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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby nianchengyu » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:23 am

dunedine wrote:Sally Pearson swept to 12.50 secs in the hurdles a little earlier on, looks like Yordanka Donkova's WR will come under a heavy barrage this season!

yeah ,Sally Pearson ran 12.49s with +0.8m/s,fabulous work.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby t_monk » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:19 am

nianchengyu wrote:
dunedine wrote:Sally Pearson swept to 12.50 secs in the hurdles a little earlier on, looks like Yordanka Donkova's WR will come under a heavy barrage this season!

yeah ,Sally Pearson ran 12.49s with +0.8m/s,fabulous work.


This girl is in scary form.... 0_o
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:23 pm

El Toro wrote:In an Unreported Drama after the race, Torrence was apparently repeatedly punched in the kidneys by an unknown assailant who reportedly yelled "I want my @$%ing new pair of shoes and singlet!" during the vicious attack. :twisted:

Wasn't me. I have an alibi. I was..err..standing in the concourse wearing my short shorts and blocking someone's view...
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:27 pm

dunedine wrote:Sally Pearson swept to 12.50 secs in the hurdles a little earlier on, looks like Yordanka Donkova's WR will come under a heavy barrage this season!

Looks like Susanna Kallur's WR has another week on the record books..
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Speedster » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:48 pm

Amazing time, I'm sure her coach will be analysing her race to see how close she is to the 60mh WR. Looking at the lists for this year, barring disaster, she's a lock for the gold. US Champ Castlin is likely to be her main challenger.

In some ways her performance in the flat 60m will be more interesting, if she chooses to run it.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jlt » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:44 pm

Speedster wrote:In some ways her performance in the flat 60m will be more interesting, if she chooses to run it.

Her husband told me she's only running 60mH in Istanbul....
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby El Toro » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:06 pm

Well, Day 2 was moist but generally better conditions for the tracksters than Day 1 while the field eventers had a bit of a hard time. Before I went into the stadium, I walked around to the warmup area to watch the paid of the discus throwers warming up in the wet but they had already marshalled, so I watched Sally Pearson warming up instead.

I normally manage to happen across her coach to get a time prediction beforehand but not this time as they are working, so I stand a few metres away and watch her superiority in all respects; focus, listening, drills, speed, everything. It might seem heresy now that she has run 12.28 but she is in no way the best physical talent I have seen in Australia but she certainly has the best attitude and commitment and a coaching environment that has an equal commitment to constant improvement. There's 10x more talent than achievers and she is definitely one of the achievers.

I spent most of my time on the back straight having my view blocked due to AA's failure to take my advice on the No Standing rule at the fenceline as well as the delightful addition of magical umbrellas into the mix. Now I say magical because apparently they take up no space around them and are invisible to others :twisted: I'm with gh on this, ban the f$%^ers, cause this ain't interclub with 10 men and a dog.

Due to the aforementioned and antiquated signage at the WPV I spent a confused first half of the program trying to follow the competition in PV, DT, M LJ and W HJ through random glimpses of distance/height boards and random announcements over the PA. I could better follow the competition by reading the results this morning than I could by being there right near the competition. If that is the case, why bother paying the money and going through the hassle of attending in real life?

The PV was interesting as it was the first time that I had seen the two Parnov's in the same comp. They both, on occasion achieved massive height but consistency in penetration was the problem, esp for Vicky. The conditions weren't that bad compared to the men's the previous night but everybody seemed to have problems by none more so than Boyd who lost on countback to Liz at 4.45 after both failed at 4.55, which was also the meet record set by Emma George way back in 1997. That Boyd failed didn't surprise me - she is no Sally let alone a medal prospect in London.

100H happened on the other side of the track but the time did not surprise me as it did Sally. After watching her warm up and seeing a reply of the Sydney 12.66 the night before, I expected something around 12.50 and got it. Did anybody else run in that event? If they did I didn't notice them.

