Rudisha loses...Eaton AOY?? [or Merritt?!]

[ZELLGADISS]

I admit that in 2011 was polemic decission, but this year is normal that he wins.
Wonderful year, historic triple victory in OG by 2nd consecutive time, and with wonderful times in each event.

Bolt is the GOAT

[t_monk]

I admit that in 2011 was polemic decission, but this year is normal that he wins.
Wonderful year, historic triple victory in OG by 2nd consecutive time, and with wonderful times in each event.

Bolt is the GOAT

KMT.... His season leading up to the Olympics was underwhelming at best... >_> He showed up for the Olympics (as most of us assumed that he would) but up to that point his season was substandard by far to Rudisha's. Rudisha then went to the Olympics and ran BAR NONE the most AMAZING 800m EVER ran in ANY condition/setting (the mere fact that he did it AT the Olympics would have emphasized how great a run this was). The only fault in the whole thing was Rudisha's final race of the season.

Rudisha deserved to win... this year.... again.

[ZELLGADISS]

I admit that in 2011 was polemic decission, but this year is normal that he wins.
Wonderful year, historic triple victory in OG by 2nd consecutive time, and with wonderful times in each event.

Bolt is the GOAT

KMT.... His season leading up to the Olympics was underwhelming at best... >_> He showed up for the Olympics (as most of us assumed that he would) but up to that point his season was substandard by far to Rudisha's. Rudisha then went to the Olympics and ran BAR NONE the most AMAZING 800m EVER ran in ANY condition/setting (the mere fact that he did it AT the Olympics would have emphasized how great a run this was). The only fault in the whole thing was Rudisha's final race of the season.

Rudisha deserved to win... this year.... again.

It is YOUR opinion.
For me won Bolt with justice.
To win 3 differents events by 2nd consecutive time(historic) with wonderful times is for me greater that WR.

[t_monk]

I admit that in 2011 was polemic decission, but this year is normal that he wins.
Wonderful year, historic triple victory in OG by 2nd consecutive time, and with wonderful times in each event.

Bolt is the GOAT

KMT.... His season leading up to the Olympics was underwhelming at best... >_> He showed up for the Olympics (as most of us assumed that he would) but up to that point his season was substandard by far to Rudisha's. Rudisha then went to the Olympics and ran BAR NONE the most AMAZING 800m EVER ran in ANY condition/setting (the mere fact that he did it AT the Olympics would have emphasized how great a run this was). The only fault in the whole thing was Rudisha's final race of the season.

Rudisha deserved to win... this year.... again.

It is YOUR opinion.
For me won Bolt with justice.
To win 3 differents events by 2nd consecutive time(historic) with wonderful times is for me greater that WR.

Yup... My opinion and the opinion from most unbiased persons who follow track and field.

[ZELLGADISS]

NO, it is your opinion and opinions of other pople that write in this forum.
But i heard coaches,athletes and journalists to tell that Bolt is winner with justice too.

So are opinions, and your opinion is not better that mine, is different.
And the votes in IAAF give AOY to Bolt.

Sorry by it

[t_monk]

NO, it is your opinion and opinions of other pople that write in this forum.
But i heard coaches,athletes and journalists to tell that Bolt is winner with justice too.

So are opinions, and your opinion is not better that mine, is different.
And the votes in IAAF give AOY to Bolt.

Sorry by it

Ok. Such is life anyways. No use complaining about these things.

[lionelp1]

Bolt and Felix ... weird decision but good for the PR stuff. Who the twerps are who voted for these decisions .......

[mump boy]

AOY

Merritt?
Rudisha?
Eaton?

Don't be ridiculous. Can't believ Aries and David actually turned up just to be insulted.

It's embarrassing.

Aries wasn't insulted he won "Inspiration of the Year" award

[Ned Ryerson]

NO, it is your opinion and opinions of other pople that write in this forum.
But i heard coaches,athletes and journalists to tell that Bolt is winner with justice too.

And last year, too?

[t_monk]

AOY

Merritt?
Rudisha?
Eaton?

Don't be ridiculous. Can't believ Aries and David actually turned up just to be insulted.

It's embarrassing.

Aries wasn't insulted he won "Inspiration of the Year" award

>_< Better they said there were giving them certificates of participation.... That being said though that is more than Adams or Ennis got....

[Dave]

The IAAF had an embarrassment of riches this year and chose to honor none of them.

While in the greater scheme of things, this is not terribly important, Bolt winning is a minor farce.

[ZELLGADISS]

NO, it is your opinion and opinions of other pople that write in this forum.
But i heard coaches,athletes and journalists to tell that Bolt is winner with justice too.

