have some very young girls who are very good, 3 years younger than cain is daesha rogers.
rogers ran on her schools 3:43 relay, ran a 2:07 for 800, ran a 4:54 mile, got 2nd in state at 3 mile cross country, also won one of the states big cross country meet with one shoe on one shoe off she lost it in the first 50 meters of the 3 mile race. in the 800 she goes out in 58-60 and holds on, meaning she has not learned the advantages of even pacing yet.
rogers was born in 1999 and will graduate high school in 2017
so sarah baxter, mary cain, daesha rogers all amazing young talents, i hope they pan out.
I suspect this 3000m by Mary Cain was just the hors d'ourves to her season. That doesn't look right. You know, a little snack thing before the season, like a little meatball or cheese wedge. Of course it was a very fast meatball.
lionelp1 wrote:Hope the overcooked hyperbole about a 16 year old does not lead to one of you posters predicting a Olympic/World gold medal... just yet.
Funny you should say that!! As a comment on T&FN Facebook page, I said she COULD (as in MIGHT!!) run between 8:38 and 8:48 for the 3K, and between 9:10 and 9:20 for the 2 mile!! In Boston, I mean!
I was around in 1964 when Gerry Lindgren had his phenomenal indoor (AND outdoor!) season. You remember?? Two miles indoors in 9:00.0, then down to 8:46.0, finally down to 8:40.0. The latter two were against big name runners, Gaston Roelants and Ron Clarke. He went on to make the Olympic team that year in the 10K.
Why can't Mary Cain follow the same path? She's UBER-talented, has a great coach, and is super-motivated to run fast times!! I think that 9:02 is just the beginning, perhaps akin to Lindgren's 9:00.0.
BTW, interesting to note that Tirunish Dibaba is entered in that two mile!! Dibaba doesn't stand a chance against Cain!! (I was JOKING!!!)
But I DO think Mary can run what I said, above!! THIS year!! If she does, she'll be in the mix for a 1500 or 5K WC slot!! Medals?? That's a whole other matter!! (Lindgren, with a sprained ankle, finished 9th in that OG 10K!!)
FANTASTIC!!!! Mary is going after the High School Record in the 1 mile this Saturday in the Armory!! (front page article) I just called the Armory, and left a message on their Facebook page asking them to PLEASE time the runners at the 1500 meter mark, thus giving Mary the chance to get BOTH records, just as Alan Webb got both in 2001. (He actually has FOUR records, as he was also timed enroute in his outdoor race!!)
I KNEW Mary's desire to race for time, for RECORDS, wasn't going to be derailed by going with Salazar. Thank you, Alberto, for letting Mary be Mary!!
In the next two weeks, Mary could get FOUR High School Records, since the Boston people ARE going to time the runners at the 3000 meter mark enroute to the 2 mile!! That's been substantiated!
aaronk wrote:FANTASTIC!!!!! Mary is going after the HSR in the 1 mile, 1500m, 3000m and 2 mile!!! That's been substantiated!!
Possibly SIX if we can get them to time at 1000m and 3200m marks!?!?!?
You forgot to put THIS ( ) after your remark!! First of all, it has NOT been substantiated YET that the Armory will be timing them at the 1500 mark enroute!! I hope they do, but I don't know if they will.....yet.
Second, even I, maybe Mary's biggest supporter for her to chase records, do NOT believe she would stand a chance to get SIX records.....or five!! (I DO believe she can get the 1000 meter HSR, but NOT in this 1 mile race!! She'd have to run a 1000 meter race to get that record.)
They WILL be timing at the 3K enroute to the 2 mile at Boston, so ASSUMING she runs close to what she ran in Seattle, or even faster, she WILL get BOTH records!!
IF...IF the Armory times the runners at the 1500 mark enroute, Mary has an almost 100% chance to get BOTH records. And she won't even have to come close to her outdoor mark. She could run, say, 4:16 at the 1500 relatively comfortably, and finish in 17 seconds for a 4:33 mile (NOT 1600!!). If she runs under 4:13 at the 1500, she could go sub-4:30 in the mile!!
However, the 1000 mark ENROUTE to, say a 4:12 1500, would be about 2:48, much slower than Sarah Bowman's 2:43.40 HSR. BTW, Bowman herself will be in this race!!! As for the 1600 or 3200, those should be ABOLISHED!!! I don't give a rat's ass if they time the runners there!!!