Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold


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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:44 am

Women 800m Run Open
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Saturday (4:40 pm)
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National — 1:58.71, Nicole Teter (2002)
Armory — 1:58.71, Nicole Teter (2002)
Meet — 2:03.43, Frances Santin (2006)
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1 3025 Supino, Christina unattached
2 3014 Wilson, Heather NJ-NY TC
3 3026 Herrick, Stephanie Central Park TC
4 3015 Wilson, Ajee adidas


yes, it's a 4:40 pm starttime, so i presume anyone can catch the race on flotrack IF YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT and my contact has hishs girlsrunning in the hs 4X200 at 5:12 and hs girls 4X4 at 8:10

so he should be able to give me his read on ajee run as he;ll be there live
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:46 am

with these 4 people in the race, i curious to see how ajee runs tomorrow

it doesnt appear to have the pacers reqired to make a run at the ajr

will ajee treat it as a rudisha like timetrial to make a run at a fast time

i'd like her to take a shot at it, but i;m not expecting her to get it
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:04 pm

Women 800m Run Open
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Saturday (4:40 pm)
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National — 1:58.71, Nicole Teter (2002)
Armory — 1:58.71, Nicole Teter (2002)
Meet — 2:03.43, Frances Santin (2006)
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Final
1 Wilson, Ajee' Adidas 2:05.54
2 Wilson, Heather NJ - NY TC 2:08.16
3 Supino, Christina Unattached 2:11.96
4 Douma, Alyssa Unattached 2:18.41
-- Herrick, Stephanie Central Park TC DNF
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:40 am

ajee 800 at armory over the weekend plus interview afterrace

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?vi ... ional-2013
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:47 pm

looking at millrose startlists

the womens 800 will be tough for ajee

Melissa Bishop, Nike (Canada)
Alysia Montano, Nike
Erica Moore, Nike
LaTavia Thomas, Nike
Ajee' Wilson, adidas
Phoebe Wright, Nike
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby Blues » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:55 am

az2004 wrote:looking at millrose startlists

the womens 800 will be tough for ajee

Melissa Bishop, Nike (Canada)
Alysia Montano, Nike
Erica Moore, Nike
LaTavia Thomas, Nike
Ajee' Wilson, adidas
Phoebe Wright, Nike


The Millrose race is a 600... Ajee's recent 600m AJR is faster than the other runners in the race have ever run, but her 400 PR of 54.04 from last May is slower than the 400 PRs of the other athletes in the race except for Melissa Bishop.... Montano and Moore have 400 PRs around 1.5 to 2 seconds faster than Ajee Wilson's, although their 400m PRs are from over 2 years ago... This will be an interesting race.
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:24 am

you are totally correct, i just assumed it was a 800

ajee base speed is very good

should have realized from the mens entants borlee will not do a 800, 600 he would

nick symmonds at 600 seems short thoug h

54 from last year might be a tad slow, based on her current 600 time, sub 54 would be my current projection
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:35 am

It definitely is a 600. Don't think Ajee can handle Phoebe or Montano in an 800 right now, but in the 600 whoever breaks first has a huge advantage.
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:11 pm

gh wrote:What "3-4 events" can you possibly imagine her running at Florida State? Based on times so far, she's not fast enough to run the 4x4, and she's never tried a 1500. So that leaves her soloing in the 800.



gh ajee ran a 4:52 mile at penn relays..

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248558 ... ampionship

she was 3-4 most of the race

i think you vastly undersestimate her 400 abilty

there are a good number of 4:52 entering college who grew into the event

i do agree 800 is her event, the last 200 of her 800 are better than decent

adidas pays 4 years f college at temple in kinesiology
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:37 pm

has anyone done the conversion what a 1:27.30 converts to a real 400meter race

i suspect her 54.05 pr for 400 would have gone down
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby az2004 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:58 am

in talking to a friend who is a big time lawyer at schnader harrison a major law firm in philly, he said he was interviewing nicole leace formerly of ucla, who is a law student at temple class of 2015
http://www.law.temple.edu/pdfs/esq/esq_winter2012.pdf

don't know if she will still compete, but nice to see she has a good career prospect
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby highjumpfan » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:03 am

With the power of hindsight, it looks like a brilliant decision for Ms. Wilson.
Having just watched her run in Stockholm, she seems to have the poise and ability of a much more seasoned athlete.
While not quite receiving the adoration and idolization of another stellar junior (See Ms. Cain) she has had a truly spectacular season and stepped up her game in a major way.
I don't believe their is an award for T&FN junior of the year, but if their was would she be the winner? It's a tough call, but makes the future of American Women's middle distance running that much more exciting.
Congratulations Ms. Wilson on a spectacular season, not just for a junior, but for any athlete of any age. I look forward to hearing of your accomplishments for years to come.
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby notlef70 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:57 am

mal wrote:The days of high school, 4 years of college and a job are gone.

People say youth is wasted on the young. I think you have to follow your goals, when you're best able.

She can always go to college. Sure she may have to pay, but she can always go. She won't always run fast.


I CONCUR!!! Especially when your gift is so obvious!! She can always go back to college, but she can't always run fast!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Ajee Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby JumboElliott » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:12 pm

gh wrote:Waaay bold move for somebody who didn't even make the OT final last year. My guess is she'll regret the lack of real-race experience that's about to become part of her life. Zackly when/where is she going to hone her actual racing skills?

