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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Olli » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:49 pm

mump boy wrote:Mary Decker is just vile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT0otatX6Wg


Hmm, one can understand her disappointment and bitterness, but it is of course another thing to demand that owing to her inadvertent move Budd should have been disqualified and the entire race been run anew.

This raises the question: what do the rules actually say? Can races be rerun in some conditions? I think I vaguely remember that women's 100m hurdles were rerun in some (???) games, but one would think it is out of question in distance running.

When one comes to think about it, Gammoudi might have been equally justified to demand that the Munich 10000m be rerun and Viren be disqualified. (The falling Viren inadvertently tripped Gammoudi, who therefore lost his chances.)
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby eldanielfire » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:09 am

Olli wrote:
mump boy wrote:Mary Decker is just vile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT0otatX6Wg


Hmm, one can understand her disappointment and bitterness, but it is of course another thing to demand that owing to her inadvertent move Budd should have been disqualified and the entire race been run anew.


If Decker wasn't a proven cheat and such an unpleasant person people would be more sympathetic. Morgan Uceny has twice now been a million times classier despite her complete lack of luck in 2 Championships.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby mump boy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:33 am

She admits herself that she would have been unable to take part in a re-run so what purpose would it have achieved ??

Accidents happen during races, it doesn't have to be anyone specifics fault, nobody pushed her or purposefully tripped her and to still be so bitter 8 years later would just be sad if she wasn't so nasty about it.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Flumpy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:58 am

Especially considering who she is taking her frustaration out on. Zola was 17 years old at the time and ended up in 7th (I think). She paid just as big a price for the incident as Decker did.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby mump boy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:51 am

3 Votes


45th

Herb Elliot 1500m 60 33 points

44th

Kevin Young 400mh 92 35 points

42nd

Mens 10k 2000 Geb v Tergat 37 points
Derek Redmond 400m 92 37 points

40th

Carl Lewis 4 golds 84 41 points
Paavo Nurmi 1500/5k double 24 41 points

39th

Fernanda v Wang 10k 96 44 points

38th

Daley Thompson Dec 84 46 points
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Pego » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:53 am

Budd should have been disqualified


I saw that race live and then umpteen times in rerun, regular speed, slow-mo... and I just cannot see where Budd fouled. She was already established inside, she was ahead of Decker. I would not blame anybody, but to me, Decker was clearly more responsible than Budd.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Olli » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:59 am

Pego wrote:
Olli wrote:Budd should have been disqualified


Please don't quote me as if that were MY opinion, when I meant the opposite! Did I write that unclearly???
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Pego » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:26 am

Olli wrote:
Pego wrote:
Olli wrote:Budd should have been disqualified


Please don't quote me as if that were MY opinion, when I meant the opposite! Did I write that unclearly???


Sorry, I missread your post and took that phrase out of context. I removed your name from that citation.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby lonewolf » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:30 am

Pego wrote:[I saw that race umpteen times in rerun, regular speed, slow-mo... and I just cannot see where Budd fouled. She was already established inside, she was ahead of Decker. I would not blame anybody, but to me, Decker was clearly more responsible than Budd.


That has always been my opinion also.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby mump boy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:07 am

There's only 1 person in history who thinks any different :roll:
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby eldanielfire » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:25 pm

mump boy wrote:There's only 1 person in history who thinks any different :roll:


I think there are/were a lot of americans who think it was Budds fault. To be honest I grew up somehow thinking it was Budd, almost every British recap is hardly supportive of Zola Budd because they all want to concentrate at what a CONTROVERSY it was and rarely point out that this 17 year old girl was innocent in an accident. Often they leave it as if the case was still open to debate.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Rog » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:10 pm

The Decker-Budd thing in 84 is kept alive because it makes a good news story. It's hype. Athletically it wasn't a highlight of the 84 Games.

As for Derek Redmond - let me just say :roll:
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby mump boy » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:28 am

I chose Derek Redmond and i don't care who knows it, it's a perfect Olympic moment and makes me cry every time i see it :cry: :cry: :D
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Daisy » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:41 am

I voted for the following three.
mump boy wrote:3 Votes
44th Kevin Young 400mh 92 35 points
40th Carl Lewis 4 golds 84 41 points
38th Daley Thompson Dec 84 46 points

Young as it was such a remarkable WR. Almost like men against boys with that huge stride length.

I was in the stadium the night that Lewis won his 4th. I didn't think he had a chance, so it was amazing to see him pull it out of the bag. Also impressive to see all the flashes go off in the stands every time he jumped.

