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¶2012 OG: w4x100–United States 40.82 WR !!!!

Postby dj » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:49 pm

T&FN formchart Advancers to final

1. United States
2. Jamaica
3. Trinidad
4. Ukraine
5. Germany

6. Russia
7. Holland
8. Brazil

9. France
10. Poland

Also Advancing to Final
Nigeria
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby j-a-m » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:24 pm

Looking good for the U.S. with three runners in yesterday's top five; still far from over, though.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:28 pm

I am waiting to see what Simpson does in the 200 to confirm... But I think that a line up of SAFP - SS - VCB - KS can beat anything the US puts on the track right now...
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby MightyBurner » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:40 pm

Huh. Didn't you see three American women break 10.9?
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:52 pm

MightyBurner wrote:Huh. Didn't you see three American women break 10.9?


Yup.... Jeter 10.78, Madison 10.85, Felix 10.89, 11.07
And the JA girls went 10.75 SB = 10.70), 10.81, 11.04 (in semi w/ 10.94 SB), 11.01 = 43.61

US accumulative time = 43.59
and JAM accumulative = 43.61 (based on SB = 43.46)

Leg for leg.... This will be fun to watch.... :D
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby jamal00005 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:18 pm

t_monk wrote:
MightyBurner wrote:Huh. Didn't you see three American women break 10.9?


Yup.... Jeter 10.78, Madison 10.85, Felix 10.89, 11.07
And the JA girls went 10.75 SB = 10.70), 10.81, 11.04 (in semi w/ 10.94 SB), 11.01 = 43.61

US accumulative time = 43.59
and JAM accumulative = 43.61 (based on SB = 43.46)

Leg for leg.... This will be fun to watch.... :D


As for now the Americans are the favorites until i see what kind of shape SS is in her 200m tommorow
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby ATK » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:22 pm

Stewart has already shown she is not in form, that puts them in a bigger deficit than they were already at.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:24 pm

ATK wrote:Stewart has already shown she is not in form, that puts them in a bigger deficit than they were already at.


She ran 11.04 in the semi... with a horrible start. The weak part of her race has been her start all these championships. I'm pretty sure she won't be running lead-off for the Jam team anytime soon.

Kerron is in form... not at her best.... but she is definitely in form.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby jamal00005 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:24 pm

ATK wrote:Stewart has already shown she is not in form, that puts them in a bigger deficit than they were already at.


when ppl get batons in their hands is an absolutely different thing ,she may be motivated to run even faster since she doesn't have a medal
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby ATK » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:49 pm

That form KS is in is not nearly good enough.
They basically just replaced Myers with a faster T. Madison, Felix is way faster, and more rested, and Tarmoh is faster than Bianca Knight.

The HUGE loss of speed by KS make a bigger difference than the improvement of SAFP.
We can say VCB is even with where she was last year (even though she is not), and Simpson has yet to show her form at these games.

Assuming everyone has good passes, the US will walk away from them like last year. Even if they bobble a little bit, they most likely will still win.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:56 pm

ATK wrote:That form KS is in is not nearly good enough.
They basically just replaced Myers with a faster T. Madison, Felix is way faster, and more rested, and Tarmoh is faster than Bianca Knight.

The HUGE loss of speed by KS make a bigger difference than the improvement of SAFP.
We can say VCB is even with where she was last year (even though she is not), and Simpson has yet to show her form at these games.

Assuming everyone has good passes, the US will walk away from them like last year. Even if they bobble a little bit, they most likely will still win.


KS is in much better form than she was in last year and this is even taking into consideration that she made the finals last year and didn't this year. Same can be said about SAFP and as for VCB she is slightly down on where she was last year in terms of her 100m times leading up to the majors although her times this majors in the 100 is the best she has ever produced.

I think the major ish has been the line up.... And that has been fixed :D

All will be revealed in time though.... So good luck to your team!
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby ATK » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:13 pm

t_monk wrote:KS is in much better form than she was in last year and this is even taking into consideration that she made the finals last year and didn't this year.

