¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

[DecFan]

As usual, Olorin makes a number of good points. My post implied that the WR is a longshot in these conditions, though an exceptional performance by Eaton today could achieve it. I think that's accurate.

I see the JT as affected less by the weather than the DT or PV. Unless it's pouring rain during the competition, I think Ashton has a good chance to get out near his PR of 60.26.

In the 1500, he not only has Beach but also Detmer. Hopefully those two do well enough in the other events that they all end up in the same heat (or enough athletes drop out that there is only one heat). Unlike many decathletes, Eaton doesn't hate the 1500. If the WR (or the AR) is within his grasp at that point, with the crowd support behind him and other fast 1500 runners in the race, on a cool day, on national television, I think 4:11/12 is possible. Given that he's run 2:32 for 1k, I don't think that's farfetched.

Or think of it this way: At Gotzis in 2001 Sebrle's 1500 PR was 4:28. 9000 points and the WR was within his grasp. He ran 4:21. That wasn't easy and it wasn't likely. But he did it. (And he never ran under 4:28 again). A similar improvement puts Eaton at 4:11.

13.45, 45.5, 4.9, 59, 4:11.0 does it. Again, this is not at all likely. But we might see it happen today.

[unclezadok]

I'm thinking Eaton will find up around 8850-8900 unless the weather gets even worse. But it's a good point that if he is close to the WR he will go for it and is capable of a very good 1500 time. And he may not be running by himself. I have him running around 4:25 if nothing is at stake.
I wonder how far Hardee will throw the javelin. He won't need a good throw in all likelihood. Maybe 150-160.
Clay should get the A standard if he finishes. I don't think anyone else will get it. Beach probably lost it in the HJ.

[ralmcg]

I have calculated that Aston Eaton needs to score 4299 points to break Roman Sebrle's world record, which is 9026. It seems that some of the posters don't believe it can be done unless the weather is good and Eaton can do or exceed his personal bests.

[olorin]

In the 1500, he not only has Beach but also Detmer. Hopefully those two do well enough in the other events that they all end up in the same heat (or enough athletes drop out that there is only one heat). Unlike many decathletes, Eaton doesn't hate the 1500. If the WR (or the AR) is within his grasp at that point, with the crowd support behind him and other fast 1500 runners in the race, on a cool day, on national television, I think 4:11/12 is possible. Given that he's run 2:32 for 1k, I don't think that's farfetched.

Or think of it this way: At Gotzis in 2001 Sebrle's 1500 PR was 4:28. 9000 points and the WR was within his grasp. He ran 4:21. That wasn't easy and it wasn't likely. But he did it. (And he never ran under 4:28 again). A similar improvement puts Eaton at 4:11.

13.45, 45.5, 4.9, 59, 4:11.0 does it. Again, this is not at all likely. But we might see it happen today.

Gotzis was not six weeks before the Olympics and not in these conditions. As Eaton’s coach would you tell him to push for 4:12 and break the WR or settle for ~4:20 and an AR?
Anyway have a good time tonight and keep your great posting. I don’t think that I will join you for the early events as I need a bit of sleep. Hope that when I wake up (probably for the JT) Eaton will be on his way to a WR

[gh]

823 is , but so far all wind readings in flight 2 have been -0.0 which looks just a little bit suspect...

perhaps there were early entries that just defaulted to 0.0? Tehre are only three readings in the whole competition at 0.0 in the final analysis. If you see video that shows the rain, you'll note the absolute verticality. It was virtually dead calm all afternoon.

[Ned Ryerson]

I'm thinking Eaton will find up around 8850-8900 unless the weather gets even worse.

He's going to do better than that. I expect him to be way up on 9000, unless something really goes awry.

[gibson]

ok - i believe that it ain't no bogus mexico olympics, with 0.0 showing in a minor wind storm.

if tomorrow's weather is good, then a world record is on.

doing what he did today in the rain, means that ashton can push the WR into new territory.

[Jackaloupe]

Forget AE's former Jav marks: He's made a quantum improvement--even if his technique continues to follow an inexplicably innovative approach (See ShotPut comments earlier) toward the Weights, w/ no actual RunUp in Jav, just a series of (6-8?) cross-steps--to the 60 m level, good for nearly 100 pts.

[DecFan]

823 is , but so far all wind readings in flight 2 have been -0.0 which looks just a little bit suspect...

perhaps there were early entries that just defaulted to 0.0? Tehre are only three readings in the whole competition at 0.0 in the final analysis. If you see video that shows the rain, you'll note the absolute verticality. It was virtually dead calm all afternoon.

That must have been it. Eaton's 8.23 definitely first came up as 0.0 wind and now it's listed at 0.8.

[j-a-m]

doing what he did today in the rain, means that ashton can push the WR into new territory.

and sooner or later he will, only question is if today or some other time.

[DecFan]

13.70 for Eaton, =decathlon PR 13.71 for Hardee, and near disaster for Clay. What happened?

In the 4th place race, Harlan, Detmer, and Horn are all very close now, but looking to be under 8000.

[Grasshopper]

Clay falls in the hurdles , but gets up an finishes in 16.81 (only 644 pts). He's run several sub-14 races this season.

[DecFan]

Even if he is not hurt, with that hurdles performance Clay is very much in danger of not hitting 8200.
54 5.0 (problematical if it is rainy) 69 4:52 yields 8241. Not much margin for error.

