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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby El Toro » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:02 pm

Smoke wrote:..What's wrong with the haircut?! We like it. ........Sally is far from an achiever, she's very talented, one of the fastest hurdlers in the world and it shows.
love how John handled these three races and won. Now onto the meat of the season!


Smoke, the haircut comment was just a bit of bullshitting, so don't take that seriously. :lol:

I think you got the wrong end of the stick about Sally. Sure she is talented but I've detected a certain view in articles about her lately that seem to imply this is the primary reason she is successful. My view is that what makes her different from equally talented athletes is the rigour of her training and coaching approach.

Talent without achievement is nothing and I've seen plenty of it wasted, so calling her an achiever is not a slight but a compliment, at least from my point of view. Sorry if it seems the opposite - my writing is upsetting everybody today. :(

I agree with you about John. It was good to see him do so well. I've always supported him and never understood why so many seem to dislike him despite his achievements. Roll on those 44s!

As for missing a catchup, I'll PM you and jlt later about that.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jlt » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:26 pm

I guess I'm more a track guy El Toro but I like to follow good field event competitions; you're right of course about the lack of updates re progress (after say three jumps)......that's a standard issue/problem in our sport. They did of course many announcements such as "Frayne's jump of 8.00 the first 8m jump of competition, it takes him into the lead" etc.

Our sport so reliant on the conditions, given a warm, still night (as we had the week before eve day) it could/would have been so much better and I've no doubt Cole runs 48-high, Sally goes under 23, Stephenson runs 45-low and Frayne does 8.25 (not to mention Asbel running 3:32 and Rudisha 1:43...) etc. The big thing we missed yesterday was not having a fit and in form Mitchell jumping against Frayne; could have been special.

I heard pretty dire comments about the track/facility etc but apart from the wind (seemingly it is quite exposed) is it really so bad? I quite like it.....
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby El Toro » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:41 pm

jlt, the treatment of field events only annoys me so much because the technology is available to provide live results.

The data is trivial and now mobile internet access is trivial as well, so it should be easy to work with web updates, or better, sit there with a smart phone app that beeps a different sound when the different athletes you have marked to watch are ready to jump/throw then see results, change in place between rounds, call up their stats etc It's a nice dream....

I agree with you about the possible improvements in performance with better weather - at least there wasn't hail like there was one year :shock:

I think a lot of negativity about the track from Melbournians is due to most of them believing they should still be at Olympic Park. The decision to kick them out for football was bad enough but was made worse with some of the early government proposals which included lights that would not have been TV standard. I'm not sure if the back straight grandstand was going to be as big as it is now or if it was planned at all.

So people are a bit cynical about the government boasting about a "world class facility" when they spent as little as possible to get rid of the sport from it historic location and to shut people up.

Whether the track is compromised will depend on your event and preferences but the orientation was set because of the existing football grandstand and general lack of space due to the Grand Prix requirements. It might have been better East-West for cross winds on the straights with PV inside the curve to still allow tail winds for safer jumping.

Despite all that history, it is bright and shiny and new and you can walk all the way around without complicated manouvres, so that's good. :lol:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:40 am

El Toro wrote:jlt, the treatment of field events only annoys me so much because the technology is available to provide live results.

Live results didn't work at all during D1... perhaps AA were giving virtual spectators the same results experience that those at the track got.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:16 pm

Revised Olympic squad after the trials:

Youcef Abdi (NSW, 3000m Steeplechase)
Luke Adams (NSW, 50km walk)
Jarrod Bannister (Vic, javelin)
Collis Birmingham (Vic, 5000m)
Lauren Boden (ACT, 400m hurdles)
Alana Boyd (WA, pole vault)
Zoe Buckman (Vic, 1500m)
Brendan Cole (ACT, 400m Hurdles)
Nathan Deakes (ACT, 50km walk)
Henry Frayne (Qld, long jump, triple jump)
Benn Harradine (Vic, discus)
Regan Lamble (ACT, 20km walk)
Beki Lee (NSW, 20km walk)
Kaila McKnight (Vic, 1500m)
Kim Mickle (WA, javelin)
Craig Mottram (VIC, 5000m)
Liz Parnov (WA, pole vault)
Sally Pearson (Qld, 100m hurdles)
Jeff Riseley (VIC, 800m)
Dani Samuels (NSW, discus)
Ben St Lawrence (NSW, 10,000m)
Claire Tallent (VIC, 20km walk)
Jared Tallent (Vic, 20km walk, 50km walk)
Mitchell Watt (Qld, long jump)
Julian Wruck (Vic, discus)
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:48 pm

