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Russian news 2013

Postby pakillo » Tue May 08, 2012 5:30 am

Russia's head coach confirmed that Russian World champions from Daegu are already in the team for the Olympic Games.
List includes eight world champions: Olga Kaniskina, Valeriy Borchin, Sergey Bakulin, Mariya Savinova, Mariya Abakumova, Anna Chicherova, Yuliya Zaripova, Tatyana Chernova and Tatyana Lysenko. These 8 don't have to compete at Russian championships in Cheboksary from July 3-6.
Wild card is given to Yelena Isynbayeva also. First two in each event at Russian Champs will make the team for London (if IAAF stanadard is achieved, in most women's events it will be) and coaches will choose third athlete.
European Champs will not have big role in making Olympic team and no one is obliged to compete at Euros to make the team for London but result at Euros may decide who will be that third athlete.
However, selection for the European Champs is Russian team/club championships which will be held in Sochi May 26-27 and, as they said earlier,World Challenge meet in Moscow.

World walk racing cup in Saransk is crucial for walkers.
For combined events Russian combined events championships in Cheboksary, June 2-3. Only two places left in hepthatlon team for London since Chernova is already in team.
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Tue May 08, 2012 8:27 am

pakillo wrote:For combined events Russian combined events championships in Cheboksary, June 2-3. Only two places left in hepthatlon team for London since Chernova is already in team.


Do we know whether this is a mandatory meeting? This is the weekend after Gotzis, one of the few chance the multi eventers get to earn money and compete against their rivals. So, it will be interesting to see whether the Russian Federation allow Gotzis to be a qualifying meet, like they did in 2008, or whether they have to start in Cheboksary.

The women's final two places should be a fierce battle between Bogdanova, Bolshova and Kurban.
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Tue May 08, 2012 9:43 am

Gabriella wrote:
pakillo wrote:For combined events Russian combined events championships in Cheboksary, June 2-3. Only two places left in hepthatlon team for London since Chernova is already in team.


Do we know whether this is a mandatory meeting? This is the weekend after Gotzis, one of the few chance the multi eventers get to earn money and compete against their rivals. So, it will be interesting to see whether the Russian Federation allow Gotzis to be a qualifying meet, like they did in 2008, or whether they have to start in Cheboksary.

The women's final two places should be a fierce battle between Bogdanova, Bolshova and Kurban.

Not sure if it is a mandatory meeting but Goetzis could be a qualifying meet cause they mention also that world leading result in any event could secure a place for London but they will consider each case separately. Russian Federation is flexible so we'll see.
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Re: Russian news

Postby 26mi235 » Tue May 08, 2012 10:58 am

In the multis the nature of head-to-head competition is different.
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Wed May 09, 2012 2:21 am

Sergey Sviridov,21, at Russian U23 Cup broke national U23 record (Aleksey Sisoyev Osaka WCh ) with 8366 points.
10.88, 7.52, 15.03, 1.94, 48.28, 14.83, 49.01, 4.40, 68.89, 4:25
Artem Lukyanenko was second, 8080.
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Wed May 09, 2012 3:19 am

pakillo wrote:Sergey Sviridov,21, at Russian U23 Cup broke national U23 record (Aleksey Sisoyev Osaka WCh ) with 8366 points.
10.88, 7.52, 15.03, 1.94, 48.28, 14.83, 49.01, 4.40, 68.89, 4:25
Artem Lukyanenko was second, 8080.


Great score! His LJ, SP and JT were very good. Lukyanenko won the bronze in the heptathlon at the world indoors so it will be interesting to see if he can improve; that's a big thrashing he received (though still a PB by nearly 200pts)

Sysoev was progressing nicely in Osaka and then his 5th place in Berlin with 8454, then bam, injured. He really did look like he was going to be a medal candidate until then.
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Re: Russian news

Postby nianchengyu » Wed May 09, 2012 6:07 am

pakillo wrote:Sergey Sviridov,21, at Russian U23 Cup broke national U23 record (Aleksey Sisoyev Osaka WCh ) with 8366 points.
10.88, 7.52, 15.03, 1.94, 48.28, 14.83, 49.01, 4.40, 68.89, 4:25
Artem Lukyanenko was second, 8080.