HUH?

She ran a 10.87 last year. Her best this year is 10.94. And slower on the 200 as well.


:?
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby smithg » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:43 pm

someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:44 pm

ATK wrote:
t_monk wrote:KS is in much better form than she was in last year and this is even taking into consideration that she made the finals last year and didn't this year.

HUH?

She ran a 10.87 last year. Her best this year is 10.94. And slower on the 200 as well.


:?


10.87 v 10.94....

That 10.87 was prior to her getting mid-season injury. It was also done with a +2.0w and in Eugene of all places... In a race where no one improved on their SB for that entire season (except Anderson who improved her SB by 0.01 after that race in Brazil). :?

Fast forward that same season Kerron was running 11.15 in the finals of the 100m in Daegu...

Taking a look at this season, Kerron has only ran below 11 seconds 2x's and seems consistently in 11.0x form at least in these Championships and that is mostly with her having no start to speak of. Kerron came into these Championships in MUCH better form and I am of the belief that her not running the 200 will work out in her favor seeing that she can focus solely on the 4x100 from this point onwards.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:45 pm

smithg wrote:someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?


The only way Felix is not on that 4x400 is injury....
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby Boxer4robb » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:53 pm

t_monk wrote:
smithg wrote:someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?


The only way Felix is not on that 4x400 is injury....


100m rounds
200m rounds
4x100m
AND 4x400m

Is she gonna have anything left??
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:01 pm

Boxer4robb wrote:
t_monk wrote:
smithg wrote:someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?


The only way Felix is not on that 4x400 is injury....


100m rounds
200m rounds
4x100m
AND 4x400m

Is she gonna have anything left??


She did 400m rounds, 200m rounds, 4x100m and 4x400m last year..... Oh and she looks in much better form this year I dare say.... Once again the only thing keeps Felix off that 4x400 is injury...
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby efua ninsin » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:05 pm

Are we sure that safp is going to man up and start the relay? Or is she going to start the madness again of 3 years ago?
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby Z89 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:08 pm

I'm sure Felix will do all the events. Probably not the 4x100 and 4x400 semifinal rounds, but just the finals of each. She'll have plenty left in the tank. Choosing the 100 over the 400 this year saved some energy expenditure. Plus, I'm sure these professional athletes (and their coaches) properly prepare for a certain sequence of events, with an appropriate amount of endurance work. Look at what Phelps and Franklin did in swimming all those heats, semifinals, finals, and relays.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:13 pm

efua ninsin wrote:Are we sure that safp is going to man up and start the relay? Or is she going to start the madness again of 3 years ago?


:D

Yall are in for a surprise! Getting their ass whopped last year did WONDERS for team synergy #justsaying
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby efua ninsin » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:25 pm

Hope they got it together because the gold is desperately needed.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby jamal00005 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:40 pm

t_monk wrote:
efua ninsin wrote:Are we sure that safp is going to man up and start the relay? Or is she going to start the madness again of 3 years ago?


:D

Yall are in for a surprise! Getting their ass whopped last year did WONDERS for team synergy #justsaying


You tell them the jamaican camp is booming and everybody is damn excited and willing to pull their weight according to Deon hemmings
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:24 pm

smithg wrote:someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?

On the other hand, given Sanya's 22.09 PR (which may yet be faster by week's end), and the way she ran that first 100 of her 400, what are the chances that she'll be on the 4x100 squad for the final? I'm thinking she will lead off, with Tianna on the back straight, Allyson on the far curve and Carmelita on the final stretch. Jeneba Tarmoh is not going to be happy to sit out the final.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:29 pm

Z89 wrote:I'm sure Felix will do all the events. Probably not the 4x100 and 4x400 semifinal rounds, but just the finals of each. She'll have plenty left in the tank. Choosing the 100 over the 400 this year saved some energy expenditure. Plus, I'm sure these professional athletes (and their coaches) properly prepare for a certain sequence of events, with an appropriate amount of endurance work. Look at what Phelps and Franklin did in swimming all those heats, semifinals, finals, and relays.

