nbcolympics.com streaming (USA)

[sprintzfan]

I'll send you the link bruce.

Isn't BBC like the preferred network in MANY parts of the world? Not just Europe?

So BBC online traffic for these games, should dwarf that of NBC, I'm thinking.

Add to that, the immense popularity of Track and Field in Europe, compared to the U.S. At the time a big race is happening live, do you think there are more U.S. based fans watching NBCOlympics.com, than there are worldwide fans watching this BBC site I'm about to send you?

You guys seem to me, to be bending over backwards to make excuses and justifications for NBC, no matter what. You might be right that the NBC traffic is higher, but so far I haven't seen an argument articulated here that makes me suspect that to be the case.

BBC has a HUGE international imprint from all I've seen, reaad and heard. No American over-the-air type network, including NBC can boast the same. Therefore, I think for all the reasons I state in this post, the odds that the NBC traffic exceed that of BBC are slim.

Now maybe this "proxy way" we are getting BBC, puts us on a less trafficked server or something. I don't know how all that works. But I still see a reasons to work off of the assumption, that it isn't a traffic issue that acts as the reason these bootleg international feeds we are using, is such a better stream than what NBC is offering us.

[Daisy]

NBC handles the Olympics, like it's American Idol, not a sporting event.

This is the key point. After I realised this I just gave up on them. They are not targeting sports fans. We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

No women's PV qualifying, no wDiscus final.

I recently figured out they have a late night program too. And these were both on that show. A big problem with NBC is that we never know when things are going to be televised. No normal person has the time to sit in front of the TV all day. But they cynically calculate if we do not know when they will show the different sections of athletics then we'll see more advertisements.

[sprintzfan]

Here's what I'd like to see done Daisy. One of those online petition type protest/boycott against NBC. I don't how those things typically start, but if one were started where disgruntled fans over this coverage could come together, and as a group decide on specific NBC programs to boycott, I think that kind of thing would definitely catch NBC's eyes and ears. That would be a way to take our anger, and turn it into something that could mess with NBC's bottom line.

I as an individual have already decided that I'm going to email the network, and let them know that as a long time NBC News viewer, I am going to personally boycott the Brain Williams nighthly news and Today show, and much of their other news and news related programming for a while as a result of my unpleasant experiences with these Olympics. As just one person, I know they don't care about me doing that. But I'll feel better about me doing at least something.

But if this kind of boycott, by some means could come into existence, I definitely think that would allow our collective voice to be heard by the suits at NBC. I just wish I had the time and know-how to start such a movement myself. And the willingness to give up my anonymity, for the possible media attention such an effort might eventually attract. (i.e., I don't like my name in the media.)

[Conor Dary]

Yes, a boycott!

I am sure that will work. By the way, I haven't watched anything on NBC, or CBS, or ABC, except football for years, and guess what? They still screw up the Olympics. They don't care...

And I am afraid your gripes are decades late. In was in 1984 it all started to go to TV Olympic hell. They didn't mention the men's 10,000 let alone show any of the race. And yes we track fans got all upset, wrote letters and so on. In 1988 they did show the track all live, early in the morning. And then came TripleCast. But the IOC has demanded more and more money! Show me the MONEY! So there we are.

Except the fact that for NBC the Olympics are an Entertainment package, that has little to do with sport, and you will be at peace..

Listen to Daisy...Our resident Sage.

[Daisy]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

[Conor Dary]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

And it will get better, for a first time operation, the NBC streaming hasn't been that bad.

I remember back in 2000, only 12 years ago, having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

[Marlow]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

Indeed. It turns out that as far as NBC is concerned, not only are the Olympics now just a USA reality show, it's targeted demographic is women who don't even like sports. That not only explains all the non-competition programming, it explains the fascination with a non-sport devotion to things such as synchronized diving.

The irony is that as more and more men ignore their programming (by watching a live web-cast) the worse it's going to get.

[Daisy]

having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

I can remember having to walk to school and back, in three feet of snow, and having to pick up the sack of coal on the way home.

The irony is that as more and more men ignore their programming (by watching a live web-cast) the worse it's going to get.

So true. It's only a matter of time before ballroom dancing will become an Olympic event. In fact, you have to wonder whether Brazil might be the perfect host to have it as a demostration sport.

[Conor Dary]

having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

I can remember having to walk to school and back, in three feet of snow, and having to pick up the sack of coal on the way home.

For you Daisy, watching A Christmas Carol must be like watching a home movie....

[tracknut2012]

I reiterate.

We can complain all we like but they'll never listen, or care. So best for us to ignore them and avoid the frustration.

Fortunately our alternative options are becoming better and better.

And it will get better, for a first time operation, the NBC streaming hasn't been that bad.

I remember back in 2000, only 12 years ago, having to listen to the BBC World Service on short wave to hear the track live.

NBC's streaming is much worse than the BBC version I am watching now. Firstly, I am not getting the constant freezing and log on issues I had when I used the nbcolympics site.

