preston wrote:A not yet 20 year old with PB's of 11.19, 22.69, 13.27 is NOT a heptathlete (Ashton Eaton could be anything; he's scary!), she's a sprinter! We don't think of Sally Pearson as a heptathlete, and Schippers PB's for age are better than Michelle Perry - who is NO LONGER a heptathlete, but won worlds 1 year after finishing top 8 in the hep at the Olympics and backed it up by winning in Osaka. Ginnie Crawford is more hep than Schippers!!!
Michelle Perry only placed 14th with 6124p,very poor throwings and HJ,LJ also a problem for her.I thought if not so many great players in hurdles,she must give up much more early. here are pb of Ginnie Crawford ,why said she is more hep than dafne,any other field events for her? 100 metres hurdles:12.45 New York City, New York, United States ,June 2, 2007 60 metres :7.21s Fayetteville, Arkansas, United States ,March 10, 2006 100 metres:11.10s ,Eugene, Oregon, United States ,May 14, 2006 200 metres:23.29s,Los Angeles, California, United States,April 29, 2006
She wants to be a heptathlete so for her a national record on 100 is (a bit) less important than the hep record. 2012 predictions: 100 11.07 200 22.62 hep 6419 (13.22 1.69 14.4 22.79 6.39 42.13 2.15.55) javelin 44.57
i just want you to show her individual marks in 2014 when she broke the LJ NR 6.75m,and also 2013,thanks a lot. As for me,I do not good at predictions,in this year if she reached individuals pb of 13.10,1.72,14.50,22.50,6.45,44.00,2.15.00,11.05s and 6439p series of 13.17-1.68-14.33-22.55-6.39-42.91-2.16.27, I will be so happy.
Last year she could focus entirely on the sprints after the heptathlons in Götzis and at the EC juniors and this allowed significant improvement in the sprints in august. This year from what I heard it'll be Götzis, 200 at EC, heptathlon in London. Therefore she'll needs to keep training all the events so I wouldn't be surprised if her sprint times stay more or less the same (7.18 indoors extrapolates to 11.1-11.2).
MDelano wrote:Last year she could focus entirely on the sprints after the heptathlons in Götzis and at the EC juniors and this allowed significant improvement in the sprints in august. This year from what I heard it'll be Götzis, 200 at EC, heptathlon in London. Therefore she'll needs to keep training all the events so I wouldn't be surprised if her sprint times stay more or less the same (7.18 indoors extrapolates to 11.1-11.2).
from my knowing,her 100m pb 11.19/11.16+2.1 just 3weeks after EJC AND before EJC she already ran 11.13s/+2.200m is only runinng in hep before WC which lacked oppents.
I agree. Physically she looks far more developed and muscular, even more so than Gambetta who is by far the better thrower. Dafne looks athletic while Gambetta looks like a regular girl, even slightly under conditioned. [/quote] yeah,dafne is athletic,fit for hep from figure point,however, i do not simply divided her into early developer,at her beginning time of track and field,Samuel,her compariot with same age to dafne,early years also started as all-around,mush better than her,very very ordinary until 2008,ranking first in NED in junior hep in NED way,5235 Dafne Schippers 15/06/92 Hellas Enschede 21/09/08 14,16 * 1,63 * 12,04[3kg] * 24,96 * 5,50 * 34,05 * 2.29,41 * 0,9 * 1,0 * -0,6 , this year she ran 100m 12.01s/+3.0. in 2009,she taking part in EJC with a result of 5507p,5507 Dafne Schippers NED 15/06/1992 4 Novi Sad 26/07/2009 ( 14.05/2.2 - 1.69 - 12.01 - 24.21/0.9 / 5.62/-1.0 - 34.04 - 2:23.01 ) In a word, it is hard to predict dafne, her coach bennema paid enough attention for her not to train too heavily and too much comp,she quit EC in 2010 and had a thought no WC in 2011,finally only 200m and relay . for Gambetta,even not develop encough,that strong for me to see her at EJC,about 1.82 and 78-84kg and even a little stronger than dobrynska.
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nianchengyu wrote:I agree. Physically she looks far more developed and muscular, even more so than Gambetta who is by far the better thrower. Dafne looks athletic while Gambetta looks like a regular girl, even slightly under conditioned.