Thompson was the epitome of a competitor, and the LA decathlon really summed him up. Specifically, when Hingsen had a good lead in the discus and Thompson pulled out a huge throw on his third effort.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby odelltrclan » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:29 am

Mump, that Redmond moment is a favorite of mine though I did not put it on the list. Too many purists on these boards balk at that, but, there aren't many moments that can bring a tear to your eye like that! And given some of the other moments and reasons listed, who can complain about putting that on here?

Like Daisy, I also had Kevin Young. That was such a shocker, first and only sub 47 and is standing the test of time. Kevin Young chasing the all time great Moses and doing it on the grandest of stages!

Also had Carl Lewis. They kept hyping how he was going to try and match the great Jesse Owen's so I was glued to the TV wondering if he could do it. Some of those early moments from our younger years stick with us forever!
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Daisy » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:38 am

odelltrclan wrote:Also had Carl Lewis. They kept hyping how he was going to try and match the great Jesse Owen's so I was glued to the TV wondering if he could do it. Some of those early moments from our younger years stick with us forever!

I should read more carefully. I had voted for Lewis' 4 golds in the LJ, not 4 golds in one Olympics.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Pego » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:02 am

Daisy wrote:
odelltrclan wrote:Also had Carl Lewis. They kept hyping how he was going to try and match the great Jesse Owen's so I was glued to the TV wondering if he could do it. Some of those early moments from our younger years stick with us forever!

I should read more carefully. I had voted for Lewis' 4 golds in the LJ, not 4 golds in one Olympics.


I am sure there will be quite a few of these kinds of overlap.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Daisy » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:11 am

Pego wrote:I am sure there will be quite a few of these kinds of overlap.

Right, Same with Viren, I had forgotten about his fall but that was amazing that he got up and still won.

With regard to Lewis, he had to be on the list, and the longevity is what I find the most remarkable about him. If I had been alive to see Oerter i'm sure he would have been on my list too.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby bobguild76 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:05 am

mump boy wrote:I chose Derek Redmond and i don't care who knows it, it's a perfect Olympic moment and makes me cry every time i see it :cry: :cry: :D

Same here, I cry every time I watch the video. I didn't have Redmond on my list, but I should have.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby odelltrclan » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:05 am

Daisy wrote:
odelltrclan wrote:Also had Carl Lewis. They kept hyping how he was going to try and match the great Jesse Owen's so I was glued to the TV wondering if he could do it. Some of those early moments from our younger years stick with us forever!

I should read more carefully. I had voted for Lewis' 4 golds in the LJ, not 4 golds in one Olympics.


Well, his 4th gold in 1996 was on my honorable mention list, but did not go into my top 20. I had Al Oerter because he was the first to do it (You could say the same about Owens as well I suppose). Certainly 4 golds in consecutive Olympics in any event has to be considered among the greatest accomplishments in all of track & field. As great an athlete as Usain Bolt is, he is only half way there. For an event like the LJ, it truly is amazing.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Daisy » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:45 pm

nevetsllim wrote:
Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.


Me too. Are you sure it just got two votes, Mump? Granted it was just 19th in my list.

I read about it first in Wallechinsky's Olympic encyclopedia and it sounded like a scintillating race with how he described Kiprotich bolting through 200m in 23.0 (!) and Ereng yelling at him to slow down!

The 800m is by far my favourite track event (have a few more 800m races in my top-20) because of the diversity of tactics between the renowned front-runners (Kiprotich, Barbosa, Gray) and those who like to run even paced (Ereng).

Interview with Ereng on the front page right now.
“My intention was not to win the race. At the beginning of the year, I set four goals for myself; the first goal was to win the NCAA Championship, the second goal was to make the Olympic team, my third goal was to reach the Olympic final, be a finalist and my fourth goal was to be a medalist,” Ereng said. “When I went into the final, I knew there was a possibility of getting a medal; my goal was to run a specific time every 200 meters of the race. That was the commitment which allowed me to win.”
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby mump boy » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:00 am

http://www.utepprospector.com/sports/er ... RI09JhOE4Y

I'm a bit in love with Paul Ereng, such a class act

Do you remember when he entered the '89 world indoors but KEN didn't send a team so he had to run in his own vest, he then won, set WR and won the award for the most handsome man at the champs :D
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby HopStepJump » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:48 pm