Could you give me a link,I also want to know WOMEN,
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Wed May 09, 2012 6:24 am

nianchengyu wrote: Could you give me a link,I also want to know WOMEN,

Yana Panteleyeva 6001

This is all I found--- click on "Протоколы" www.runners.ru/region/5086-sviridov-panteleeva.html
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Re: Russian news

Postby nianchengyu » Wed May 09, 2012 6:56 am

thank U A LOT, :D
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Fri May 18, 2012 2:57 am

pakillo wrote:
Gabriella wrote:
pakillo wrote:For combined events Russian combined events championships in Cheboksary, June 2-3. Only two places left in hepthatlon team for London since Chernova is already in team.


Do we know whether this is a mandatory meeting? This is the weekend after Gotzis, one of the few chance the multi eventers get to earn money and compete against their rivals. So, it will be interesting to see whether the Russian Federation allow Gotzis to be a qualifying meet, like they did in 2008, or whether they have to start in Cheboksary.

The women's final two places should be a fierce battle between Bogdanova, Bolshova and Kurban.

Not sure if it is a mandatory meeting but Goetzis could be a qualifying meet cause they mention also that world leading result in any event could secure a place for London but they will consider each case separately. Russian Federation is flexible so we'll see.

Chernova will be the only Russian in Gotzis, others will go to Cheboksary to fight for places for Helsinki and London.
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Fri May 18, 2012 3:11 am

So, Bolshova vs Bogdanova vs Kurban at the moment then. No one else seems to be at that level.

Just posted on the Multi's thread, but keen to see this match up. Bolshova's been improving nicely but still has that poor JT and 200...the same two weak events Bogdanova has. However, Bogdanova improved to 43.62 last year in Talence (only 35.41 in Beijing!) so that could be the significant difference. (Bogdanova is better over the hurdles and SP, Bolshova marginally better in the HJ, they're pretty evenly matched in the LJ, 200 and 800)

No indoor meets from Bogdanova and no outdoor meet yet. Hopefully she isn't injured.
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Re: Russian news

Postby nevetsllim » Sun May 20, 2012 10:25 am

Nazarova 51.95 in Moscow in her first outdoor 400m race in 20 months. Can she perhaps eke out another major champs relay appearance?

Galkina also opened her track season with 4:12.82 for 1500m and 8:59.27 for 3000m.
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Sun May 27, 2012 5:01 am

Sochi (don't have full results)
400m- 1.Yuliya Gushina 50.26 , Kseniya Ustalova 50.48 , Nataliya Nazarova 51.37
LJ- Olga Kucherenko 7.03
SP- Yevgeniya Kolodko 20.22 Olesya Sviridova 19.72
DT- Darya Pischalnikova 67.00
100- Yuliya Katsura 11.37
1500-Yekaterina Gorbunova 4:09.16
100H- Yuliya Kundakova 13.01
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Re: Russian news

Postby nianchengyu » Sun May 27, 2012 6:32 am

pakillo wrote:Sochi (don't have full results)
400m- 1.Yuliya Gushina 50.26 , Kseniya Ustalova 50.48 , Nataliya Nazarova 51.37
LJ- Olga Kucherenko 7.03
SP- Yevgeniya Kolodko 20.22 Olesya Sviridova 19.72
DT- Darya Pischalnikova 67.00
100- Yuliya Katsura 11.37
1500-Yekaterina Gorbunova 4:09.16
100H- Yuliya Kundakova 13.01