And last year, too?

In my opinion the last year is not sure by Bolt, but this year for me Bolt won with justice.

[26mi235]

I admit that in 2011 was polemic decission, but this year is normal that he wins.
Wonderful year, historic triple victory in OG by 2nd consecutive time, and with wonderful times in each event.

Bolt is the GOAT

It is an award for this year; he already got awards for before, so this is double dipping if that is the criteria (the only time it should enter is if it wasn't given the prior year and should have been...DR). Not undefeated in either event, two golds and a quarter one, one less world record than DR (and Merritt) and two less than Eaton.

Obviously, this is my opinion and you have yours; we heard yours often now...

[ATK]

NO, it is your opinion and opinions of other pople that write in this forum.
But i heard coaches,athletes and journalists to tell that Bolt is winner with justice too.

So are opinions, and your opinion is not better that mine, is different.
And the votes in IAAF give AOY to Bolt.

Sorry by it

I'm confused why you keep saying facts are opinions. I said before this isn't Gymnastics or Synchronized Swimming. We have absolute times and marks. Its impossible to not see how Bolt winning was a marketing decision...

[ZELLGADISS]

Yes exactly, everyone give our opinion, but is not universal.
Indoor season for most people is not very important, so outdoor is a lot of more important.

Bolt was without doubt the biggest star in the OG with 3 incredible Golds, with 3 great times:
-2nd best time in the history in 100, in cold conditions(around 15 degrees)and with bad start, in adittion he had injury only 1 month before.
-In 200m he had wonderful time too, jogging last 10m in adittion, and only him got better time in a bing championship in all history 200m before.
-In 4x100m he got WR, and in adittion his relay was 8.70 information PJ Vazel, the fastest time for relay tied with Powell in Beijing i think.

Someone tells here that relays does not count. why?who tells it?
http://www.iaaf.org/news/news/bolt-and- ... tes-of-the
In the official website of IAAF, they COUNT 4x100 too, so i tell it too.

He got triple gold in sprint by 2nd consecutive time, never made by nobody before.

I understand that someone thinks different and prefer Rudisha or Merrit, big runners of course, but Bolt without doubt made wonderful performances too and i think that he won this award with justice.

Regards to everybody

[ZELLGADISS]

NO, it is your opinion and opinions of other pople that write in this forum.
But i heard coaches,athletes and journalists to tell that Bolt is winner with justice too.

So are opinions, and your opinion is not better that mine, is different.
And the votes in IAAF give AOY to Bolt.

Sorry by it

I'm confused why you keep saying facts are opinions. I said before this isn't Gymnastics or Synchronized Swimming. We have absolute times and marks. Its impossible to not see how Bolt winning was a marketing decision...

ATK, ok ABSOLUTE TIMES AND MARKS?
Ok you look the IAAF TABLES and tell me WITH SINCERE, points iaaf for times Bolt in 100,200 and 4x100 and points IAAF for WR Rudisha and Merrit OK?

It is absolute and IAAF made that table for COMPARE times in different events

[toyracer]

I'll just register my disagreement with the award being given to Bolt; I thought that another athlete was more deserving.

[26mi235]

I'll just register my disagreement with the award being given to Bolt; I thought that another athlete was more deserving.

Yea, well you are just biased against Jamaicans... Opps

[good to have youback, missed your postings]

[DentyCracker]

I understand where ZELLGADISS is coming from is coming from. The problem is that scoring tables are subjective so that argument is blunted. I thought Rudisha should have won it with Meritt second to be honest. I think it is by necessity a popularty contest. I don't think marketing was at the forefront. 1:40.91 was the performance of the year for me qualitatively. Coconuts for cojones I tell you. Bolt is a vitim of his past success. 9.63 - aight, 19.26, shit even Blake has gone faster. If 9.58 and 19.32 hadn't happened he would have been a shoo-in

[lionelp1]

Well anything is possible with these votes.
They put O'Brien in the Hall of Fame with his one OG and 3 WC golds; why not Sebrle??, Gold and Silver in the OG, 3 WC Medals and the first past 9000 points. Not to mention Daley of course, only managed two successive OG Gold Medals,a world record and other medals at euro and world level.

So tell me American fans , why O'Brien.

[Ned Ryerson]

why not Sebrle??

Isn't he still active?

[mump boy]

You have to have been retired for 10 years so Sebrle not eligible but why not Bob Mathius ??

It ridiculous to me to induct people like Dan or Michael Johnson who have retired relatively recently when you have people from the 50's and 60's who have been ignored. There is plenty of time to induct recent people but a whole century to make up for first.