Also, the entire track and field coverage is commercial free unlike nbcolympics.com that shows advertisements every two minutes.

No comparison.

[tracknut2012]

Michael Johnson is one of the BBC commentators.

[Conor Dary]

NBC's streaming is much worse than the BBC version I am watching now. Firstly, I am not getting the constant freezing and log on issues I had when I used the nbcolympics site.

Also, the entire track and field coverage is commercial free unlike nbcolympics.com that shows advertisements every two minutes.

No comparison.

What commercials are you talking about? I am looking at the NBC stream right now. No problems at all watching the 100 semi and everything since. Perfect coverage. No freezing, Stuart Storey and Peter Matthews, what more can you want?

[sprintzfan]

Yes, a boycott!

I am sure that will work.

Are you serious dude? You don't think there is anyway a boycott type action could have any impact at all on what NBC does in this regard? Is that your position and the source of your scarcasm?

If so then I'm rolling my eyes at YOU because clearly you don't squat about the history of viewer driven initiatives, to change a variety of types of network programming decisions.

Want me to give you some examples of intiatives like that, that have worked? Even going back to the "letter writing" era?

Okay I get it. For whatever reason you think you have to just accept any and everything NBC does. You're NBC's complacent peasant. But I think either you're totally unfamiliar with the history of this kind of thing, or so passive in your core nature that you can't even see that this kind of thing doesn't automatically have to be a lost cause.

Fine. You are willing to totally accept and enjoy like some slave, anything NBC throws at us. I'm not that way dude. I call 'em like I see 'em and NBC is full of crap. Full of crap in ways that I strongly suspect are not totally related to their profit and marketing concerns. (e.g., The egos of their on-air talenet is involved here too. Costas' ego as one example.)

Is an online petition-boycott 100% destined to succeed? No, it isn't in my opinion. But neither is it 100% destined to fail. So theoretically I think it's worth a try.

But if you see your kind of defeatism and sense of total powerlessness as a sign of yourself being a realist, then that's on you man. Knock yourself out. But my background and make up is obviously different. I am never one to just mentally throw in the towel on something that I care passionately about. Including the Olympics. Which today by the way I am enjoying IMMENSELY due to non-NBC, non commercial filled, non-buffering foreign networks.

NBC is full of it. I'm not going to lose sleep over that. But I'm not going to put my head in the sand about it either, and pretend like it isn't happening.

back at you man.

[tracknut2012]

NBC's streaming is much worse than the BBC version I am watching now. Firstly, I am not getting the constant freezing and log on issues I had when I used the nbcolympics site.

Also, the entire track and field coverage is commercial free unlike nbcolympics.com that shows advertisements every two minutes.

No comparison.

What commercials are you talking about? I am looking at the NBC stream right now. No problems at all watching the 100 semi and everything since. Perfect coverage. No freezing, Stuart Storey and Peter Matthews, what more can you want?

Are you watching the stream without the commentary? I don't believe that the one shows any commericals.

The main track and field feed yesterday showed tonnes of commercial after each race.

After Bolt's 100m heat yesterday, they showed 3 commercials before getting back to the race.

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

[Grasshopper]

I'm watching the BBC feed this afternoon (thanks for the links), as opposed to the NBC feeds that I've been watching the last couple of days (which are freezing up more often then they're actually running today), and I have to say that it's 100% better (and then some) than the NBC coverage!

[Daisy]

He is defending them to the death.

More likely beaten into submission.

[sprintzfan]

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

Seriously! He really does make me wonder.

I've heard of lobbyists for corporations in Washington. But on a message board?

[Conor Dary]

Yes, a boycott!

I am sure that will work.

Are you serious dude? You don't think there is anyway a boycott type action could have any impact at all on what NBC does in this regard? Is that your position and the source of your scarcasm?

If so then I'm rolling my eyes at YOU because clearly you don't squat about the history of viewer driven initiatives, to change a variety of types of network programming decisions.

Want me to give you some examples of intiatives like that that have worked? Even going back to the "letter writing" era?

Okay I get it. For whatever reason you think you have just accept any and everything NBC does. You're NBC's complacent peasant. But I think either you're totally unfamiliar with the history of this kind of thing, or so passive in your core nature that you can't even see that this kind of thing doesn't automatically have to be a lost cause.

Fine. You are willing to totally accept and enjoy like some slave, anything NBC throws at us. I'm not that way dude. I call 'em like I see 'em and NBC is full of crap. Full of crap in ways that are not totally related to their profit and marketing concerns.

Is an online petition boycott 100% destined to succeed. No, it isn't in my opinion. But neither is it 100% destined to fail. So theoretically I think it's worth a try.

But if you see your kind of defeatism and sense of total powerlessness as a sign of yourself being a realist, then that's on you man. Knock yourself out. But my background and make up is obviously different. I am never one to just mentally throw in the towel on something I care passionately about. Including the Olympics. Which today by the way I am enjoying IMMENSELY.