Bump
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby DentyCracker » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:57 pm

gh do want your crow barbecued or roasted with a bit of Tabasco or Scotch Bonnet LOL
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby gh » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:32 am

who hacked my account?!!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby Master Po » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:17 am

I will add myself to that "order of crow." Even though I did not post to that effect months ago, I agreed w gh's post back then. So, congratulations to those more astute than me (though that's setting the bar rather low...). And congratulations to Ms. Wilson for her great season!

Now that she's a seasoned 19yo professional, it's time for a little retrospective analysis of her career so far. Here are selected stats for her championship record since 2009 (15yo), her SBs, and her progression. It is impressive.

2009 (15 yo)
AAU JO 1st 2:07.08 SB

2010 (16 yo)
USATF Jr 1st
WJC 5th 2:04.18 SB

2011 (17 yo)
WY Trials 1st
WYC Gold 2:02.64 SB

2012 (18 yo)
USATF Jr 1st
USATF/OT SF
WJC Gold 2:00.91 SB

2013
USATF Indoor 1st
USATF 3rd
WC 6th 1:58.21 SB

One striking thing in these stats, for me, is that she ran her SB (so, each year, her PB) in the biggest championship race for her of that season. This suggests to me something about her capacity to rise to the occasion and race her best in such settings. Not all athletes have this capacity, and so I hope this interpretation of her record so far is true and continues to be true for her. It sure looks like that's the case so far. (Note: I'm sure someone could argue that in 2012 the USATF/OT meet was "bigger" than WJC, as success there would have put her in the OG, but I'm not arguing that because I didn't see her as someone who was going to make the USA OG team last year in any case. That meet was good for her experience, but she wasn't, imo, a contender for the team.)

And note this progression of improvement of SBs/PBs:

2009 (15)>2010 (16) = 2.90 second improvement
2010 (16)>2011 (17) = 1.54
2011 (17)>2012 (18) = 1.73
2012 (18)>2013 (19) = 2.70 [edit to correct miscalculation.]

Having observed her career throughout this period, I certainly have been aware of her accomplishments and her improvement, but looking at this, I think I should say that (somehow) I underestimated her, even if only a little bit. I did not imagine she would make the improvement she has made this year. I wish good health and another good season for her in 2014!
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby 18.99s » Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:53 am

Master Po wrote:2012 (18 yo)
WJC Gold 2:00.91 SB

2013
WC 6th 1:58.21 SB

2012 (18)>2013 (19) = 1.70


That should be 2.70.
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby cladthin » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:35 am

Not having read that much of the thread I'm guessing a lot of concern was related to the questions about a young athlete not being in an obviously structured environment and with proper guidance that many collegiate program could provide. Without these factors, the success then is put squarely upon the shoulders of the athlete (managing of their talent, work ethic, maturity, etc.) and the guidance from their coach, agent/manager. Simply based upon her early career results, Wilson appears to have a very solid environment from which she can thrive-I think it was posted recently she is attending Temple this fall with her sister?
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby Master Po » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:00 pm

18.99s wrote:
Master Po wrote:2012 (18 yo)
WJC Gold 2:00.91 SB

2013
WC 6th 1:58.21 SB

2012 (18)>2013 (19) = 1.70


That should be 2.70.


Oops. :oops: Too much higher mathematics too early in the morning. Now corrected. Thanks. :)
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby Marlow » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:09 pm

Master Po wrote:And note this progression of improvement of SBs/PBs:

2009 (15)>2010 (16) = 2.90 second improvement
2010 (16)>2011 (17) = 1.54
2011 (17)>2012 (18) = 1.73
2012 (18)>2013 (19) = 2.70 [edit to correct miscalculation.]

Wow! The steadiness of her improvement, especially at these ages, is REMARKABLE! It portends (no jinx!) continued success. Count me in as one who thought she'd end up as a mid-teen phenom with no pay-off later.
Big fan NOW!!!
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:29 pm

I think that the last interval, with its big jump, reflects 'going pro' and devoting full time and getting professional coaching and all the rest. Of course, the other component is that she is running on faster tracks, in general.
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:39 pm

How about the fact that she set two personal bests of more than a second this season alone?
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby donley2 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:39 pm

While the US commentators rarely do or say anything we hard core fans like I must give props to (Masback I think) who pointed out that Cains amazing season had almost completely taken up the spotlight and that Wilson deserved some props for what she had done this year. In this case I must strongly concur. Wilson has had an amazing season, and it would be really great to have both her and Montano competing at a high level for many more years.
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Re: Ajee' Wilson Puts College On Hold

Postby Master Po » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:53 pm

^^ Agree. And would add Martinez (at this distance & 1500). Also, among USA Jrs in this event, there is Amy Weissenbach -- same age as Wilson -- she ran an a-t top 10 USA jr 800 this year, which in most other years would have garnered her some attention here.

One other note on Wilson: If I have updated correctly for myself the USA a-t Jr list at 800m, Wilson has in addition to the USA Jr record, a total of 6 of the top 10 performances on that a-t list. Add to that Cain's & Weissenbach's outstanding 800 PBs this year, and only two of the a-t top 10 USA Jrs on the top 10 performance list are from the "old days" -- Kim Gallagher's time from 1982, & Kathy Weston's time from 1976.
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