Marvin Bracy (HS, Florida) 55m 6.08

[kellits2gnv]

Heck, think that's something? In an interview a few days ago he said he wanted to run 9.9 at texas relays..

Should he NOT want to run 9.9? It's not out the realm of possibility!

I was more shocked at the idea that hes aiming to run, what would be a substantial HSR, in the middle of the season. Its completely rarified air for a high school sprinter to say they want to run sub 10 in March, let alone sub 10 at all.

[Marlow]

Its completely rarified air for a high school sprinter to say they want to run sub 10 in March, let alone sub 10 at all.

Except for the fact that the Florida HS outdoor season is more than half over and he's shown what kind of shape he's in already.

[Dave]

We will know soon enough about what sort of condition he can be in with the Texas Relays next week.

[Dutra5]

Have any of you ever spoken to a HS kid? They tend to lack a bit of perspective.

[bman]

Except for the fact that the Florida HS outdoor season is more than half over and he's shown what kind of shape he's in already.

What was Demps running at this point of his senior year?

[Marlow]

What was Demps running at this point of his senior year?

10.17 at the Florida Relays. Bracy was faster indoors.

[Dave]

Let's hope Bracy has better luck/coaching than Rynell Parsons.

There was a kid with phenomenal tools that seemed to implode due to injury or poor coaching.

[trackonthebrain]

He (Parsons) also tested positive, if I recall, prior to entering college.

[DentyCracker]

Parsons has asthma and had not declared his inhaler if I recall correctly

[JumboElliott]

Let's hope Bracy has better luck/coaching than Rynell Parsons.

There was a kid with phenomenal tools that seemed to implode due to injury or poor coaching.

:Scratches head: You know that you're talking about a 21 year old?

[Dave]

Let's hope Bracy has better luck/coaching than Rynell Parsons.

There was a kid with phenomenal tools that seemed to implode due to injury or poor coaching.

:Scratches head: You know that you're talking about a 21 year old?

I do. Have you noticed that Mr. Parsons hasn't come close to his best HS times since going to LSU? Look at the LSU site: http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.db ... ID=3673080

This is far more ordinary than you would have expected for the young man when you look back at his early HS times.

[Marlow]

Have you noticed that Mr. Parsons hasn't come close to his best HS times since going to LSU? Look at the LSU site

Here's what I see:

2010
Battled a hamstring injury throughout the indoor season ... Received a redshirt during the outdoor season.

2011
Posted a 2011 wind-legal seasonal best of 10.28
Pulled up with an injury in the conference final
Won the 100-meter title in his outdoor debut at the LSU Tiger Relays with a seasonal-best wind-aided time of 10.24 in the final
clocked a wind-aided 10.24 at the Texas Relays




Now go back and look at Michael Johnson's first few years at Baylor . . .
You have dismissed Parsons way too soon.

[Dave]

Have you noticed that Mr. Parsons hasn't come close to his best HS times since going to LSU? Look at the LSU site

Here's what I see:

2010
Battled a hamstring injury throughout the indoor season ... Received a redshirt during the outdoor season.

2011
Posted a 2011 wind-legal seasonal best of 10.28
Pulled up with an injury in the conference final
Won the 100-meter title in his outdoor debut at the LSU Tiger Relays with a seasonal-best wind-aided time of 10.24 in the final
clocked a wind-aided 10.24 at the Texas Relays




Now go back and look at Michael Johnson's first few years at Baylor . . .
You have dismissed Parsons way too soon.

I hope you are correct. I would love to see him really improve over his HS era performances. Also, let it be noted that I did mention injury in my first comment.

My real hope here is that Mr. Bracy is well enough coached that he can run to his potential and continue to improve. We all see that it doesn't always work out.

[Marlow]

My real hope here is that Mr. Bracy is well enough coached that he can run to his potential and continue to improve. We all see that it doesn't always work out.

My totally not-substantiated observation is that early maturers tend to continue to age faster than others, which makes them more injury-prone.

[Dave]

My real hope here is that Mr. Bracy is well enough coached that he can run to his potential and continue to improve. We all see that it doesn't always work out.

My totally not-substantiated observation is that early maturers tend to continue to age faster than others, which makes them more injury-prone.

Given your coaching experience, I'll assume you are correct.

[mal]

My real hope here is that Mr. Bracy is well enough coached that he can run to his potential and continue to improve. We all see that it doesn't always work out.

My totally not-substantiated observation is that early maturers tend to continue to age faster than others, which makes them more injury-prone.

I don't know his physical maturity, maybe you do, unless you are saying that running fast at an early age is a sign of early maturation.

Exhibit 1. Usain Bolt.

Now how did that work out for him?

[26mi235]

When assessing the implications of the 6.08, it was run with a speed that would normally get a sprinter a 6.13-6.17. The starting jump is not easily replicated but the speed is the important element and why we care.

[Marlow]

I don't know his physical maturity, maybe you do, unless you are saying that running fast at an early age is a sign of early maturation.
Exhibit 1. Usain Bolt.
Now how did that work out for him?

Some athletic prodigies look very 'cut/defined/built' well before 18. Bracy's physique is mature. In pictures I've seen of Bolt at 16, he looked like a string bean.

