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Re: Who cares......

Postby odelltrclan » Sat May 12, 2012 10:35 am

What difference does the time really matter? 1:55, 1:57, 1:59. These are races and watching races is enjoyable. Watching competitors, strategies, etc., and the joy that winning brings to those who are successful.

Sure, a few races may be better and more exciting, but that is not to say that almost any race cannot be enjoyed.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby mump boy » Sat May 12, 2012 2:47 pm

odelltrclan wrote:What difference does the time really matter? 1:55, 1:57, 1:59. These are races and watching races is enjoyable. Watching competitors, strategies, etc., and the joy that winning brings to those who are successful.

Sure, a few races may be better and more exciting, but that is not to say that almost any race cannot be enjoyed.


in this instance times are important because it means that these ladies are ready to race this year. If Jelimo had come back and won outside 2m it wouldn't indicate she was ready to take on Semenya or Savinova who we know can run 1.55. Pamela Jelimo showing she is some way to recapturing her old form and the way in which she won the race show us that this comeback is for real. The fact that a newcomer ran 1.57 and an old timer opened with her fastest ever all add the the excitement of this event in 2012 :D :D

by shivfan » 12 May 2012 09:09

I don't understand the need to promote another event at the expense of the men's 100m....


I'll stop promoting this event when the rest of the board stops acting like the mens sprints, Allyson Felix and Sanya Richards are the only show in town
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Re: Who cares......

Postby Flumpy » Sat May 12, 2012 5:01 pm

Don't forget VCB although she's in another event far mor exciting than the Men's 100m.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby odelltrclan » Sat May 12, 2012 7:03 pm

mump boy wrote:in this instance times are important because it means that these ladies are ready to race this year. - - - -
I'll stop promoting this event when the rest of the board stops acting like the mens sprints, Allyson Felix and Sanya Richards are the only show in town


I think Mump boy that you missed the point at what I was saying. You don't have to be concerned with times to care about an event and enjoy watching it. Times are a bonus, if you really care about that. Yes, what happened was a good indication of what might be time wise for the event, but in the absence of that, even if times were slightly slower, the competition was good to watch.

That was an outstanding meet all around. Great times and great competition. This bodes well for a great summer!
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Re: Who cares......

Postby 72 » Sun May 13, 2012 12:22 am

To assist those of us who regard track and field as 40 events, individually, I would love to see a a totally separate section and then we could ignore the endless stuff between the various sprint obsessives, and those posters whose concentration levels allows of vast enjoyment in 800m and above , or even the field events, would not need to bother about remarks about so called "promoting" other events.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby mump boy » Sun May 13, 2012 1:30 am

odelltrclan wrote:
mump boy wrote:in this instance times are important because it means that these ladies are ready to race this year. - - - -
I'll stop promoting this event when the rest of the board stops acting like the mens sprints, Allyson Felix and Sanya Richards are the only show in town


I think Mump boy that you missed the point at what I was saying. You don't have to be concerned with times to care about an event and enjoy watching it. Times are a bonus, if you really care about that. Yes, what happened was a good indication of what might be time wise for the event, but in the absence of that, even if times were slightly slower, the competition was good to watch.

That was an outstanding meet all around. Great times and great competition. This bodes well for a great summer!


Sorry, i completely agree :D
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Re: Who cares......

Postby Flumpy » Sun May 13, 2012 3:55 am

But of they run 1.54 all the better, right? :mrgreen:
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Re: Who cares......

Postby Smoke » Sun May 13, 2012 8:41 am

LOL no matter how much you 2 rant and rave, the w800 holds no excitement. I noticed she dropped 1:56, great time. But where's the drama and intrigue? Whereas, Blake drops 9.8, Bolt drops 9.8, Asafa 9.8, Gatlin reenters the fray with a 9.8 and beats Asafa. Walter Dix 9.8w. And the 4x1 is looking a lot more competitive than in the past 3 years. Sorry guys. you are on a Quixote mission with this dead horse. And I didn't even throw in the 110s where the bar is so high in the US, the best races will be on the circuit not the Games.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby nevetsllim » Sun May 13, 2012 9:09 am

Smoke wrote:LOL no matter how much you 2 rant and rave, the w800 holds no excitement. I noticed she dropped 1:56, great time. But where's the drama and intrigue? Whereas, Blake drops 9.8, Bolt drops 9.8, Asafa 9.8, Gatlin reenters the fray with a 9.8 and beats Asafa. Walter Dix 9.8w. And the 4x1 is looking a lot more competitive than in the past 3 years. Sorry guys. you are on a Quixote mission with this dead horse. And I didn't even throw in the 110s where the bar is so high in the US, the best races will be on the circuit not the Games.


Because they will spend most of the summer dodging each other and it's not like Gatlin and the major champs version of Powell will challenge Bolt when he gets into peak form. And the fact Gatlin will probably make the US team leaves a very sour taste too.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby odelltrclan » Sun May 13, 2012 9:17 am

Smoke wrote:LOL no matter how much you 2 rant and rave, the w800 holds no excitement. I noticed she dropped 1:56, great time. But where's the drama and intrigue? Whereas, Blake drops 9.8, Bolt drops 9.8, Asafa 9.8, Gatlin reenters the fray with a 9.8 and beats Asafa. Walter Dix 9.8w. And the 4x1 is looking a lot more competitive than in the past 3 years. Sorry guys. you are on a Quixote mission with this dead horse. And I didn't even throw in the 110s where the bar is so high in the US, the best races will be on the circuit not the Games.


Smoke, you crack me up! I am just as excited as you about the 100 and sprint events as you! But you know what? I find enjoyment in a host of other events as well. You really ought to expand your horizons a little. There is so much more out there that can bring you joy in life. Stop limiting yourself.