Men's LJ got the crowd excited but no A qualifiers. Maybe the conditions were too good for them?

W LJ was the last event on the back straight and the winds had picked up by then. Kerrie Perkins looked consistently fast on the runway even when she hit her best and winning jump of 6.41 into a 2.4 headwind.

Boden looked two levels above the rest but did not get quite replicate training partner, Brendand Cole's efforts from the previous night.

W1500 was a great race to the wire with Kaila McNight catching Zoe Buckman right on the line to win by a 10th.

Men's 400 and Solomon failed to overtake eveybody in the straight, with John Steffensen staying strong and in control. His post victory shirt change didn't get much reaction from the crowd and maybe wouldn't even if he ran 2 seconds faster. Well smoke deserved a beer but didn't get one. Why? Well look what he did to Steffenson's hair the last time he tippled :lol:

The the concluding event, the men's 5000, brought the reappearance of rain, or as I like to think of it, the tears of a baby Jesus poked in the eye by a friggin trackside umbrella. The rain increased in intensity proportionate to the race itself as eventually Mottram and Birmingham, the usurper, battled it out by themselves over the last mile. Mottram proved his re-emergence with a turn of speed unknown to Birmingham's legs and cleared away, saluting the crowd and celebrating down the main straight. Post finish, there was enough enthusiasm from him and the crowd to support a victory lap with regular time out for hugs. A great way to finish the night. The time? Didn't matter.

So, was it worth paying for a trip to a less than world class venue in a compromised location with so many fields with limited or sadly, no depth at all while needing to seek out the internets after the fact to understand what happened? Probably not. Would I do it again? Only if there's a 12.1x 100H on the cards.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jlt » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:49 pm

What an incredibly negative piece El Toro. Why the snipping comments about Alana Boyd and men's LJ? I think indeed you should save your time and your money (if you paid) and stay away next year. I doubt anyone will miss you, am sure your negativity (did you complain about umbrellas all night?) is a downside for anyone sitting near you. For what it's worth I don't mind the venue and, despite the weather, enjoyed the two days. And I followed results on the large electronic scoreboard on the first turn.

Yours in track & field,
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Smoke » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:08 pm

Day 2 was wet but far better and warmer than day 1. Jit and Bull I'm disappointed you didn't come speak, I watched the hole race from the backstretch.
What's wrong with the haircut?! We like it. Taking the Aussies a few minutes to adjust though lol
Sally is far from an achiever, she's very talented, one of the fastest hurdlers in the world and it shows.
love how John handled these three races and won. Now onto the meat of the season!
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby El Toro » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:47 pm

jlt wrote:What an incredibly negative piece El Toro. Why the snipping comments about Alana Boyd and men's LJ? I think indeed you should save your time and your money (if you paid) and stay away next year. I doubt anyone will miss you, am sure your negativity (did you complain about umbrellas all night?) is a downside for anyone sitting near you. For what it's worth I don't mind the venue and, despite the weather, enjoyed the two days. And I followed results on the large electronic scoreboard on the first turn.

Yours in track & field,
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Hi, jlt. I didn't have time to rework the piece like I usually do because I had to get out to the airport, so I'm sorry that you didn't like the writing. BUT the comments about the venue.organisation comes from my frustration where the administrators cry about the declining crowds (this new venue would have been packed out with crowds from even 10 years ago) yet don't seem prepared to work on constantly improving the experience for spectators.

While the video scoreboard was excellent for final results it was no use for following field events during the competition. This is where my interest usually lies, so we may have different views because of this. If the competition could be followed live on the internet as you can at WC and OG, this would be OK as well, but this doesn't happen either.

I wasn't sitting around complaining so I didn't spoil anybodies day but I certainly did hear other people complaining about the same things. Thanks for commenting anyway, most people don't bother. :D
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby El Toro » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:02 pm

Smoke wrote:..What's wrong with the haircut?! We like it. ........Sally is far from an achiever, she's very talented, one of the fastest hurdlers in the world and it shows.
love how John handled these three races and won. Now onto the meat of the season!