52nd

w HJ Tia v Blanka '08 15 point

This was one of mine. A really good example of an athlete having a great day at the right time. It was cool to see Belgium win this plus a relay medal in Beijing. Vlasic probably wins the gold 9 times out of 10. Such a shame that she was hurt last year.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby HopStepJump » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:16 pm

42nd

Mens 10k 2000 Geb v Tergat 37 points

One of mine as well. This capped off a fantastic night of track at the stadium- Michael Johnson, Cathy Freeman, Anier Garcia, Stacy Dragila all competed and won that night. Obviously, the stretch run between Geb and Tergat was thrilling, but it was the buildup that really enhanced it. Growing up, I never really appreciated the distance races, mainly because American TV would generally only show the last couple of laps for anything over 1500. Getting to see the tactics and the surges is a huge part of appreciating the whole event, and I feel extraordinarily fortunate to have seen Geb work his magic twice (I also was at the Atlanta 10k).
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby mump boy » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:56 pm

I found this great interview with Mr Ereng :D

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/archiv ... _Ereng.pdf
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby nevetsllim » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:14 am

HopStepJump wrote:52nd

w HJ Tia v Blanka '08 15 point

This was one of mine. A really good example of an athlete having a great day at the right time. It was cool to see Belgium win this plus a relay medal in Beijing. Vlasic probably wins the gold 9 times out of 10. Such a shame that she was hurt last year.


This was one of mine too. I thought if anyone was going to beat Vlasic, it might have been Slesarenko (who came perilously close to exiting in qualifying) but Hellebaut raised her game fabulously and I think she improved her season's best by 5cm in the final. Given the way she won the 2006 European Champs and the pentathlon at the 2008 World Indoors, she definitely had the big-time credentials but quite frankly I didn't see Vlasic losing to anyone.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Per Andersen » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:22 pm

nevetsllim wrote: she definitely had the big-time credentials but quite frankly I didn't see Vlasic losing to anyone.

But a first attempt clearance at 2.05 can do wonders.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Flumpy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:36 am

mump boy wrote:3 Votes

42nd

Mens 10k 2000 Geb v Tergat 37 points
Derek Redmond 400m 92 37 points


The first is one of those races, that even though you know the result you still thuink it could change each time you watch it. There was smaller gap between 1st and 2nd in the 10k than the 100m :shock:

I don't care what anyone says Derek Redmond in 1992 is one of the quintessential Olympic moments. He didn't want to end his Olympic campaign in a heap on the floor so decided to make it to the finishing line whatever the cost.

And then his dad Jim appears at his side :cry:

'It's the Olympics. You die for the Olympics' said Derek.

Only the most cold hearted cynic could fail to me moved by one of the greatest moments in Olympic history.


mump boy wrote:39th

Fernanda v Wang 10k 96 44 points


At the time and for a long while after this was my favourite Olympic moment ever.

After her exploits in '93 Wang along with her Chinese teamates frustratingly disappeared. It's one thing to appear on the scene post ridiculous times and win titles but to then totally disappear made her performances even more suspicious and annoyed me because it meant none of her competitors in the rest of the world had the chance to compete against her and try and fine a way she could be broken.

I'd put the whole 'Chinese Takeaway' down as a fluke and a thoight we'd seen the last of her. But then she turns up at the Olympics out of the blue. I as really happy that she was there on the one hand but resigned to the fact she was going to defeat all comers once again. This she duly did in the 5k, with Sonia O'Sullivan unwell she had it all her own way and won easily. I expected the 10k to go the same way, but Fernanda had other ideas.

The race goes out at a reasonable pace with a group of 8 including Fernanda, Wang, Gete Wami and Derartu Tulu. With 600m to go Wang makes her move and soon opens up a 5m gap. Obviously it's all over as, well she doesn't lose does she. But the gap never grows any bigger and Fernanda is sticking to her as best she can. With 200m to go it looks as if Fernanda may be gettinga hut closer and coming into the final straight she's definitely closing. I was screaming by this point. The crowd start roaring and in the final 30m she sweeps past the unbeatable Chinese woman and wind by 5 or 6m!!!

It was the sheer shock that makes me love this race. Wang was supposed to be unbeatable and since 1993 that's what most of her competitors had thought, but Ribiero showed that with enough self belief and determination anything can happen at the Olympics.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby mump boy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:37 am

4 Votes

37th

Hicham 5 k (2 golds) 28 points

36th

JJK LJ Hep Double 88 29 points

35th

Bruce Jenner Dec 76 34 points

34th

Anne Packer 800m 64 39 points

33rd

Fanny Blankers Koen x4 48 44 points
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby drdan » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:30 am

mump boy wrote:4 Votes

34th

Anne Packer 800m 64 39 points



Oh, this totally would have been on my list, even though it's years before I was even born. I must have seen clips of the race dozens of times on the BBC. She had to run way wide into lane three on the final bend and just destroyed the rest of the field over the last 80metres. The BBC commentary is awesome "Here she comes on the outside!" (not sure if we're allowed to link to youtube, but a quick search for her name and that quotation will get you the footage).

