T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams


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Re: T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams

Postby gh » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:01 pm

because as it says at the top of the page "World Records are as ratified by the IAAF" (just as say about American Records and USATF).

We don't presume to usurp the role of those who are the "official" word on such things. When it comes to all-time lists, we're free to craft them as we see fit.
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Re: T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams

Postby highjumpfan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:10 pm

gh wrote:because as it says at the top of the page "World Records are as ratified by the IAAF" (just as say about American Records and USATF).

We don't presume to usurp the role of those who are the "official" word on such things. When it comes to all-time lists, we're free to craft them as we see fit.


Not to push the point too much, but in other instances ie: Randy Barnes and FloJo the lists do make a clear reference to the fact that T&FN does not consider these the real records despite iaaf ratification and then proceeds to list what the best other mark is. I'm a fan of consistency.
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Re: T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams

Postby bushop » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:48 pm

Welcome to the New Zealand gun show...
Val Adams photo
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Re: T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams

Postby kuha » Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:07 pm

gh wrote:mump is also apparently unaware of the fact that T&FN stats don't include marks from the Chinese National Games of '93 and '97 (the two with obvious "irregularities").

(see our all-time lists elsewhere on the site, with the Chinese marks given the heave-ho)


Hadn't noticed that till I read it here. Bravo--a bold but entirely logical decision that makes any further "discussion" of the matter entirely beside the point.
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Re: T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams

Postby pickle47 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:16 pm

I would feel a lot more comfortable with deleting whole sets of marks from lists if you could posit a concrete reason for doing so, other than they were "irregular". I don't disagree on the irregular nature of most of the marks, but I don't believe anyone has ever been able to legitimately charge the Chinese with any illegal activities or use of contraband.
More along the lines of a stinky meter: Smells bad, worse, worse, worse...okay, THAT one just smells way too bad, so out it goes.
With former Eastern Bloc-PED using/admitting athletes practically falling out of trees nowadays, there are a whole lot of other marks that could more reasonably be stricken from the unofficial books, donchathink?
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Re: T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams

Postby Tuariki » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:13 am

Valerie sets new NZ and Oceania indoor record with 20.75 in Auckland. Cleopatra Borel-Brown was second with 17.13
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Re: T&FN's Women's AOY..... Valerie Adams

Postby deuch » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:36 am

Tuariki wrote:Valerie sets new NZ and Oceania indoor record with 20.75 in Auckland. Cleopatra Borel-Brown was second with 17.13

A good throw but didnt she throw further indoors last year, at Zurich.
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