Yevgeniya Kolodo already surprised me after her only +18m in 2012WIC,but Olesya Sviridova seems only passed 18m one times,17m is doutful for her, :shock: :shock: :shock: ,the RUS ,BLR,UKR women are really really really hard to know what performances they will show.Very unstable but only some can perform that in big occasions.
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Re: Russian news

Postby nianchengyu » Sun May 27, 2012 6:38 am

pakillo wrote:Sochi (don't have full results)
400m- 1.Yuliya Gushina 50.26 , Kseniya Ustalova 50.48 , Nataliya Nazarova 51.37
LJ- Olga Kucherenko 7.03
SP- Yevgeniya Kolodko 20.22 Olesya Sviridova 19.72
DT- Darya Pischalnikova 67.00
100- Yuliya Katsura 11.37
1500-Yekaterina Gorbunova 4:09.16
100H- Yuliya Kundakova 13.01

where is the link?thank you.
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Sun May 27, 2012 7:04 am

nianchengyu wrote:
pakillo wrote:Sochi (don't have full results)
400m- 1.Yuliya Gushina 50.26 , Kseniya Ustalova 50.48 , Nataliya Nazarova 51.37
LJ- Olga Kucherenko 7.03
SP- Yevgeniya Kolodko 20.22 Olesya Sviridova 19.72
DT- Darya Pischalnikova 67.00
100- Yuliya Katsura 11.37
1500-Yekaterina Gorbunova 4:09.16
100H- Yuliya Kundakova 13.01

where is the link?thank you.


You just need some Cyrillic script knowledge.
http://www.rusathletics.com/nov/news.11419.htm
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Sun May 27, 2012 11:25 am

HJ- Anna Chicherova 1.97, Shustov 2.27
400H- Irina Davidova 53.87
800- Irina Maracheva 1:57.82 Cherkasova 1:59.49
http://runners.ru/images/documents/comandnui.zip
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Re: Russian news

Postby gennady » Sun May 27, 2012 12:18 pm

WL!!! :D 17,53 1,8 Lyukman Adams RUS 24.09.1988 1 Sochi 27.05.2012
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Re: Russian news

Postby t_monk » Sun May 27, 2012 12:21 pm

gennady wrote:WL!!! :D 17,53 1,8 Lyukman Adams RUS 24.09.1988 1 Sochi 27.05.2012


That's impressive :shock:

He's the indoor bronze medalist right?
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Re: Russian news

Postby tandfman » Sun May 27, 2012 12:25 pm

I believe that 53.87 is a WL in the women's 400H.
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Re: Russian news

Postby t_monk » Sun May 27, 2012 12:30 pm

I wonder what Krivoshopka and Kapachinskya are going to open up with in the 400m.

And will Fedoriva go back to the 200 or will she stay focused on the 400?

Gushina 50.26 and Ustalova 50.48 puts them 3rd and 4th respectively on the 400m list for the year thus far.

I'm guessing they are also training for European Champs right?
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:23 am

Sergey Shubenkov (21) ran a new Russian record in the 110 hurdles - 13.18!
http://meeting-herouville.com/pdf/resul ... e_2012.pdf

Tatyana Lebedeva (35) will not take part in any competition until Russian Champs in July.
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Re: Russian news

Postby t_monk » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:22 am

I think this year to an extent will be a dress rehearsal for next year's World Championships in Russia.
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Re: Russian news

Postby nianchengyu » Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:52 pm

how about their combined select meeting in 2 and 3 in June?link I cannot find. :)
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:31 am

t_monk wrote:I wonder what Krivoshopka and Kapachinskya are going to open up with in the 400m.?


Kapachinskaya opened with a 51.20 but I think the weather may have been poor as the men's HJ results were low. Silnov 2.21...

Just checked. The report says it was pouring with rain. Firova was second with 51.51 and old stalwart Nazarova third in 51.57
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:41 am

nianchengyu wrote:how about their combined select meeting in 2 and 3 in June?link I cannot find. :)


I am trying to find these too! Trying to get off rusathletics.com and trackandfield.ru but very difficult on my iPad!