And there's some mad story about her having almost not bothered running the final because she wanted to go shopping instead to console herself having only got the silver in the 400m!

(Actually, that's the really amazing bit about this: is she the only woman with medals in the 400 and 800 at the same Olympics?)
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby drdan » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:34 am

drdan wrote:
(Actually, that's the really amazing bit about this: is she the only woman with medals in the 400 and 800 at the same Olympics?)


Also, the other amazing bits are a) a world record and b) her hairdo, which is rockin.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Rog » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:42 am

Flumpy wrote:I don't care what anyone says Derek Redmond in 1992 is one of the quintessential Olympic moments. He didn't want to end his Olympic campaign in a heap on the floor so decided to throw a tantrum to get everyone's attention.


Agreed.

The Wang/Ribeiro 10k was a classic. I think Wang was the only top flight runner to combine 5 and 10k, male or female, at the 96 Games and apparently she was ill before the 10k final, but she still ran well considering. Ribeiro's kick was amazing though, and behind those two we had the two great Ethiopians, Wami and Tulu - it was a great field.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 4 Votes

Postby Rog » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:49 am

Ann Packer

I remember when I got into athletics my Dad telling me about this race. When I finally got to see it, it fully deserved its reputation - a really exciting competition, and what a kick! I would think an in-form Packer could easily live with the likes of Savinova.

Fanny B-K

Fanny was one of those legends I would read about in books, like Jesse Owens and Paavo Nurmi, and I was duly impressed by her 4 gold medals. The real shock and appreciation came later though when I learned that besides the 100, 200, hurdles and relay, she would have had good shots at gold in other events too (both jumps, from memory), but there were only so many events she had time to win! Surely one of the greatest all-round talents our sport has seen! Pity there wasn't a multi-events comp, and an extra week for her to contest every event in which she was world class, she could have won 7 golds!
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 4 Votes

Postby mump boy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:43 am

34th

Anne Packer 800m 64 39 points


Anne Packer was mine as well for all the reasons posted above

Also she ran 2.01.1 in i think her 6th 800m race as an afar thought with no training for the event. She then promptly retired :(

Imagine what she might have done with a few more years, sub 2min is a given.

50 years later she would have ranked 7th in UK last year and easily won the Olympic trials !!
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Flumpy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:47 am

mump boy wrote:4 Votes

37th

Hicham 5 k (2 golds) 28 points



This was one of mine, but the actual vote was for something a bit more specific.

After winning his 2nd gold medal and setting off on a lap of honour, half way round he came across Kelly who had just finished the medal ceremony for her 2nd gold.

Hicham stuck 2 fingers up in the air and in complete disbelief mouthed 2 Kelly.

'2 GOLD MEDALS. TWO!!!' :shock:

It was fantastic to see these great champs finally get their just deserts. TWICE :mrgreen:
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 4 Votes

Postby mump boy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:51 am

37th

Hicham 5 k (2 golds) 28 points


This is me as well but a bit more specific

It's not the double perse, it's the celebration afterwards

At the same time as Hicham was doing his victory lap, Kelly was on he podium getting her 2nd Gold medal. As Hitcham passes Kelly he points at her motions with 2 fingers as if to say "look i got 2 as well' :-) It was a great, emotional, moment of acknowledgement between 2 great champions :D
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 4 Votes

Postby mump boy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:51 am

Oh FFS !!

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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 4 Votes

Postby Flumpy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:00 am

Can you get your own memories please and stop copying mine.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby donley2 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:13 pm

mump boy wrote:
Bruce Jenner Dec 76 34 points



I was one of the four voters on this one. I was not really following the sport super closely (and I was bit young) but the celebration more than anything else was something that I remember very vividly.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results. 3 Votes

Postby Flumpy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:55 pm

mump boy wrote:
34th

Anne Packer 800m 64 39 points


I wasn't even alive when she won but have watched the race numerous times and she's amazual!!!

I've never seen anyone finish like that. The fact she retired directly afterwards is one of the great tragedies of Track and Field.
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