yeah,dafne is athletic,fit for hep from figure point,however, i do not simply divided her into early developer,at her beginning time of track and field,Samuel,her compariot with same age to dafne,early years also started as all-around,mush better than her,very very ordinary until 2008,ranking first in NED in junior hep in NED way,5235 Dafne Schippers 15/06/92 Hellas Enschede 21/09/08 14,16 * 1,63 * 12,04[3kg] * 24,96 * 5,50 * 34,05 * 2.29,41 * 0,9 * 1,0 * -0,6 , this year she ran 100m 12.01s/+3.0. in 2009,she taking part in EJC with a result of 5507p,5507 Dafne Schippers NED 15/06/1992 4 Novi Sad 26/07/2009 ( 14.05/2.2 - 1.69 - 12.01 - 24.21/0.9 / 5.62/-1.0 - 34.04 - 2:23.01 ) In a word, it is hard to predict dafne, her coach bennema paid enough attention for her not to train too heavily and too much comp,she quit EC in 2010 and had a thought no WC in 2011,finally only 200m and relay . for Gambetta,even not develop encough,that strong for me to see her at EJC,about 1.80 and 75-80kg and even a little stronger than dobrynska.[/quote]
I don't know about the multi's, but regarding the sprints, Jamile Samuel and Schippers always had their 'battles'. Sometimes Samuel won, sometimes Schippers. But as of lately it seems Schippers has Jamiles' number. And i think it will stay that way unless Jamile at least fixes her start + first 30 meters, but more important she has to stay healthy.
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No where in the thread is it predicted that 11.19 WILL translate to 10.6. NO WHERE. What is nonsense is you trying to build straw man.[/quote] anything has his possiblitity because things are hard to predict, let alone she did this just for a heptathlete, although i do not predict how fast she will go in future.
This is last year dafne show in EJC by european athletics website, very specific and even content for whole day,you can see her in all discipline except for HJ for her i cannot watch. The competion containing Katarina Thompson,Sara Gambetta and other potentials,more importantly, this is one of best hep for junior level,3 went over 6000p: http://eurovision.digotel.com/ea/index.html
There are some information about going to athletics way and process of dafne : From her 9th SCHIPPERS is already found on the athletics track. As a little girl sat the Utrechtse initially on tennis, but on the tennis court, they say not enough progress. During a walk of the tennis club and she got her fell over once the advice at talent at an Athletics Association to go look. She became hooked on the sport and became a member of the Utrecht Athletics Association Hellas. There she trained mainly in the sprints, the all-around she did "there". The athlete had a lot of fun in the sport and did it all "for fun". From the C-Juniors all what was more seriously. She went more and more specific train and initially traveled once per week to Papendal for Central trainings. Meanwhile the multi talent several days per week can be found at the national sports complex. She trains there since two years under the guidance of ex-coach Bart Bennema decathlete and talent development.Because boaters on a Loot falls school, her sport good to combine with her school work. For example, the athlete has no gym, giving them more time to train. The last few weeks she has studied especially hard for her contests between the end by exams. HAVO-diploma within her as she has, she wants to start in september with training physiotherapy. The heptathlete than in a classroom, where she just like Utrecht topsport rightly on a Loot school flexible handle the busy training and competition schedules of athletes. So it is the athletes made possible to retrieve certain boxes later in a period when they are absent in connection with contests or trainingstages. And will desperately need that flexibility to continue work boaters to its goal: to grow to the International Summit on all-around area.Dafne SCHIPPERS on ASICS Golden Spike in LeidenThe coming period stands for boaters in the sign of hard training. In addition, she wants to run some races to keep the sharpness erin. The main goal for this year is the WJK in Canada. There she wants to peaks. On the way there, she has participated in the ASICS Golden Spike in Leiden (11.56 at the 100 m) and she will be acting on the Dutch Championships juniors. And then it must happen. Know exactly what they can expect in Canada, not the multi talent. "I am particularly busy with myself and my own progression. What is happening internationally on the all-around and where I stand on the rankings, I do not know. " Bennema know: "at this moment, they appear at the top of the rankings, so she is definitely medal contender at." He also praises her match mentality: "if it has to, then she does it. They can focus on very well himself. " Skippers to the international adventure begins not inexperienced. Last year she represented Netherlands already on the heptathlon at the European Championships for juniors. The result that she was as B-junior in the European acquiring: a fourth spot with 5507 topveld conquered them points, at that time a personal record for the heptathlete. In Canada they would like a good all-around at the beginning of may in Desenzano rotate and trying to improve himself. Most enhance opportunities sees the heptathlete in the Javelin and the 100 m hurdles. And who knows she can herself, just like earlier this season, on surprise further components.