Congrats to Jake Stein, the World Youth Champs star, who set a NJR for U20 Decathlon over the weekend in Melbourne. Given the winds, he's likely to up this score before too long.

100 11.45 (-2.0)
LJ 6.99 (-1.6)
SP 16.94
HJ 1.95
400 52.42

110H 14.57 (-1.3)
DIS 52.21
PV 3.85
JAV 60.41
1500 5-01.60

Total: 7637 (beating another promising type David Brock on 7045)

In the seniors:

1 Stephen Cain 7844
2 Scott McLaren NZL 7601
3 Martin Brockman GBR 7331
4 Kyle McCarthy 7205
5 Jarrod Sims 7171

and Simone Carre took out the women's decathlon with 6428
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:21 pm

Jake Stein broke his national U20 decathlon record in Sydney today. His 7886 score places him #7 on the all-time junior list. 17 year old Ced Dubler also did well with 7504 in second.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Fri May 04, 2012 10:22 pm

Great day for Australian men's discus throwing, with Benn Harradine improving his AR to 67.53 in Townsville and Scott Martin also throwing an A-qualifier (65.63) in Maui. The men's 4x100 team have inched closer to an Olympics berth too, running 38.84 in Japan this week, with another race to come at the Kawasaki meet tomorrow.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby GMH454 » Sat May 05, 2012 2:14 pm

Oustanding result for Ben, go to be the first record for Townsville.

Great to see he is coming into his peak and is over some of the isssues from this summer.

Got a photo standing next to him at the Sydney meet. I am 180cm and 107kg and solid (still compete), looked small next to Ben (remind me never to stand next to Harting).

Good luck to Scott, three discus throwers would be awesome.( be positive)
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby unclezadok » Sat May 05, 2012 2:20 pm

Vault-emort wrote:Jake Stein broke his national U20 decathlon record in Sydney today. His 7886 score places him #7 on the all-time junior list. 17 year old Ced Dubler also did well with 7504 in second.


Ced? Short for...Cedrick?
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby JumboElliott » Sat May 05, 2012 5:12 pm

Not quite on the world class level (yet), but Sam McEntee (Perth) is showing tremendous range for Villanova in his first full collegiate season. He split sub 1:50 last week on an 800 at the Penn Relays last week, ran a 3:57.X mile indoors and then ran away with the conference 5000m in his debut tonight. Kid's a stud.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun May 06, 2012 9:15 pm

unclezadok wrote:Ced? Short for...Cedrick?

Yep - Cedric
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Sat May 12, 2012 2:14 pm

More A-qualifiers for London over the last couple of days:

Steve Hooker vaulted 5.72 in an officially-sanctioned meet in a Perth warehouse.
Ryan Gregson ran 3.33.92 at the Doha but still finished outside the top 10 over 1500.
Dale Stevenson (SP) threw 20.63 in South Carolina.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sat May 12, 2012 4:54 pm

Plus Kath Mitchell won the jav at Saarbrucken with 62.46m and Chris Erickson got the 20k Walk A mark in Russia
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby GMH454 » Sat May 12, 2012 5:32 pm

Kath Mitchell and Dale great marks, the throws will be well represented ..

really hope they can find the room for two more
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby AS » Tue May 15, 2012 2:44 pm

And a big PB from Jordan Willamsz in US overnight: 3.36.74

Previous PB: 3.39.74 (800m PB is 1:47.34 from last year)

The lad is still 19. Turns 20 in August, perhaps after debuting at Olympics if he can drop a further 1.2 seconds.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Tue May 15, 2012 4:47 pm

AS wrote:And a big PB from Jordan Willamsz in US overnight: 3.36.74

Also Sam McEntee ran 3:36.81 PB behind him.

