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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Per Andersen » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:35 pm

eldanielfire wrote:

As much as I like to get behidn british athletes, I can't say there is anything particularly great about Grabarz that would make him the fact of British Athletics and I'm not sure he's on par with Ivan Ukhov who is jumping higher them him when it counts and is easily the most entertaining high jumper in terms of personality and his knack for incidents. Plus there is only a year appart between them and I'm not sure Grabarz will consistently better Ukhov anytime soon or have time after Ivan is gone to make a case for face of British Athletics. On top of that we still have Jessica Ennis who is without peer and roughly the same age as Grabarz.


I don't know about the future face of UK Athletics but don't sell Grabarz short. True, Ukhov beat him handily at the Olympics but Grabarz beat him 3 times out of 7 in 1912. Those 3 wins came in big meets and he clobbered Ukhov at Eberstadt. Grabarz is a year and a half younger than Ukohv, has had only one year at the top level. Technically he is as sound as Ukhov and given his progress last year I don't think 2.40 is beyond him this year. Then Ukhov will have his hands full. In no way am I writing off Ukhov who had a career year in 2012 and could go even higher this year. But it could be a very interesting year with those two + Barshim and possibly Kynard.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Gabriella » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:24 am

mump boy wrote:So near untill Laimute Baukauskaite (Sp) !! overtook at the last minute :-(


Remember the medal ceremony? The got Baikauskaite and Samolenko the wrong the way round, and Samolenko just pushed past her compatriot and got onto the podium! Trying to prevent an embarrassment or really hoping they'd messed up and she was given silver? Methinks the latter!!
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Rog » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:35 am

Gabriella wrote:
mump boy wrote:So near untill Laimute Baukauskaite (Sp) !! overtook at the last minute :-(


Remember the medal ceremony? The got Baikauskaite and Samolenko the wrong the way round, and Samolenko just pushed past her compatriot and got onto the podium! Trying to prevent an embarrassment or really hoping they'd messed up and she was given silver? Methinks the latter!!


My memory is that Samolenko looked embarrassed - and Baikauskaite less than thrilled - but the two of them just had to grin and bear it. There's no doubt that Samolenko could have held her off for the silver, but she just didn't see her until it was too late.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Flumpy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:44 pm

mump boy wrote:
Johnners wrote:equally amazed that Chris Cahill just missed a bronze!


So near untill Laimute Baukauskaite (Sp) !! overtook at the last minute :-(


And was then awarded the bronze medal even though she won silver.

EDIT: I see I'm not the only one that remembers it.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Daisy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:13 pm

mump boy wrote:So near untill Laimute Baukauskaite (Sp) !! overtook at the last minute :-(

Wow, I just looked at this race ( QDnu5vIATnU ) and I don't remember it at all. Ivan destroyed them!
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby mump boy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:34 pm

Some 2 votes tomorrow :D
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby gh » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:44 pm

Rog wrote:
Gabriella wrote:
mump boy wrote:So near untill Laimute Baukauskaite (Sp) !! overtook at the last minute :-(


Remember the medal ceremony? The got Baikauskaite and Samolenko the wrong the way round, and Samolenko just pushed past her compatriot and got onto the podium! Trying to prevent an embarrassment or really hoping they'd messed up and she was given silver? Methinks the latter!!


My memory is that Samolenko looked embarrassed - and Baikauskaite less than thrilled - but the two of them just had to grin and bear it. There's no doubt that Samolenko could have held her off for the silver, but she just didn't see her until it was too late.


I'm with Rog: methinks they handed the medals out wrong. Fairly clear to me, because I was sitting on the finish line, about 10 rows up, and could see clearly who had won. When they marched them out onto the field for the VC, I ran down to the railing and started yelling at John Chaplin (who was an IAAF redcoat at the meet), to tell him to run out and switch them, but the stadium was so loud he couldn't hear me (and it was pre-mobiles days).

I don't think it got sorted until later.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby gh » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:47 pm

T&FN's coverage at the time said, "They were inseparable enough that the readers of the finish photo confused them. The pair exchanged nervous glances, then switched positions to collect the wrong medals when the error wasn't corrected before the Victory Ceremony."
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Fortius19 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:13 pm

last two of the first round:

#9 Wilbur "Moose" Thompson
When I went to California State University of Long Beach in the early 90's, Moose was an assistant track & field coach. I took a Track & Field PE class and Moose taught us how to shot put. Who can say they've been taught an event by an Olympic Gold Medalist? I fell in love with the shot put, but was disappointed when a skinny, wiry guy out threw me. I couldn't get my head around it. But then I out threw everyone else in the class by at least 30 feet in the discus and a new love was born.