You remind me of a scene in the Count of Monte Cristo. Mercedes is reminding Fernand that when he was a child he was upset that Edmond found more joy in a whistle he had received for Christmas than Fernand was with a pony he received. You are Fernand. If you can't find enjoyment outside of your little world, that is your problem. We get all the enjoyment you get but have a whole lot more! :lol:
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Re: Who cares......

Postby mump boy » Sun May 13, 2012 9:59 am

I have very little interest in random people running 9.80 it seams just about anyone can do it these days why not mention

Nesta Carter
Mike Rodgers
Richard Thompson
Michael Frater
Ngonidzashe Makusha

because we all know that these ludicrous times count for nothing. In deagu 10.09 was good enough for a medal and it wasn't from any of the above.

The 800 has drama, personalities, controversy and a plethora of potential medalists and for those of us who can contemplate being excited by an event that isn't dominated by US/JAM men it is going to be one of the highlights of this year.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby Flumpy » Sun May 13, 2012 10:45 am

Double post.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby Flumpy » Sun May 13, 2012 10:56 am

Smoke wrote:LOL no matter how much you 2 rant and rave, the w800 holds no excitement. I noticed she dropped 1:56, great time. But where's the drama and intrigue? Whereas, Blake drops 9.8, Bolt drops 9.8, Asafa 9.8, Gatlin reenters the fray with a 9.8 and beats Asafa. Walter Dix 9.8w. And the 4x1 is looking a lot more competitive than in the past 3 years. Sorry guys. you are on a Quixote mission with this dead horse. And I didn't even throw in the 110s where the bar is so high in the US, the best races will be on the circuit not the Games.


http://tinyurl.com/cqb9up9

From the men's 100m to the men's 4x100m and all the way to the men's 110m.

Such variety :roll:
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Re: Who cares......

Postby John G » Sun May 13, 2012 11:02 am

Here's why Mump is right .. .. .. .. ..

We've got the 4 most recent global champions going into a champs at or near their peak in an event where pacing and tactics add a level of excitement most events can't match. Savinova v Semenya v Jelimo v Jepkosgei is like Juantorena v Ovett v Coe v Cruz. Throw in the new Ethiopian is like adding a young Konchellah into the mix. For sprint aficionados it's like having Lewis, Christie, Bailey and Greene all peaking in the same year.

Then we've got as a sub-plot of the battle to be GB and US #1 - I think that will see an American running 1:55 and a Brit running 1:56 (Jackson?).

Can't wait.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby nevetsllim » Sun May 13, 2012 1:33 pm

And the great thing is we're almost guaranteed a fast final and the leading protagonists will all bring something different to the final. Jelimo and Jepkosgei love to run off a fast pace while Savinova, in particular, is superb at running even-paced races. Semenya seems to be able to do both.

If Bolt is in top shape, I really can't see anyone beating him. Yes, the m100 could be the greatest ever race in terms of depth but it could easily be run in pouring rain and only a couple of guys break 10-sec. With the women's 800m, it's possible to make a case for any of the top four and the semi-finals are always a thrill.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby mump boy » Sun May 13, 2012 2:07 pm

John G wrote: Brit running 1:56 (Jackson?).

Can't wait.


i totally agree about Jackson, i thought she was going to be a big gallumph but it turns out she's a pacey number :D

the w800 is once again going to be the event of the trials as well

4 into 3 just doesn't go :-( and one of Meadows, Okoro, Jackson, Simpson (who were all sub 2 last year) won't be going. Throw in Lyndsey Sharpe who is improving all the time and the amazing Jessica Judd (who won't make the team but only knows how to run an aggressive race and will substantially revise her pb this year) and there is possibility of a race to remember
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Re: Who cares......

Postby DentyCracker » Sun May 13, 2012 2:43 pm

Magiso is the fly in the ointment. She has real speed. 23.90, 52.09 and 1:59.17 last year as a Junior. Future WR holder if managed properly IMHO.
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Re: Who cares......

Postby Flumpy » Mon May 14, 2012 12:13 am

Look, a Jamaican getting in on the action :shock:

The whole world is getting on the w800m bandwagon :mrgreen:
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Re: Who cares......

Postby DentyCracker » Mon May 14, 2012 2:13 am

Flumpy wrote:Look, a Jamaican getting in on the action :shock:

The whole world is getting on the w800m bandwagon :mrgreen:

Boss y'all need to chill. I was pulling for Quirot to beat Wachtel and Wodars when you guys were, well not watching (I presume you're a bit younger than me) I love the 800. Always have. Quirot is the one I thought could get to JK's record as she was pretty quick over 400, 49.xx iirc. LOL :mrgreen:
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Re: Who cares......

Postby mump boy » Mon May 14, 2012 3:57 am

DentyCracker wrote:Boss y'all need to chill. I was pulling for Quirot to beat Wachtel and Wodars when you guys were, well not watching (I presume you're a bit younger than me) I love the 800. Always have. Quirot is the one I thought could get to JK's record as she was pretty quick over 400, 49.xx iirc. LOL :mrgreen:


i can assure you were watching in 87 :D
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Re: Who cares......

Postby mump boy » Mon May 14, 2012 3:58 am

DentyCracker wrote:Boss y'all need to chill. I was pulling for Quirot to beat Wachtel and Wodars when you guys were, well not watching (I presume you're a bit younger than me) I love the 800. Always have. Quirot is the one I thought could get to JK's record as she was pretty quick over 400, 49.xx iirc. LOL :mrgreen:


i can assure you we were watching in 87 :D
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