NBC is full of it. I'm not going to lose sleep over that. But I'm not going to put my head in the sand about it either, and pretend like it isn't happening.

What a wuss I am, Yes, fight, fight, fight. Just like this guy....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus

[Conor Dary]

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

Seriously! He really does make me wonder.

I've heard of lobbyists for corporations in Washington. But on a message board?

Wow, I have been accused of a lot of things here, but nothing as low as this. A Lobbyist! And working for NBC! Makes me want to cry.

[Conor Dary]

He is defending them to the death.

More likely beaten into submission.

Give that a man a cookie!

[sprintzfan]

So if you do go ahead and cry Conor, does that make us both a wuss?

[sprintzfan]

Michael Johnson is one of the BBC commentators.

How do you think he did? I thought he was pretty good. He's gone now, replaced by that former 110 meter hurdler guy. Colin somebody. Ferguson?

But from the little I saw from Johnson today, I prefer him over Ato Boldon. Johnson wasn't shouting and feigning excitment for one thing.

Correction: Johnson is still there. I think I just heard him comment on Kirani James.

[tracknut2012]

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

Seriously! He really does make me wonder.

I've heard of lobbyists for corporations in Washington. But on a message board?

It has happened before. NBC sends them out to the various message boards to put a positive light on things NBC is doing. He can't fool me.

[Conor Dary]

I would not be surprised if Conor works for NBC . He is defending them to the death.

Seriously! He really does make me wonder.

I've heard of lobbyists for corporations in Washington. But on a message board?

It has happened before. NBC sends them out to the various message boards to put a positive light on things NBC is doing. He can't fool me.

Really? How much do they pay? I want my cut.

[gm]

Kvetch, kvetch, kvetch. One gets what one pays for.

I doubt the number of people trying to watch the live stream comes even close to attendance at any pre-season NFL game. Sad, but true.

[tracknut2012]

I watched from 2pm to 6:30pm live on BBC and there was absolutely no break for commercials.

[bruce3404]

I'm watching the BBC feed this afternoon (thanks for the links), as opposed to the NBC feeds that I've been watching the last couple of days (which are freezing up more often then they're actually running today), and I have to say that it's 100% better (and then some) than the NBC coverage!

The Beeb is great, but I sure like all the individual event feeds on
NBC. I like to watch every jump and throw and while the BBC eventually gets to the better performances and/or the "name" athletes, you still don't get to see it all. That said, I've got a sore neck from trying to watch four feeds at once and I've pretty much banned my wife from talking to me when the four ring circus is going full tilt.

[bruce3404]

Kvetch, kvetch, kvetch. One gets what one pays for.

I doubt the number of people trying to watch the live stream comes even close to attendance at any pre-season NFL game. Sad, but true.

You're probably right, but at least all those people have seats assigned and they get to watch the game (unless they're going to Dallas for the SB).

[TN1965]

A big problem with NBC is that we never know when things are going to be televised. No normal person has the time to sit in front of the TV all day. But they cynically calculate if we do not know when they will show the different sections of athletics then we'll see more advertisements.

No, they are just "kindly" selecting the best entertainment package for the people who are too busy with their daily lives to know anything about any event. The viewers are supposed to be interested in what NBC decided to show during the prime time, because they built up the interest with the prerequisite "up close and personal."

[tracknut2012]

A big problem with NBC is that we never know when things are going to be televised. No normal person has the time to sit in front of the TV all day. But they cynically calculate if we do not know when they will show the different sections of athletics then we'll see more advertisements.

l."

Of course they are not going to tell you when they are going to broadcast anything. The whole idea is for you to sit all all evening from 7pm to 12 midnight and watch everything so that ratings can increase.

I wouldn't be surprised if they showed the mens 100m final with Bolt close to midnight. Thanks God for the internet and BBC for allowing us to watch everything live.

Don't for a second think that NBC cares about you

[TN1965]

I guess sarcasm is a difficult thing to convey on a message board.

But you will be surprised how many people are happy to be manipulated, I mean, "taken care of" by corporate interests. This way, they don't have to make any conscious decision.

[Marlow]

Yes, a boycott!
I am sure that will work.

Are you serious dude? You don't think there is anyway a boycott type action could have any impact at all on what NBC does in this regard?

The only boycott that could change anything NBC does is an advertiser-led one. Unless you've got major pull with a GROUP of their advertisers, they won't care.

[tracknut2012]

It is 11pm on the east coast and NBC still hasn't shown the mens 100m final.

[tracknut2012]

NBC finally decided to show the race at 11:15.

At least, I have to give them a little credit. In 2008 Beijing, I think they showed the final at 11:45pm.

[bruce3404]

Damn, no audio on the NBC main feed this morning. Wonder why they fed us audio over the weekend and took it away today. Watching BBC feed for audio, but the video quality is very poor and the better NBC track feed is a couple minutes off the BBC feed.