Apparently, Moose still hangs around the campus. There was an online news story about him last July when he was 92.

http://www.presstelegram.com/ci_2116834 ... lects-1948

I tried at one point to connect Moose and the LA84 Foundation Sports Library in Los Angeles. They have some amazing oral histories.

http://www.la84foundation.org/6oic/oral_frmst.htm

I can't recall the source, but I remember reading that for the 1948 Olympics, there was some sort of contest for who performed the best out of all T&F athletes and Moose won that too.


#5 Lance Deal
Yeah, there was someone who had him on their list. I was at Atlanta, but didn't see the HT. I was just in awe that an American could do so well at the hammer. I always wished that he would have won Gold though.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Gabriella » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:31 am

gh wrote:T&FN's coverage at the time said, "They were inseparable enough that the readers of the finish photo confused them. The pair exchanged nervous glances, then switched positions to collect the wrong medals when the error wasn't corrected before the Victory Ceremony."


I prefer my version! Please allow me a little hyperbole! :D
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby vencio2 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:56 am

A few that I didn't vote for have come up:

Paula Ivan - Like a few others have mentioned, I didn't vote for things that were 'before my time', but I absolutely love this race and the way she hammers out such a fast pace from the beginning. Someone said that Ayhan adopted similar tactics and as much as I hate dirty drugs cheats, I grudgingly give her some kudos. Ivan reappared very briefly in 2000 - anybody know more about her story?

And ones that I did vote for:

Greg Rutherford '12 - purely for the 'super saturday' factor. I wish I was a betting man, as I had a pretty strong feeling right at the start of the year that he would win. For some reason I've gone right off him and find him a quite annoying.

Ellen van Langen '92 - one of my favourite races of all time - I used to have this on video and watch it over and over again.

Maria Mutola '00 - my favourite athlete, in my favourite event. 96 was meant to be her year but she was ill before the race and also had Masterkova. When she was fit after the games she got beaten by Masterkova at 1000 in a WR race, and I always wonder if she was fully fit whether she might have beaten the russian in atlanta.

Rodal '96 was mine as well but I cant really remember why now. :roll:
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Dave » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:04 am

m800 in 2012. It is very difficult to imagine a finer 2 minutes of world class athletes having their best performances of their lives on the same track in the same race(ok Kaki did not get a PB, just a seasons best).
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby nevetsllim » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:28 am

vencio2 wrote:Paula Ivan - Like a few others have mentioned, I didn't vote for things that were 'before my time', but I absolutely love this race and the way she hammers out such a fast pace from the beginning. Someone said that Ayhan adopted similar tactics and as much as I hate dirty drugs cheats, I grudgingly give her some kudos. Ivan reappared very briefly in 2000 - anybody know more about her story?


I saw a snippet on Transworld Sports about the Romanians from the 1980s and Ivan said she retired because her coach (Puica's husband) moved to Spain with Maricica and she didn't want another coach. I think she had a few races in the USA in 1990 but that was it until 2000. It seems quite a strange rationale to retire though if you ask me. :?
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby mump boy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:55 am

Dave wrote:m800 in 2012. It is very difficult to imagine a finer 2 minutes of world class athletes having their best performances of their lives on the same track in the same race(ok Kaki did not get a PB, just a seasons best).


I have a feeling there may be an opportunity to to discuss this one later
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:40 pm

2 Votes


2 points

Sally Pearson 100h victory 2012
Noah Ngeny 1500m 2000

3 points

Jan Zelezny JT 2000 (someone just put Jan win so i assumed 2000)

4 points

Betty Heidler re measurement 2012

6 points

Nawal El Moutawakel inaugral 400mh inaugural victory

8 points

Louise Ritter HJ win 88

10 points

Vince Mathews 400m win and protest 72
m4x400m relay 56
Jim Thorpe multi double 12
Phillis Smith and Arthur Caggett 400m '92
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Daisy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:58 pm

mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:22 pm

Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.


Me too

Consumate 800m race and some of the worst US commentary of all time :?
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Pego » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:25 pm

I am one of two voting for Betty Heidler. Her face after re-measurment was priceless :D .
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby gh » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:34 pm

mump boy wrote:
Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.


Me too

Consumate 800m race and some of the worst US commentary of all time :?


I have no choice but to give Charlie Jones a pass on that one; as they came off the curve, I turned to my seatmate and said, "Look at the way Kiprotich is moving!"
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Conor Dary » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:59 pm

gh wrote:
mump boy wrote:
Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.


Me too

Consumate 800m race and some of the worst US commentary of all time :?


I have no choice but to give Charlie Jones a pass on that one; as they came off the curve, I turned to my seatmate and said, "Look at the way Kiprotich is moving!"