[bushop]

I understand where ZELLGADISS... Bolt is a vitim of his past success. 9.63 - aight, 19.26, shit even Blake has gone faster. If 9.58 and 19.32 hadn't happened he would have been a shoo-in

Good point.

[toyracer]

I'll just register my disagreement with the award being given to Bolt; I thought that another athlete was more deserving.

Yea, well you are just biased against Jamaicans... Opps

[good to have youback, missed your postings]

You made me laugh; I expected exactly that response (biased against) from someone else in this thread.

Thanks for the welcome back; things get busy for me this time of year.

[ZELLGADISS]

I understand where ZELLGADISS is coming from is coming from. The problem is that scoring tables are subjective so that argument is blunted. I thought Rudisha should have won it with Meritt second to be honest. I think it is by necessity a popularty contest. I don't think marketing was at the forefront. 1:40.91 was the performance of the year for me qualitatively. Coconuts for cojones I tell you. Bolt is a vitim of his past success. 9.63 - aight, 19.26, shit even Blake has gone faster. If 9.58 and 19.32 hadn't happened he would have been a shoo-in

Blake better by his 19.26? Please, 19.32 jogging last 10m with 3 rounds 100(one fast and one super fast)and 2 rounds in 200(one more or less fast) before in few days is A LOT OF BETTER that 19.26 without pression and full of energy with only 1 race in several days
The people looks that sometimes dont know that they tell

[bushop]

And the only award that matters is the T&F News Athlete of the Year...

The IAAF decision makes me more curious as to who will win Track & Field News' mAOY award.

Your thoughts?

[DentyCracker]

Blake better by his 19.26? Please, 19.32 jogging last 10m with 3 rounds 100(one fast and one super fast)and 2 rounds in 200(one more or less fast) before in few days is A LOT OF BETTER that 19.26 without pression and full of energy with only 1 race in several days
The people looks that sometimes dont know that they tell

I know English is not your first language so I am not surprised you missed the sarcasm in my post. I am not saying that 9.63 and 19.32 are poor performances. What I am saying is that because of 9.58 and 19.19 (I mistakenly put 19.32) the general public and most track fans won't give it the respect it deserves. I was also warning against an over reliance on the tables to rank performances as these tables are subjective and somewhat arbitrary. I hope that clears up things.

[ZELLGADISS]

Sorry DentyCracker, exactly, the english is not my first language and i did not see your sarcasm.

Yes, it is true.
For some fans looks that is not important those wonderful times because Bolt got better times in the past.
In my opinion IAAF tables are not subjective, for me are objective.
Only few more 4 years ago, in 2008 WR in 100 was 9.74 for Powell.
Bolt got 9.58 in 1 year and few months after, it is amazing, a incredible improvement.
His WR was a long distance of most WRS in all events.
Perhaps only Bubka in pole vault and Zelezny are Wrs more or less near(in the IAAF tables is same too), but other WRS in other events have a long margin yet.
In 100 m the margin now is very very few, perhaps with luck, big start and good wind a little less 9.50 but not much more.

So, in my opinion no doubts, his times were better that WR Rudisha or Merrit, and the votes in IAAF were it.

Take care.

[gh]

The IAAF decision makes me more curious as to who will win Track & Field News' mAOY award.

Your thoughts?

If our panel votes Bolt any higher than No. 4 I'll be most disappointed in them (not that they'd give a shit!).

[Dave]

I am guessing Merritt will edge out Rudisha followed by Eaton in the T&FN mAOY award. But any of those guys could be in any of the three positions. They all had a wonderful year.

Bolt and Farah will duke it out for 4th and 5th.

[unclezadok]

1. Merritt
2. Rudisha
3. Eaton
4. Bolt

or 1. Rudisha
2. Merritt
3. Eaton
4. Bolt

And the only award that matters is the T&F News Athlete of the Year...

[Dave]

Did Bolt have a better year than Mo Farah?

[Flumpy]

Bolt and Farah will duke it out for 4th and 5th.

They probably will but they definitely shouldn't.

4th - Robert Harting

[Dave]

Bolt and Farah will duke it out for 4th and 5th.

They probably will but they definitely shouldn't.

4th - Robert Harting

I'll take your word for that.

Though which had the superior year: Bolt or Farah?

[mump boy]

Bolt and Farah will duke it out for 4th and 5th.

They probably will but they definitely shouldn't.

4th - Robert Harting

I can go with that but i don't want to be too anti Usain either, he was amazing this year but is a victim of his own success, i'll have to give this on a bit of thought

Mo is also behind Lavillenie and maybe Ukhov