[mal]

I don't know his physical maturity, maybe you do, unless you are saying that running fast at an early age is a sign of early maturation.
Exhibit 1. Usain Bolt.
Now how did that work out for him?

Some athletic prodigies look very 'cut/defined/built' well before 18. Bracy's physique is mature. In pictures I've seen of Bolt at 16, he looked like a string bean.

You guys think too much. Christie ran 10.48 as a 24 year old. And I suspect he was pretty 'mature' / 'cut'. Then he got faster.

I'm happy to lay back and watch how he develops or doesn't.

[Marlow]

You guys think too much. Christie ran 10.48 as a 24 year old. And I suspect he was pretty 'mature' / 'cut'. Then he got faster.
I'm happy to lay back and watch how he develops or doesn't.

You're talking about a completely different kind of individual.

[mal]

You guys think too much. Christie ran 10.48 as a 24 year old. And I suspect he was pretty 'mature' / 'cut'. Then he got faster.
I'm happy to lay back and watch how he develops or doesn't.

You're talking about a completely different kind of individual.

Enlighten me?

He developed dramatically after the age of 24.

Surprised?

And to be pedantic, completely different is a part of being an individual.

[Dave]

I see that Bracy is entered in the 100m at the Texas Relays. It will be interesting to see what the young man can do.

[JumboElliott]

Bracy ran a windy (2.1) 10.37 today in the prelims. Video isn't the best, but it looks like he eased up quite a bit at the end. That kid is an incredibly advanced starter for an 18 year old.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul5RBOixaTw

[Dave]

Bracy ran a windy (2.1) 10.37 today in the prelims. Video isn't the best, but it looks like he eased up quite a bit at the end. That kid is an incredibly advanced starter for an 18 year old.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul5RBOixaTw

Looks like he will be able to improve on that in the final. It will help for him to have someone to run with him.

[JumboElliott]

Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.

[Marlow]

Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.

'Basically' that's a 10.07 with +2.0, a 10.12 with +1.0 and 10.17 with 0.0.
Not too shabby.

[Giant Panda]

It's hard to have consecutive years of good health at any age. If everything comes together right at an early stage there's a component of luck involved in that too. When you add longevity of course some are going to hit a wall as that can happen any time and the more years you compete the less likely you're always number one. It might not be the waning prowess of precocious kids so much as others putting missteps behind them and taking their turn. If you peak at 17 and can't say the same at 25 I don't know that's any more unusual than breaking out at 22 and being done by 30. A lot can happen year on year and usually does. And of course you must factor in the senior ranks being ultimately more competitive because you have multiple cohorts of athletes eligible all the time. Youth and experience each has a chance, and you wouldn't expect the same guy to win every year even if you raced your peers in perpetuity.

[Giant Panda]

Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.

'Basically' that's a 10.07 with +2.0, a 10.12 with +1.0 and 10.17 with 0.0.
Not too shabby.

He ran a pair of 10.0s with 2m/s in June and July last year so he's showing a very consistent baseline to be opening with the same in March. His legal best was in line with the best youth times ever run although technically he wasn't a youth by a couple of weeks. Historically speaking the junior record hasn't always been run by the eldest kids, though. Demps and Brown were both 18 when they ran their 10.01, although they each had another year of eligibility and Bracy does not. He's in a similar boat to Blake, who actually got injured in the equivalent year. I think the windy marks last year fall in the same range as Blake's 10.11. If Bracy is the real deal a 9.9 is to be expected, soon.

[Dave]

Windy (2.4) 10.06 today. 9.9x certainly isn't out of the question.

'Basically' that's a 10.07 with +2.0, a 10.12 with +1.0 and 10.17 with 0.0.
Not too shabby.

Between this and the 6.08, this kid is the real deal. I can see him making the final of the olympic trials.

[kellits2gnv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... tGOEZ5wVuM

video of the 10.06 effort.

[RQ]

Bracy is entered in 100m at Florida Relays on Friday too. 3PM race start.

Along with cousin Levonte Whitfield(jr. Jones, Orlando) 10.39w this year. He reopened up recruiting process after verbally committing to Miami(10.31PB)
Kendall Williams(so, Stanton, Jacksonville) 10.39w
Anthony Brown(sr, Hillsborough) 10.50

Sad to see Dade County public schools will not be able to compete due to restrictions by the school board on travel during religious holiday. Artie Burns is running incredibly this year 13.35 and 36.06.

Live results will be posted here http://www.deltatiming.com/results.aspx

[RQ]

Just checked schedule.

Demps is entered in 100m(3:40PM) that follows Bracy's race. Should be an electrifying 40 minutes of racing!

[Dave]

Just checked schedule.

Demps is entered in 100m(3:40PM) that follows Bracy's race. Should be an electrifying 40 minutes of racing!

Too bad that Bracy can't run in the later race with Demps.

[mal]

Bracy had a poor-ish start, went straight up, and was up and down about 3 times in his 10.06.

All he needs is a good group to get a better feel for racing and running under more pressure and he will have a breakthrough. Not improvement. Breakthrough.

[rainy.here]

I can see a wind legal 9.9 from Bracy if he gets a good race.