I agree. It was quite confusing at the time. And Charlie Jones was very apologetic about it all afterwards.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Atanvarno » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:39 pm

2 points
Noah Ngeny 1500m 2000


One of mine. You had to count Noah as a serious contender after the mile race in Rome, where he gave Hicham a run for his money. But still Hicham was the overwhelming favorite and so it came as a real shock to see Noah go by him in the straight.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 1 Vote

Postby Atanvarno » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:57 pm

20 Points
Dieter Baumann wins 5k 92


Try to find a youtube video with the german commentary by Dieter Adler - he conveys the incredible excitement of the moment perfectly.

Those last 200m made me jump up and down on my chair and screaming my lungs out at the TV. Mainly I was screaming at Baumann to go round pack instead of waiting at the back. But what do I know. He kept his cool and waited for the opening on the inside (in interviews after the race he said, he knew from experience, that there would always open a gap at the beginning of the final straight).
And then those final 100m (reported to be run in 11.3 seconds) - watching that was pure joy for a young boy of 16 who had just started competitive running.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:35 am

gh wrote:
mump boy wrote:
Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.


Me too

Consumate 800m race and some of the worst US commentary of all time :?


I have no choice but to give Charlie Jones a pass on that one; as they came off the curve, I turned to my seatmate and said, "Look at the way Kiprotich is moving!"


But that doesn't excuse confusing Johnnie Gray with Kiprotich at the beginning, suggesting that Barbosa 'sacrificed' himself for Cruz and not recognising Paul Ereng will he was half way round his victory lap :?

Anyway back to Ereng the most beautiful runner ever. There are certain Kenyan runners (Ereng, Kipketer, Kiprop) who's running style isn't human. It's like they float on air and it's a wonder to behold :D
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby HopStepJump » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:41 am

3 points

Jan Zelezny JT 2000


Zelzny was my one-pointer. One of the greats getting it done yet again on the big day. What a career.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby nevetsllim » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:14 am

Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.


Me too. Are you sure it just got two votes, Mump? Granted it was just 19th in my list.

I read about it first in Wallechinsky's Olympic encyclopedia and it sounded like a scintillating race with how he described Kiprotich bolting through 200m in 23.0 (!) and Ereng yelling at him to slow down!

The 800m is by far my favourite track event (have a few more 800m races in my top-20) because of the diversity of tactics between the renowned front-runners (Kiprotich, Barbosa, Gray) and those who like to run even paced (Ereng).
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:16 am

nevetsllim wrote:
Daisy wrote:
mump boy wrote:Paul Ereng 800m 88

I voted for this one. I love watching this race. Ereng paces it perfectly and weaves through the field while the rest drop off the pace one by one.


Me too. Are you sure it just got two votes, Mump? Granted it was just 19th in my list.

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Eek :?
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:19 am

Ok seems i didn't count my own vote :?

Please talk amongst yourselves while Mr e`rent makes a quick exit. He will be back later :D
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby bobguild76 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:27 am

mump boy wrote:Anyway back to Ereng the most beautiful runner ever. There are certain Kenyan runners (Ereng, Kipketer, Kiprop) who's running style isn't human. It's like they float on air and it's a wonder to behold :D


And I would add Lasse Viren & Frank Shorter to that list. Especially at the end of those Olympic races, when Viren remained smooth as silk while refusing to let anyone pass him.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Pego » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:36 am

bobguild76 wrote:
mump boy wrote:Anyway back to Ereng the most beautiful runner ever. There are certain Kenyan runners (Ereng, Kipketer, Kiprop) who's running style isn't human. It's like they float on air and it's a wonder to behold :D


And I would add Lasse Viren & Frank Shorter to that list. Especially at the end of those Olympic races, when Viren remained smooth as silk while refusing to let anyone pass him.


I had Viren passing the two Kiwis in 5K Montreal as an option, but finally chose the other twenty above it.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Flumpy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:37 am

Noooo. It's a long legged East African thing.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby nevetsllim » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:55 am

mump boy wrote:Ok seems i didn't count my own vote :?

Please talk amongst yourselves while Mr e`rent makes a quick exit. He will be back later :D


But more importantly, you did send me the right DVDs. :P
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:19 am

nevetsllim wrote:
mump boy wrote:Ok seems i didn't count my own vote

Please talk amongst yourselves while Mr e`rent makes a quick exit. He will be back later :D


But more importantly, you did send me the right DVDs. :P


Phew :shock: they've been sitting on my desk for 6 months so i'm very happy !!
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:20 am

Flumpy wrote:Noooo. It's a long legged East African thing.