And once again, let us not forget Sanya, who might end up doing double duty in the relay finals as well. Tarmoh will sit out the 4x100 final.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby Speedster » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:34 pm

CookyMonzta wrote:
Z89 wrote:I'm sure Felix will do all the events. Probably not the 4x100 and 4x400 semifinal rounds, but just the finals of each. She'll have plenty left in the tank. Choosing the 100 over the 400 this year saved some energy expenditure. Plus, I'm sure these professional athletes (and their coaches) properly prepare for a certain sequence of events, with an appropriate amount of endurance work. Look at what Phelps and Franklin did in swimming all those heats, semifinals, finals, and relays.

And once again, let us not forget Sanya, who might end up doing double duty in the relay finals as well. Tarmoh will sit out the 4x100 final.


As much as I'd love to see Sanya on that team, it's not going to happen. She's done none of the training required, it would be a huge risk in an event the US team have failed at ona number of times.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby CookyMonzta » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:17 am

Speedster wrote:
CookyMonzta wrote:
Z89 wrote:I'm sure Felix will do all the events. Probably not the 4x100 and 4x400 semifinal rounds, but just the finals of each. She'll have plenty left in the tank. Choosing the 100 over the 400 this year saved some energy expenditure. Plus, I'm sure these professional athletes (and their coaches) properly prepare for a certain sequence of events, with an appropriate amount of endurance work. Look at what Phelps and Franklin did in swimming all those heats, semifinals, finals, and relays.

And once again, let us not forget Sanya, who might end up doing double duty in the relay finals as well. Tarmoh will sit out the 4x100 final.


As much as I'd love to see Sanya on that team, it's not going to happen. She's done none of the training required, it would be a huge risk in an event the US team have failed at ona number of times.

With Sanya, I don't think that would be much of a problem, because she would almost certainly be the leadoff leg, where she would only have to listen for the gun and pass the stick.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby Speedster » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:38 am

CookyMonzta wrote:With Sanya, I don't think that would be much of a problem, because she would almost certainly be the leadoff leg, where she would only have to listen for the gun and pass the stick.


If only it was that easy!
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby smithg » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:20 am

Speedster wrote:
CookyMonzta wrote:With Sanya, I don't think that would be much of a problem, because she would almost certainly be the leadoff leg, where she would only have to listen for the gun and pass the stick.


If only it was that easy!


Yeah who saw Monaco?
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby notlef70 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:29 am

smithg wrote:someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?


Felix has been has been a member of the USA womens' 4x400 each year since the 2007 WC, so I'm almost certain that she will be running in the final this year... Felix, SRR,Trotter, and Mccorory will run in the final..... 3:16 or faster!!!! That is my prediction...
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby notlef70 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:31 am

CookyMonzta wrote:
Speedster wrote:
CookyMonzta wrote:
Z89 wrote:I'm sure Felix will do all the events. Probably not the 4x100 and 4x400 semifinal rounds, but just the finals of each. She'll have plenty left in the tank. Choosing the 100 over the 400 this year saved some energy expenditure. Plus, I'm sure these professional athletes (and their coaches) properly prepare for a certain sequence of events, with an appropriate amount of endurance work. Look at what Phelps and Franklin did in swimming all those heats, semifinals, finals, and relays.

And once again, let us not forget Sanya, who might end up doing double duty in the relay finals as well. Tarmoh will sit out the 4x100 final.


As much as I'd love to see Sanya on that team, it's not going to happen. She's done none of the training required, it would be a huge risk in an event the US team have failed at ona number of times.

With Sanya, I don't think that would be much of a problem, because she would almost certainly be the leadoff leg, where she would only have to listen for the gun and pass the stick.


Not going to happen... SRR wont be on the 4x100....
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby iain » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:43 am

notlef70 wrote:
smithg wrote:someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?


Felix has been has been a member of the USA womens' 4x400 each year since the 2007 WC, so I'm almost certain that she will be running in the final this year... Felix, SRR,Trotter, and Mccorory will run in the final..... 3:16 or faster!!!! That is my prediction...