Mr Bideau says Jordy is running again at Eagle Rock on Friday night.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Wed May 16, 2012 1:13 pm

Men's 4x4 team consisting of Solomon, Offereins, Cole and Thomas ran 3.01.5 last night in Daegu, giving them a good chance of securing a berth in London. No splits available but Solomon in particular looked fantastic running the lead leg and might go close to an individual qualifier if he can get into some good races over the next few weeks.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Fri May 25, 2012 3:38 pm

Well done to Kath Mitchell for her PB 64.34 for 3rd (on countback) in Ostrava overnight. Pretty much guaranteed an Olympic berth now and great to see a near veteran in career best form when so many other similarly talented athletes might have given it away by now.

Love it when these things happen in an Olympic year.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby GMH454 » Fri May 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Today (Saturday a good piece in the Australian's magazine, on Sally Pearson), no new info, but thought the writer captured the "suffer no fools" part of Sally's personality, and her competiveness (flashback to her 400 relay run in Delhi)

nice photos, Addidas will be pleased
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Fri May 25, 2012 8:36 pm

Mitch Watt just cleared 8.21 (R2) in his 2012 debut at the Gold Coast.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jackbean » Sat May 26, 2012 1:07 am

Tamsyn Manou did some greAt whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jackbean » Sat May 26, 2012 1:08 am

Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jackbean » Sat May 26, 2012 1:09 am

Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Athleticsimaging » Sat May 26, 2012 2:37 am

jackbean wrote:Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:

jackbean wrote:Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:

jackbean wrote:Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:

Well, whiny, repetitive bitches are obviously thick on the ground around here as well....
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Sat May 26, 2012 10:34 pm

If I'm not mistaken, Mitchell's 64.34 makes her #3 Aussie all-time behind Louise Currey (silver 1996 OG) and Joanna Stone (World Cup winner in 1998) and now puts her ahead of Kim Mickle (6th 2011 WC, preselected for London).

The men's 4x100 team had another hit-out in Taiwan yesterday but failed to break 39 seconds, so it remains to be seen whether their recent efforts in Japan will be enough to see them qualify for London. None of the boys ran quicker than 10.3 in the individual 100 either, including Josh Ross, who looked like he was on the verge of qualifying after his windy 10.16 the other week.

Meanwhile, Steffensen runs tonight in Hengelo and Renshaw, Gregson, Abdi and Buckman are running in Rabat.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun May 27, 2012 8:05 pm

Steve Solomon story here - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/l ... 6368707844 - he will commence medicine at Stanford Uni later in the year.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Athleticsimaging » Tue May 29, 2012 4:57 am

A special post to bring tears of loss and yearinng to Speedster's eyes.

Something I found on a still-in-use public service filing cabinet a few years ago:-

Hey, cobber!
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby pakillo » Wed May 30, 2012 1:54 pm

What's the latest on Jana Pittman? First I heard she quit track and switches to rowing (which I didn't like at all), now I see something that she will try 800m in the future. Definitely would be good to watch her on track.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby mal » Wed May 30, 2012 2:25 pm

A flake unfortunately
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby mal » Wed May 30, 2012 2:50 pm

Vault-emort wrote:Steve Solomon story here - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/l ... 6368707844 - he will commence medicine at Stanford Uni later in the year.


Did he already complete his Australian degree?

Cos while in Oz you go straight to med school after high school, you need an undergrad degree first in the USA. At 19, he would have had to have been on an accelerated program.
I assume of course that he is a very smart dude.
What's the story?
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Wed May 30, 2012 4:48 pm

pakillo wrote:What's the latest on Jana Pittman? First I heard she quit track and switches to rowing (which I didn't like at all), now I see something that she will try 800m in the future. Definitely would be good to watch her on track.