Flumps right i've never seen anyone who wasn't KEN do it
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:24 am

Because a close relative of mine is incapable of submitting his choices correctly i've had to deduct 1 point from 2 entries

they are now

1 Vote
5 Points
HUN cheats 04


Maybe Flump could explain

and

2 votes
10 points

w Marathon 92 Arimori, Arimori, Arimori


this would have been posted with the first round of 2 point votes

Me and Flump were the only ones to vote for this, it's obviously a family thing (there are more to come) i'll be back to explain later
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Olli » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:58 am

Pego wrote:
I had Viren passing the two Kiwis in 5K Montreal as an option, but finally chose the other twenty above it.


Actually, Viren did not have to pass the Kiwis; they just failed to pass him (Quax perhaps spending too much energy in going round other racers). But I happen to know we have the opportunity to return to this soon.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby Flumpy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:21 pm

mump boy wrote:1 Vote
5 Points
HUN cheats 04


As some of you will know, there are few things in T&F I love more than a dirty drug cheat getting rumbled. In this instance we got 2 in 1 go and a drug scandal of immense tawdriness.

After Hungarian throwers Robert Zazekas and Adrian Annus won gold medals they were promptly disqualifiedto. Fazekas for failing to provide a proper sample and Annus providing a sample that came from 2 different people.

Hilariously they then fled the village and drove back to Hungary whilst the IOC demanded they return and the media followed every move. Fazekas then insisted that he has no idea he was being recalled which was odd because I did. He later said that he was deeply religious and had trouble problem providing a sample whilst being watched :roll:

They both got banned for 2 years.

We later learnt that Annus had been using a fake penis and last year Fazekas got banned for life :mrgreen:

mump boy wrote:2 votes
10 points

w Marathon 92 Arimori, Arimori, Arimori


It's bad enough to have to run a marathon in the boiling heat aother thing entirely to have to run the last 2 miles up a bloody mountain!!! :shock:

It was a a race to the end with Yegorova eventually beating Arimori by only 6 seconds but I'll never forget the hoards of Japanese fans pushing their heroine up the tortuous hill.

'ARIMORI!!! ARIMORI!!' they chanted all the way and she very nearly made it.

Went to the Euros in 2010 but got the train up the hill every day. It was hard enough work getting down!!!
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:34 pm

2 votes
10 points
w Marathon 92 Arimori, Arimori, Arimori


At the european championships in Barcelona '10 we booked a hotel right the bottom of Monjouic the hill that lead to stadium. I thought i was really clever to book so close and we could have a nice little walk up to the stadium each morning

HOW WRONG I WAS

The hill goes on for miles and miles or relentless gradient We got the cable car everyday

I tell you this because the final few miles of the 92 Olympic marathon where run up this hill and led to 2 of the finest championship marathons i have ever seen.

At the '90 european championships Rosa Mota built up a considerable lead only to be caught by Valentin Yegorova at a late stage. As Yegorova approached, Rosa gave a quizzical look put her foot down and ran away to win by 5 sec.

Come 92 I don't remember Yegorova being a favourite and i don't think i'd ever heard of Arimori but the closing miles up that relentless hill in over 80 degree heat was a titanic battle between these two. Each one of them surged but neither of them broke and with the exertion etched on both their faces, we ran every step with them, but my abiding memory is the Japanese fans who seemed to be around every corner chanting 'Arimori, Arimori, Arimori' it must have given her so much strength and resolve. Unfortunately it wasn't enough as 300m from the stadium Yegorova made one last push and Arimori couldn't go with it, Yegorova won by 8 seconds behind.

I could watch that titanic battle all day, it is everything i love about athletics and marathons especially. I have friends who think watching a marathon is boring !! but they're the crazy ones obviously

4 years later both runners ran over 4 minutes quicker on Atlanta and finished in the same order but they both beaten by Fatuma Roba.

I can't find it on youtube but if anyone can explain to me how to upload something i have on VHS (i can copy to DVD) i'll happily do so
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:36 pm

Good God you'd think we were twins or something :shock:
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby nevetsllim » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:01 pm

Yeah, I don't think you get a true idea of just how steep the hill up to the Montjuic Stadium is until you've been to Barcelona! It's a good job they finished the marathons at the European Champs in 2010 right in the centre as it would have been carnage seeing as they ran them right in the middle of the day which was a dumb scheduling choice if there ever was one.
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Re: T&FN Favourite Olympic Moment Poll Results 2 Vote

Postby mump boy » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:49 am

Guess what, i made a mistake :shock:

92 Womens Marathon hasn't got 10 points it's got 12 !!

i got confused with another 92 event that is also personal to the Ump brothers

2 votes
10 points
Phillis Smith and Arthur Caggett 400m 1992


top marks to anyone who can explain this one :D
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