I do know that it's overcast and raining in Cheboksary today though
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:45 am

Gabriella wrote:
nianchengyu wrote:how about their combined select meeting in 2 and 3 in June?link I cannot find. :)


I am trying to find these too! Trying to get off rusathletics.com and trackandfield.ru but very difficult on my iPad!

I do know that it's overcast and raining in Cheboksary today though

Do not try until it's finished tonight :) Very often it's not possible to find live results from Russian competitions.
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:53 am

Papilloma you must post them as soon as you find them :D
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Re: Russian news

Postby nianchengyu » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:37 am

Irina Tarasova,19.11m
Anna Omarova,18.55m SB,should go on to inprove to get a oly place,RUS has three to pass 19m this year and add experienced Anna Avdeyeva,quite fierce in NC this year.
Yevgeniya Solovyova,1986 born,18.03m PB,the former 52.81p heptathlete in 2007 who improve best 18.71m indoors.
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Re: Russian news

Postby pakillo » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:10 am

Very surprising.
1.Kristina Savitskaya(21) 6681! 2.Olga Kurban 6528, 3.Yekaterina Bolshova 6466

1.Sergey Sviridov 8088, 2.Vasiliy Harlamov 8059, 3.Ilya Shkurinev 8030

Drozdov, Pogorelov, Bogdanova...did not finish

results--- http://runners.ru/images/documents/mnogobor2012.pdf
photos--- http://www.runners.ru/multi/photo/categ ... svoeg.html
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Re: Russian news

Postby trevorp » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:42 am

An enormous PB by Savitskaya (up from 5989 in 2011), a return to 2008 form for Kurban and a substantial improvement by Bolshova (up from 5738 in 2010, but remember that 4896i Pentathlon earlier this year).

If events unfold as anticipated, there will be an enormous fight for the bronze medal in London.
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Re: Russian news

Postby nevetsllim » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:28 am

Gabriella wrote:
t_monk wrote:I wonder what Krivoshopka and Kapachinskya are going to open up with in the 400m.?


Kapachinskaya opened with a 51.20 but I think the weather may have been poor as the men's HJ results were low. Silnov 2.21...

Just checked. The report says it was pouring with rain. Firova was second with 51.51 and old stalwart Nazarova third in 51.57


Apparently Shustov didn't jump again after 2.18m but I'm not overly convinced at Silnov's early-season form as he only cleared 2.21m in better conditions a few weeks ago.
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Re: Russian news

Postby 72 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:09 am

692 points improvement since last year; our KJT must be real envious!!

Wonder what this 21 year old( next week) will do outside Russia. Sorry, but rather sceptical.

I bet our resident multi-event experts can give us the lowdown on other athletes enormous 12 month improvements.
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Re: Russian news

Postby lapsus » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:51 am

72 wrote:692 points improvement since last year; our KJT must be real envious!!

Wonder what this 21 year old( next week) will do outside Russia. Sorry, but rather sceptical.

I bet our resident multi-event experts can give us the lowdown on other athletes enormous 12 month improvements.


Well, I'm not really a multi-event expert, but I did look at some IAAF biographies of past greats.

Carolina Kluft improved 520 points from 2001 to 2002 (ages 18 to 19)
Jackie Joyner-Kersee improved 440 points, 6718 to 7158, from 1985 to 1986 (ages 22 to 23)
Natalya Dobrynska improved 406 points, 6327 to 6733, from 2007 to 2008 (ages 25 to 26)
Eunice Barber improved 962 points, 5378 to 6340, from 1994 to 1995 (ages 19 to 20)
Hyleas Fountain improved 467 points, 6035 to 6502, from 2004 to 2005 (ages 23 to 24)
Denise Lewis improved 513 points, 5812 to 6325, from 1992 to 1994 (ages 19 to 21) with one non-PB year in between