Please don't even start. There is absolutely NO CHANCE.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby notlef70 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:05 am

iain wrote:
notlef70 wrote:
smithg wrote:someone tell me; is Felix going to run 4x1 only or can she be coaxed into the 4x4??? after seeing Richards and Trotter going sub 50 tonight I gotta think adding Felix to the 4x4 something being considered?


Felix has been has been a member of the USA womens' 4x400 each year since the 2007 WC, so I'm almost certain that she will be running in the final this year... Felix, SRR,Trotter, and Mccorory will run in the final..... 3:16 or faster!!!! That is my prediction...

Please don't even start. There is absolutely NO CHANCE.


Start what? They ran 3:17 with a 50.2 leg from the hurdler (Demus) in 2011, so why would a second improvement be far-fetched with at least 3- 49 second open 400 meter runners?
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby Weights&Shoes » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:38 am

This def won't be easy for the Jamaicans.

While SAFP and VCB have performed, the rest haven't and looked weak.

- Kerron Stewart only made it to the 100 semi's
- Sherrone Simpson looked terrible in her 200 semi

And those were the weak legs in the WC finals last year, specifically SS 3rd leg.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby t_monk » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:19 pm

Weights&Shoes wrote:This def won't be easy for the Jamaicans.

While SAFP and VCB have performed, the rest haven't and looked weak.

- Kerron Stewart only made it to the 100 semi's
- Sherrone Simpson looked terrible in her 200 semi

And those were the weak legs in the WC finals last year, specifically SS 3rd leg.


I agree.... #nodshead
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby jamal00005 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:35 pm

t_monk wrote:
Weights&Shoes wrote:This def won't be easy for the Jamaicans.

While SAFP and VCB have performed, the rest haven't and looked weak.

- Kerron Stewart only made it to the 100 semi's
- Sherrone Simpson looked terrible in her 200 semi

And those were the weak legs in the WC finals last year, specifically SS 3rd leg.


I agree.... #nodshead

I really don't see how the Jamaicans are going to beat the Americans with a team that has simpson and stewart who are not on form
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby Gabriella » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:37 pm

Agreed. unless the US have dreadful baton passing, they are a lock in this (as much as they ever can with their poor baton passing history!)

I would go so far as to say that a highly drilled slower team could take Jamaica if they too get their own exchanges wrong.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby Weights&Shoes » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:57 pm

We'll see.....

I'm guessing it'll be:

USA - Madison, Felix, Tarmoh, Jeter (1 and 3 could switch places)
Jamaica - SAFP, Stewart, SS, VCB (2008 Oly and 2011 Worlds lineup)

Tarmoh and Madison > Stewart and SS to me. If both get through the finals and make their passes I only see Jamaica winning if they have an inside lane. Can't be outside the U.S. like the World Championships.
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby jjimbojames » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:04 pm

Weights&Shoes wrote:We'll see.....

I'm guessing it'll be:

USA - Madison, Felix, Tarmoh, Jeter (1 and 3 could switch places)
Jamaica - SAFP, Stewart, SS, VCB (2008 Oly and 2011 Worlds lineup)

Tarmoh and Madison > Stewart and SS to me. If both get through the finals and make their passes I only see Jamaica winning if they have an inside lane. Can't be outside the U.S. like the World Championships.

Agree with your US line up, but I reckon JAM go with SAFP-SS-VCB-KS. Still give US the win
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby uakari » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:08 pm

ok ,i said this before, why do people think twitter is a good thing?

people need to learn to keep their mouth shut.


http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/b ... worse.html
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Re: 2012 OG: w4x100–

Postby jamal00005 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:35 pm

uakari wrote:ok ,i said this before, why do people think twitter is a good thing?

people need to learn to keep their mouth shut.


http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/b ... worse.html


I really don't know what the situation is but i think she deserves to run the relay since she was in a dead heat at trials for the third but Im not American so that is the least of my problems maybe it will cause a rift and the jamaicans can prevail from it
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