About 40minutes after 100mH,she erntered 150m with samuel,but not a good result although with bad conditon,last year she ran 16.96s with 1.6m/s. 150 meter W Time :15:12 Heat:5 Wind : -1.8 1 21 Samuel Jamile 76 PHNS 17.18 2 22 Schippers Dafne 92 HLLS 17.35 3 191 Vassell Kadene 89 PHNS 17.79 4 148 Babel Janice 92 PHNS 17.85 5 115 Lubbers Eva 92 AKU 17.87 6 263 Goor Myrte 89 SPRN 18.87
Sprint 150 meters Surprise of the day was the rare defeat Dafne SCHIPPERS leed on the 150 meters. Jamile Samuel, like Dafne member of the AA-Drink Talents team record in the 200 m troefde the Dutch keeper. Despite the strong headwind (-1.8 m/s) yet she knew dropping a personal record. That bodes well for Samuel's summer season. SCHIPPERS had recently won the 100 m hurdles, this went to own say "reasonable, technically not super but time fell with it. Very shortly thereafter the 150 m, that was definitely not what I had hoped. For the start was the body already empty. Apparently there is still too much fatigue in the body. Now on to Horn! " Samuel ran to blush with her handsome performance afterwards.
here are some : Different story SCHIPPERS had a very different story, though she was, on reflection, not too depressed. I am quite sick ' after the world indoor championships and the restoration took more time than I had been expecting. The training went well, but I have to train harder by by the backwardness that I had accumulated. After the 100 m hurdles (which she won in at-1,0 – red 13,53.) already this afternoon I felt empty. From blood test showed that I am still not optimal. Start twice within a half hour is currently asking too much. ' In the three weeks to the international all-around in Götzis – where they form preservation must show to qualify for the Olympics – there will be more in the programme. But there are also competitions on her program Friday: Javelin throw at a Saturday meeting, long jump and hurdles at the aerosol fingerprint Job circuit contest in Hoorn.
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when I saw she said her HJ around 1.80m in training, a little ,then look luck to her to do it in hep : Reports: ' this makes me stronger Dafne SCHIPPERS ' (AA-Drink Talents)07 may 2012 Two years in a row won the Ter Specke Jar Dafne SCHIPPERS. Saturday she opened the Olympic Athletics summer with a defeat against Jamile Samuel on the 150 meters. Samuel ran 17,18 seconds, boatmen 17,35. Recently won SCHIPPERS in Lisse called the 100 metre hurdles (13,53) already also ran that not to your liking. Afterwards she wanted to just alone. Angry at himself, ambitious if she is. While she knows so well that there are reasons. 1.Do you not also agree to lose yourself? Dafne SCHIPPERS: not ' perhaps. For myself then. Because Jamile ran very strong, she has won more than deserved. I am unhappy about my own race. Also if I had won, I was been dissatisfied. But it also makes me stronger. After Istanbul (the WORLD CUP-indoor in March, ed.) I was sick. Therefore I have behind schedule. Recently at a blood test also showed that it still not quite in order. Two races in a half hour is also not good, but I say afterwards. Not technically good, already attacked the ran hurdles time not even against. I was really after that race to vibrate. There is still too much fatigue in sleeves, I'm still not enough equipped. It is only right to know. Preferably I always want coaching, but peace is important. 2. 'Since the first april am you temporarily stopped your studies. That saves right?' That free time is already filled by anything and everything. I can now go to bed earlier, I don't need to study more until late at night. I have so more rest. But the media wanting everything and that we limit (SCHIPPERS and her coach Bart Bennema, ed.) as much as possible. But also sponsors have wishes. This day that day, and that is just for an athlete. very much. 3. 'How was the internship in Spain?' For the first time after Istanbul really went better again. I've trained very hard, not so much in Spain because a backlog you can if not even catch up. I've done less size in comparison with the same stage a year ago, also because it now something was later in the year. It went really better, faster and higher than ever. Also with the knee went well, I even about 1.80 meters, jumped a personal record. The last day I got up again, but that is what last away again. '
link: http://nos.nl/video/377371-meerkampers-strijden-voor-os-in-gotzis http://nos.nl/video/377668-sintnicolaas-in-vorm-in-gotzis.html 6360 Dafne Schippers NED 15/06/1992 7 Götzis 27/05/2012 (13.43/+0.0 - 1.73 - 13.82 - 22.73/+1.9 / 6.49/-0.3 - 40.41 - 2:18.66 6298 Nadine Broersen NED 29/04/1990 10 Götzis 27/05/2012 13.82/+0.8 - 1.85 - 13.62 - 25.73/+0.4 / 6.09/+2.8 - 54.97 - 2:19.59 Noted 1cm beyond to outdoor HJ pb,2cm to her LJ pb,making up her up and down in last year WJC.After JV,dafne has a chance to break 6423p NR which need 2.14s 800m but slow down to 2.18.66s,not a good time at all. More interesting to see, her training partner Nadine Broersen strongest events/1.85m,54.97m=1998p,dafne only 1566p /432p gap are exactly her weakest parts,almost 400p improvement for Nadine Broersen,beyond 6280p national requirement for london. 1.Video showed she only has 3 steps approach for 1.73m HJ, much shorter than others,and her cross bar technique is, no proper words to describle, let alone tahe advantage of her speed.So I annot imagine when she only jump 1.63m in WJC last year for 1.79m Dutch talent. 2.As her coach said,her flexibility need more improvement although better than before,her cross hurdles technique is not well。Of course, this means more spaces to improve，:D