I too prefer rowing as a fall-back position in case a track career becomes impossible due to injury.

So the logical thing would be to train for 400/800 flat through our winter (after the current base of rowing x-training) and - only if her condition allows it - attempt 400H. Even if not up to her PB flat speed, she'd almost certainly challenge for a spot in any Aussie 4x4 squad.

I was at the track (Melbourne 2005?) where she ran a pretty comfortable 2-04 800 (her first I think) so she certainly has some potential in the longer event.

She's got nothing to lose - still one of our best ever athletes with 2 WC golds (and all the rest) - so good on her for having a go.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Wed May 30, 2012 4:58 pm

Speaking of Solomon, the World Junior 400 would be a pretty good race with all these in the final:

44.45 Santos DOM
45.19 Bailey USA
45.46 Mogami BOT
45.54 Solomon AUS
45.62 Palomenque COL

I think he might be running in Brisvegas this weekend, along with Sally Pearson.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby GMH454 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:21 pm

Sally running a 100H and 100m in Brisbane today, sure hope the weather is better than Southern Australia today ..
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:27 pm

Current Brissie temp of 21 degrees is much better than my 8 degrees.. :)
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:19 pm

Sally Pearson won Brisbane 100H with 12.74 (-0.4)

ETA - and she won the 100 flat too (11.31)

Bring on Oslo! :D
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby El Toro » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:31 pm

Rowing may not be such a bad idea but Jana would not be the first Australian 400m hurdler to do so.

Kimberly Crow was a good junior 400m hurdler with a track PB at age 16 list by AA of:
59.05 Kimberley Crow V 090885 1 Melbourne 8 Dec 01

This was faster than the 59.75 that Jana had at that age but I couldn't see Kim carving 4.5s off that time in the next 2 years like Jana did with her beastly track talent.

Nevertheless, Kim has medalled at rowing (well, sculling actually) in recent WC and is a chance of gold at this year's Olympics. Rowing profile at
http://www.rowingaustralia.com.au/hp_at ... row-k.shtm

Jana's track talent won't necessarily translate to boats as she doesn't have the extra height of Kim or the background in the highly technical requirements of sculling or necessarily the ability to fit in with teammates in crews. She would have plenty of raw strength though and it would be interesting what she could achieve. Not many foot injuries in rowing!

One additonal Jana related item: apparently, with her being out of the OG, her parents sold their OG stadium tickets to Lauren Boden's mum and dad to let them watch their daughter's debut.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby AS » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:38 pm

Vault-emort wrote:Speaking of Solomon... I think he might be running in Brisvegas this weekend, along with Sally Pearson.


No sign of Solomon in Brissie. 400m result was:

1 Offerins, Ben 26 WA 46.11
2 Mulcahy, Kurt 23 Nsw 46.48
3 Milburn, Joel 26 Nsw 46.71
4 Moore, Kevin 22 Nsw 46.91
5 Wroe, Sean 27 Vic 47.13
6 Buchan, Jarryd 18 Aus 47.39

Andrew McCabe did run another speedy-ish 200m: 20.70 (-0.6) as did 18yo Monica Brennan: 23.73 (-0.8)

https://assets.imgstg.com/assets/consol ... _qaws3.pdf
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:13 pm

AS wrote:
Vault-emort wrote:Speaking of Solomon... I think he might be running in Brisvegas this weekend, along with Sally Pearson.

No sign of Solomon in Brissie. 400m result was:

Hello stranger! :)

Mulcahy was the only bit of good news from that 400.. though Tristan Thomas' 49.3 A-standard hurdles in Switzerland overnight helps bolster the 4x4 squad.

Solomon, Steffensen, Offereins probably the main chances for the team so - with Cole & Thomas also in the mix - do they add Mulcahy? Plus maybe Wroe (with the appendicitis taken into consideration) for his experience?

PS - You're bringing up the rear in the T&F Fantasy League - courtesy of your leftover team from last year! :(
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Jacksf » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:30 pm

I thought Mulcahy gave up track for Aussie football or something.....
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