Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)


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Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gktrack » Sun May 13, 2012 11:21 pm

An incredible double at the Texas High School Championships for Abraham Hall of South Grand Prairie H.S., both currently #1's on the 2012 High School leader board:
10.19 (1.3) = 10.27 wind-adjusted
and
20.58 (1.1) = approx. 20.66 wind-adjusted

That's the fastest legal H.S. 100 since J. Demps' 10.01 in 2008, and you'd have to go back to 2007 to find a faster H.S. 200 (B. Nellum, 20.43). For those of you high school historians out there, when was the last time we saw a 100/200 double like this at a H.S. state meet?

Note: I believe he is West Point bound next year, not something we often see with a top prep sprinter.

Following the various college championship meets this weekend, I'm sure that Abraham's times would have placed him in the top 3, in both sprints (on a wind-adjusted basis), in each of the major college conference championships (SEC, Pac12, Big10, Big12) this weekend... if the above didn't give one enough of a perspective.

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248556-2012-UIL-Texas-State-Championships/video/634482-B-100-5A-Hall-runs-US1-1019-at-UIL-Texas-2012

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248556-2012-UIL-Texas-State-Championships/video/634484-B-200-5A-Hall-impress-with-2058-at-UIL-Texas-2012
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby Cooter Brown » Mon May 14, 2012 2:57 pm

Henry Neal back at the '90 TX State Meet had a similar day.

Too lazy to look up his FAT times but I remember the board displaying the hand times being 9.9 & 19.9 before the times were made official.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gm » Mon May 14, 2012 3:16 pm

10.15 and 20.46 IIRC for Neal
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gktrack » Mon May 14, 2012 6:21 pm

w/ Neal's 10.15 being the 100m record for H.S.-only competition.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gh » Thu May 17, 2012 12:04 pm

gktrack wrote:...
Note: I believe he is West Point bound next year, not something we often see with a top prep sprinter.....


Why not? Jesse Owens was Army class of '76!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Press-Phot ... 1039562414

oh wait, he was a Texas kid too, as I recall.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby Tuariki » Thu May 17, 2012 12:39 pm

gh wrote:
gktrack wrote:...
Note: I believe he is West Point bound next year, not something we often see with a top prep sprinter.....


Why not? Jesse Owens was Army class of '76!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Press-Phot ... 1039562414

oh wait, he was a Texas kid too, as I recall.


Hello GH
I have to comment on this.

The photo is the 1976 WestPoint graduation; Jesse Owens is the class "Goat";the last ranking cadet. The bag he is holding contains a $1 from all his fellow graduates.

Graduation speaker that day was President Gerald Ford. At the time I was assistant coach on the Army track team. That day, I was assigned as an MP for the day (Military Police - not Member of Parliament, which was later in my life). I spent about 2 hours at parade rest in front of the main stage with a .45 on my hip. I am pretty sure no other Kiwi has got that in his resume.

And as for Abraham Hall, if he is going to WestPoint, then good on him. Incredible school. Incredible history. And still my favourite place I have ever lived.

Probably not the best environment for wanting to become the world's best sprinter. But if Abraham is looking beyond what will be his all too short a time as a top athlete then he could do a lot worse than West Point. To get into West Point he must also be a good student academically. Good luck to him. And go "The Long Gray Line".
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gktrack » Thu May 17, 2012 12:56 pm

Tuariki, I enjoyed your post... and yes, nearly a straight A student, and I read he didn't really participate in track until high school. He's shown a nice improvement in his times over the past couple years as well... and I'd bet he would hold the West Point 100/200 record before he stepped on site (maybe not Army records though, w/ Charlie Greene, etc.).
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/high-schools/track-and-field-news/headlines/20120427-dent-bound-for-west-point-south-grand-prairie-s-abraham-hall-has-all-the-time-in-the-world-to-run-9.7.ece
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby Tuariki » Thu May 17, 2012 3:41 pm

gktrack wrote:Tuariki, I enjoyed your post... and yes, nearly a straight A student, and I read he didn't really participate in track until high school. He's shown a nice improvement in his times over the past couple years as well... and I'd bet he would hold the West Point 100/200 record before he stepped on site (maybe not Army records though, w/ Charlie Greene, etc.).
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/high-schools/track-and-field-news/headlines/20120427-dent-bound-for-west-point-south-grand-prairie-s-abraham-hall-has-all-the-time-in-the-world-to-run-9.7.ece


He is already well in front of the USMA records. 20.54 and 20.84 (both hand timed)

As for Army wide records I am sure someone probably keeps them but I have no knowledge of them.