It looks like for high class, 6700+ point multievent athletes it is almost more common than not to have a big 400+ point jump from year to year at some point in their careers.
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Re: Russian news

Postby TimRoy » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:27 pm

For what it's worth, Sergey Sviridov had a 764-point improvement on his decathlon pb earlier this year, from 7601 to 8365. Even his winning score this weekend (8088)is a 487-point improvement. He's also 21.
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:54 am

It's interesting the Russian Federation nominated Savitskaya and Kurban straight away rather that wait. I understand Savitskaya with that great performance but I would have waited till later in the season and seen how Bolshova and Kurban's form progresses. The latter has had a big improvement this year so I would have probably put her in rather than Kurban.

Bogdanova ran just 14.30 and HJed 1.76 before retiring, lying in 9th place. I've only just found out she DNF in the pentathlon indoors too. She was up there with Bolshova after two events, running 8.26 over 60mh and 1.86 in the HJ, before a mediocre 13.98 SP and then she pulled out. Whatever injuryt it was obviously hindered her here.

Bolshova I guess will be nominated for the Europeans, but I doubt Bogdanova can find form before then, unless she is nominated based on last years form.

Sviridov is the only male nomination thus far so Drozdov, Pogorelov and Kukyanenko have an opportunity to qualify still.
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Re: Russian news

Postby nianchengyu » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:18 am

Gabriella wrote:It's interesting the Russian Federation nominated Savitskaya and Kurban straight away rather that wait. I understand Savitskaya with that great performance but I would have waited till later in the season and seen how Bolshova and Kurban's form progresses. The latter has had a big improvement this year so I would have probably put her in rather than Kurban.

Bogdanova ran just 14.30 and HJed 1.76 before retiring, lying in 9th place. I've only just found out she DNF in the pentathlon indoors too. She was up there with Bolshova after two events, running 8.26 over 60mh and 1.86 in the HJ, before a mediocre 13.98 SP and then she pulled out. Whatever injuryt it was obviously hindered her here.

Bolshova I guess will be nominated for the Europeans, but I doubt Bogdanova can find form before then, unless she is nominated based on last years form.

Sviridov is the only male nomination thus far so Drozdov, Pogorelov and Kukyanenko have an opportunity to qualify still.

COULD YOU show us the specific news for the no selecting Bolshova,a 6466p hep and 1.92m HJ cannot take part in oly, :( ,the season is early,making that decision is stupid.
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Re: Russian news

Postby TimRoy » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:28 am

Aren't they only allowed to send 3 athletes?

Chernova, Savitskaya, Kurban - who do you drop to include Bolshova?
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:16 am

nianchengyu, check out runners.ru

TomRoy, I would have nominated Chernova & Savitskaya & waited till later in the season to see who is preparing better, Kurban or Bolshova. Bolshova has more uplift in the SP & JT whereas I dont see Kurban improving significantly.

Kharlamov & Skurenev have been selected for the Europeans in the decathlon & have the opportunity to qualify for London there. Logvinenko has been penciled in for the Euro's but is not a definite. They are leaving the door open for Drozdov & London until nearer the time & will check his training (he has the qualifer from 2011) Pogorelov said he is "99% certain" his career is over; he has persistent injuries.

Bolshova & fourth placer Panteleva are nominated for the Europeans. They thought Bolshova would qualify but went strictly with the first two who beat the qualifier.There is no mention of a 3rd nomination for the Europeans.
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Re: Russian news

Postby Gabriella » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:24 am

It seems Chernova is still playing the mind games with Ennis, in a recent interview:

Interviewer - your main rival, Ennis, has already set a PB at the beginning of the season, are you surprised?

Chernova - In general, I am surprised! Last year she did the same, she started well and improved quickly but in the end she failed. I dont know why she is beating her PBs now. She may be forcing her events too much and wants to show she is at a high level and ready to go. Well, this isnt important. The main thing is I know I can improve and tighten my disciplines to get extra points.
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