[tm71]

Ashton could still get the AR but the weather is robbing him of any chance for the WR. Trey is playing it safe. He won't be really tested till the javelin. As far as clay it is unlikely he will get the A after the 400 and 110 h.

[Grasshopper]

Ashton could still get the AR but the weather is robbing him of any chance for the WR. Trey is playing it safe. He won't be really tested till the javelin. As far as clay it is unlikely he will get the A after the 400 and 110 h.

I wouldn't say it's unlikely, though it'll certainly take some work. Don't forget, 2 of his strongest events (discus & javelin) are still to come.

[DecFan]

Eaton needs something like 46 / 5.00 in the next two events to have any chance at the WR. If the skies clear before the PV, he could go 5.15. In a downpour, I doubt he can clear 4.90.

[Fortius19]

Clay fell??? noooooooooooooo

Is there any danger of him getting a DQ (= 0 points) in that event?

[DecFan]

Trey is playing it safe. He won't be really tested till the javelin.

I wouldn't call running a decathlon PR in the hurdles playing it safe. Given that Eaton's hurdles PR is 0.27 faster than Hardee's, Trey beat the form chart dramatically in that race.

Weather for the PV will have a big impact, and we don't know if he's going to try to throw the javelin far or not. But through 6 events, Hardee is on a pace that, in comparison to his past performances, would lead to a score of over 8750.

[Deuce]

Clay fell??? noooooooooooooo

Is there any danger of him getting a DQ (= 0 points) in that event?

Results now says he is DQ - http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/ ... sults.aspx

[dvorakfan]

Clay fell??? noooooooooooooo

Is there any danger of him getting a DQ (= 0 points) in that event?

I've read in another forum that he is dq

[olorin]

Ashton could still get the AR but the weather is robbing him of any chance for the WR. Trey is playing it safe. He won't be really tested till the javelin. As far as clay it is unlikely he will get the A after the 400 and 110 h.

I wouldn't say it's unlikely, though it'll certainly take some work. Don't forget, 2 of his strongest events (discus & javelin) are still to come.

This is very sad and means that Clay is likely to be out of the Olympic. He needs 3304 points from his last four events to make the team. When he set his PB he scored in his last four events:
52.74, 5.00, 70.55, 4:50.97 for 3,349. Unfortunately, Clay is not on the same shape. In his Gotiz 2010 he scored only 3,069 that will not be enough. If ever he needed 55m DT is now!
Also poor (relative) performace of Eaton in the 110h. The WR is getting out of reach

ALL these calculations just to read that he is DQ. Very sad for a wonderful athlete. I hope he will return one last time next year but I doubt it

[Grasshopper]

Clay fell??? noooooooooooooo

Is there any danger of him getting a DQ (= 0 points) in that event?

Results now says he is DQ - http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/ ... sults.aspx

I imagine there's a protest in progress, so we'll have to wait to see the DQ holds up or is overturned.

[DecFan]

[quote="olorin"][/quote]

You decided not to sleep!

[DecFan]

Clay fell??? noooooooooooooo

Is there any danger of him getting a DQ (= 0 points) in that event?

Results now says he is DQ - http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/ ... sults.aspx

I imagine there's a protest in progress, so we'll have to wait to see the DQ holds up or is overturned.

Of course, I haven't seen the race. But: The decathletes are only running every other lane. I can't imagine that Clay's fall had any impact on others in the race. No one benefits from this DQ, as no one else can go to London. Come on, now, officials: make the right call.

[HopStepJump]

Clay DQ'd in the hurdles. He's done.

[HopStepJump]

Clay hit the ninth hurdle with his lead leg and pushed over the tenth.

[DecFan]

Clay hit the ninth hurdle with his lead leg and pushed over the tenth.

If that's accurate, there's no basis for an appeal.

[dvorakfan]

Clay hit the ninth hurdle with his lead leg and pushed over the tenth.

Sounds like Helcelet in Götzis this year - he got DQ'd too

[decafan]

Clay pushed over # 10 with his hands. No-brainer call on the DQ. Just a bad situation. Although one has to wonder how well Clay could have done in London based on how he looked in Eugene. This also means the US will only have two decathletes competing in London.

[olorin]

You decided not to sleep!

A chance for a WR in the decathlon does not do well for your sleeping chances. I hope that Eaton appreciate it.

[aaronk]

The results don't show the DQ.
Then again, after the 400 yesterday, the results still showed the totals after event #3!!!
And the 6-event totals aren't up yet!!
(Still shows 5-event totals!!)

[Grasshopper]

The results don't show the DQ.
Then again, after the 400 yesterday, the results still showed the totals after event #3!!!
And the 6-event totals aren't up yet!!
(Still shows 5-event totals!!)

Right-click on the results page and click "refresh".

[DecFan]

The results don't show the DQ.
Then again, after the 400 yesterday, the results still showed the totals after event #3!!!
And the 6-event totals aren't up yet!!
(Still shows 5-event totals!!)

You've got a cache problem or something similar. Try accessing the results through the link on the front page of trackandfieldnews.com. The DQ is showing, as are standings through 6 events.

[TrackCEO]

Photos of Clay approaching the ninth hurdle, stumbling and then getting DQ'd are here:
http://glendora.patch.com/articles/clay ... ll-be-here

I spoke to USATF offical Donald Berry a minute after he raised the yellow flag, and took photos of him making out DQ report.

K E N

[dvorakfan]

Three FOULs in DT for Clay? Did he really do three attempts?