Charlie Greene was the West Point's equivalent to the Human Resource Manager when I was there. In 1977 I was thinking of extending for another tour but Charlie checked and told me that if i did I had a 95% chance of being posted to the DMZ in South Korea, which was an unaccompanied (no family) tour of at least 12 months. That didn't thrill me so I got out.

Other Regular Army assistant coaches at West Point when I was there were Mel Pender,Tommy Hill, Tommy Haynes, Mike Shine and Bob Wallis. The late Carleton Crowell was Head Coach. On his death Mel Pender was interim head coach until the appointment of the late John Randolph.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby Tuariki » Thu May 17, 2012 3:58 pm

gktrack wrote:Tuariki, I enjoyed your post... and yes, nearly a straight A student, and I read he didn't really participate in track until high school. He's shown a nice improvement in his times over the past couple years as well... and I'd bet he would hold the West Point 100/200 record before he stepped on site (maybe not Army records though, w/ Charlie Greene, etc.).
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/high-schools/track-and-field-news/headlines/20120427-dent-bound-for-west-point-south-grand-prairie-s-abraham-hall-has-all-the-time-in-the-world-to-run-9.7.ece


He is already well in front of the USMA records. 20.54 and 20.84 (both hand timed)

As for Army wide records I am sure someone probably keeps them but I have no knowledge of them.

Charlie Greene was the West Point's equivalent to the Human Resource Manager when I was there. In 1977 I was thinking of extending for another tour but Charlie checked and told me that if i did I had a 95% chance of being posted to the DMZ in South Korea, which was an unaccompanied (no family) tour of at least 12 months. That didn't thrill me so I got out.

Other Regular Army assistant coaches at West Point when I was there were Mel Pender,Tommy Hill, Tommy Haynes, Mike Shine and Bob Wallis. The late Carleton Crowell was Head Coach. On his death Mel Pender was interim head coach until the appointment of the late John Randolph.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby Dave » Thu May 17, 2012 7:35 pm

Any chance of Marvin Bracy getting healthy enough for a meaningful showdown with this young man?

Since this is almost (correction) an "A standard", has he stated he will go to the trials?
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gktrack » Thu May 17, 2012 8:34 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the 2012 USOT "A" standard was 10.18 ("B"=10.28), and I don't think there are any high schoolers with a legal "A" mark of 10.18?
http://www.usatf.org/events/2012/OlympicTrials-TF/entry/qualifyingStandards.asp

Also, to my knowledge, there are 5 invitees, thus far, to the June Adidas H.S. Dream 100 in New York, with 3-4 remaing slots to be filled... so maybe Abraham will be added to this field and they'd meet there at least???
M. Bracy (FL) - 10.25 (10.05w)
J. Murphy (JAM) - 10.27
R. Bozmans (CO) - 10.27A
L. Whitfield (FL) - 10.31 (10.21w)
K. Muhammad (CA) - 10.54
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby JumboElliott » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:44 pm

What happened to him? I thought he was supposed to go to Army.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby az2004 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:08 am

did he do prep school perhaps, all sort of evidence he intended to go to west point

perhaps he had to straighten out some academic matter though
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gh » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:47 am

from the January edition of T&FN

<<Military service is also in the cards for No. 1 sprinter Abraham Hall, who will attend West Point Prep Academy on his way to the U.S. Military Academy. USMA officials say that for NCAA purposes this counts as active military duty and not a redshirt year.>>
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby az2004 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:04 am

thanks for the update, i ahd been searcing all over the place
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby JumboElliott » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:01 am

gh wrote:from the January edition of T&FN

<<Military service is also in the cards for No. 1 sprinter Abraham Hall, who will attend West Point Prep Academy on his way to the U.S. Military Academy. USMA officials say that for NCAA purposes this counts as active military duty and not a redshirt year.>>

Good. I was hoping that would be the case.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby gktrack » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:22 pm

Thanks much for the post on T&FN's Top Headlines (he's now heading to UCLA)...
http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30500&ATCLID=209370530

I've tried to follow his whereabouts for the past 18 months, with little luck I might add. It will be interesting to see how he responds to this change... and I don't think he's competed much since high school(?).
The only post-HS marks I remember seeing was a 10.49 (2.6) / 21.65 (-0.3) double, running for Army Prep in April 2013, at a small meet at East Stroudsberg, PA.
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Re: Abraham Hall: 10.19/20.58 !!! (#1's on 2012 HS List)

Postby DCSIGMA » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:49 am

OH wow...i remember Army Prep ran 41.1 and 3:13 at penns last year...didn't know he was on that team.
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