¶2012 OG: m1500–Taoufik Makhloufi (Algeria) 3:34.08¶2012 OG: m1500–Taoufik Makhloufi (Algeria) 3:34.08T&FN formchart advancing to final
1. Asbel Kiprop (Kenya) 2. Silas Kiplagat (Kenya) 3. Nixon Chepseba (Kenya) 4. Nick Willis (New Zealand) 5. Taoufik Makhloufi (Algeria) 6. Ayanleh Souleiman (Djibouti) 7. Mekonnen Gebremedhin (Eth) 8. Abdelaati Iguider (Mor) 9. Hamza Driouch (Qatar) 10. Leonel Manzano (USA)
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Perusing the start lists for the first round of this event, and noting the process of advancement (top 6 in each heat Q, plus next 6 fastest times q), and then perusing the 2012 times listed for each athlete...I note, regarding USA entrants:
Manzano is 9th best 2012 "seed time" in his heat; Wheating 10th; Centrowitz 9th. I know that 2012 SB performances aren't destiny, etc., etc. , but ... looking at all the entrants' 2012 times made me wonder how many of the USA's group will even advance to the semifinal, much less the final. All these guys are capable, but I wonder. I would not be surprised if Wheating does not advance, given his long layoff since last year, his lack of racing this year, injuries, and the fact that he doesn't have all that much international experience in general, relative to others. As for Manzano, I know he's on the formchart, but even with his experience, I don't know. His inconsistency makes me wonder. Centrowitz is of course also young in his int'l career, but his 800m PB last week and my very unscientific sense of his race-smarts gives me more confidence in his advancement. (And as usual, I expect to be wrong on much of this...)
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Chepseba? I'm not puttin' my money on any Kenyan distance runner whose name doesn't start with K. It's a losing proposition.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Heat 1, like the SC, is loaded, with six PBs under 3:33, compared to three in heat 3.
62, 2:08... >:-) Cheers, Alan Shank Woodland, CA, USA
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–
Uh... who won 1500m in Sydney?
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Olympic Record: 3.32,07, Noah Ngeny, KEN, Sydney 2000
2008 Results: G-Asbel Kiprop, KEN, 3.33,11; S-Nick Willis, NZL, 3.34,16; B-Mehdi Baala, FRA, 3.34,21 ================================================================================
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–This kid, and I mean kid (not a 25 yr old Kenyan or Ethiopian "junior") Hamza Driouch looks like the real thing. He's probably a year or two away from taking over the event, but from what I've seen so far, he comes off as a literally can't miss top dog. Wish he'd have been born a couple of years earlier. Maybe it's just me, but for some reason he reminds me of Ryun and El G - like a combination of both of them. I think it's the arm swing at certain angles has me thinking of JR and his smoothness brining back memories of El G.
All that said, looks like it's Kiprop's race to lose, and I wouldn't be surprised if Willis medals again - he had a very strong finish a few weeks back when running his fastest race of the year. He had a lot in the tank. Yeah yeah, Kiplagat has all that potential. But I don't think Kiprop has near lived up to his own potential yet. If any American is going to snake through and surprise it'll be Centro. Last year I thought it was a waste with him in the worlds. Nope. Had to eat my words. Very savvy runner. Very aware of his surroundings.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–madd marine -- agree w your perception of Driouch -- who knows how he will do here, but he seems to have great potential, and also reminds me of Ryun & El G in the way he runs. Also agree w your assessment of Kiprop & Centrowitz. Will be interesting to see how it actually plays out. If I could have it by my preferences (not predictions), it would be Kiprop, Willis, Centrowitz.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Also agree about the similarities with Drouich. The way he won the world junior title was very El Guerrouj-esque (when he didn't have pacemakers in the final, that is)
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Now, watch...with no confidence in Mazano justifyably because of his inconsistency...he'll sneek in there with a great kick and surprize...in top 6 somewhere.Centro is not in top shape like last year but I suspect he'll still get in the final and maybe (hopefully) surprize again.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Allow me to be the first to express my complete and utter disbelief that a Moroccan distance runner tested positive for a banned substance.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–
I'm aware of those disclosed earlier this summer -- Goumri, Selsouli -- and am wondering if you are commenting on someone else, related to this event.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–
Thanks for pointing this out -- link here -- Just announced today, it seems. http://olympics.runnersworld.com/2012/m ... t-of-olys/
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–3.35 first heat. Even pacing. Kiprop second.
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Re: 2012 OG: m1500–God, Leo Manzano is infuriating.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Leo, Leo, Leo! What abysmal tactics. Hint: in semi stay up near the front....all the way.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Wheating can't rely on that tactic in any futher racing. El Guerrouj, Jr. needs some tuning up, too.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Wheating 7th but slow heat.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Difficult to recognize the U.S. runners, wearing all red and no blue. Doesn't help that they are way behind.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Didn't expect Wheating to get through given his foot problems. But, when you start out in good position, fight to keep it, don't drop to near last place and expect to blast it. Too many fast guys. Why don't these guys ever seem to learn.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–
And did not run through the line!
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Wheating looks like he's through. The red shirts are confusing me, I kept thinking a Moroccan was Centrowitz.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Chepseba tripped and looks like he's out.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–he doesn't deserve to move on. If he had fallen down, I would have said yes.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Will that be chalked up to "just racing" or will there be a Kenyan protest?
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Diego Ruiz is out by 0.01
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–
I think you're correct -- looks like he has the 6th q.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–
I'm almost sure there will be a Kenyan protest, and I'm scared that it will get ugly if it's denied.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Makhloufi leads Q to semis with 3:35.15T&FN formchart advancing to semis
1. Asbel Kiprop (Kenya) 2. Silas Kiplagat (Kenya) 3. Nixon Chepseba (Kenya) 4. Nick Willis (New Zealand) 5. Taoufik Makhloufi (Algeria) 6. Ayanleh Souleiman (Djibouti) 7. Mekonnen Gebremedhin (Eth) 8. Abdelaati Iguider (Mor) 9. Hamza Driouch (Qatar) 10. Leonel Manzano (USA)
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Makhloufi leads Q to semis with 3:35.15All 3 USA guys make it thru to semi final...Wheating barely in , but made it.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Makhloufi leads Q to semis with 3:35.15Chepseba is back in. He shouldn't be.
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Makhloufi leads Q to semis with 3:35.15
Though I'm not an expert on what the criteria are for advancing a runner on protest, I'm inclined to agree w you. I realize he stumbled a bit on contact with another runner, but it looked really like an ordinary sort of contact, and either no one's fault (or if anyone's, as much Chepseba's as the other guy). Didn't seem worthy of a successful protest. But what do I know?
Re: 2012 OG: m1500–Makhloufi leads Q to semis with 3:35.15
That's for sure. If he were from the US or Europe he'd be out on his luck.
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