Smoke, the haircut comment was just a bit of bullshitting, so don't take that seriously. :lol:

I think you got the wrong end of the stick about Sally. Sure she is talented but I've detected a certain view in articles about her lately that seem to imply this is the primary reason she is successful. My view is that what makes her different from equally talented athletes is the rigour of her training and coaching approach.

Talent without achievement is nothing and I've seen plenty of it wasted, so calling her an achiever is not a slight but a compliment, at least from my point of view. Sorry if it seems the opposite - my writing is upsetting everybody today. :(

I agree with you about John. It was good to see him do so well. I've always supported him and never understood why so many seem to dislike him despite his achievements. Roll on those 44s!

As for missing a catchup, I'll PM you and jlt later about that.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jlt » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:26 pm

I guess I'm more a track guy El Toro but I like to follow good field event competitions; you're right of course about the lack of updates re progress (after say three jumps)......that's a standard issue/problem in our sport. They did of course many announcements such as "Frayne's jump of 8.00 the first 8m jump of competition, it takes him into the lead" etc.

Our sport so reliant on the conditions, given a warm, still night (as we had the week before eve day) it could/would have been so much better and I've no doubt Cole runs 48-high, Sally goes under 23, Stephenson runs 45-low and Frayne does 8.25 (not to mention Asbel running 3:32 and Rudisha 1:43...) etc. The big thing we missed yesterday was not having a fit and in form Mitchell jumping against Frayne; could have been special.

I heard pretty dire comments about the track/facility etc but apart from the wind (seemingly it is quite exposed) is it really so bad? I quite like it.....
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby El Toro » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:41 pm

jlt, the treatment of field events only annoys me so much because the technology is available to provide live results.

The data is trivial and now mobile internet access is trivial as well, so it should be easy to work with web updates, or better, sit there with a smart phone app that beeps a different sound when the different athletes you have marked to watch are ready to jump/throw then see results, change in place between rounds, call up their stats etc It's a nice dream....

I agree with you about the possible improvements in performance with better weather - at least there wasn't hail like there was one year :shock:

I think a lot of negativity about the track from Melbournians is due to most of them believing they should still be at Olympic Park. The decision to kick them out for football was bad enough but was made worse with some of the early government proposals which included lights that would not have been TV standard. I'm not sure if the back straight grandstand was going to be as big as it is now or if it was planned at all.

So people are a bit cynical about the government boasting about a "world class facility" when they spent as little as possible to get rid of the sport from it historic location and to shut people up.

Whether the track is compromised will depend on your event and preferences but the orientation was set because of the existing football grandstand and general lack of space due to the Grand Prix requirements. It might have been better East-West for cross winds on the straights with PV inside the curve to still allow tail winds for safer jumping.

Despite all that history, it is bright and shiny and new and you can walk all the way around without complicated manouvres, so that's good. :lol:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:40 am

El Toro wrote:jlt, the treatment of field events only annoys me so much because the technology is available to provide live results.

Live results didn't work at all during D1... perhaps AA were giving virtual spectators the same results experience that those at the track got.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:16 pm

Revised Olympic squad after the trials:

Youcef Abdi (NSW, 3000m Steeplechase)
Luke Adams (NSW, 50km walk)
Jarrod Bannister (Vic, javelin)
Collis Birmingham (Vic, 5000m)
Lauren Boden (ACT, 400m hurdles)
Alana Boyd (WA, pole vault)
Zoe Buckman (Vic, 1500m)
Brendan Cole (ACT, 400m Hurdles)
Nathan Deakes (ACT, 50km walk)
Henry Frayne (Qld, long jump, triple jump)
Benn Harradine (Vic, discus)
Regan Lamble (ACT, 20km walk)
Beki Lee (NSW, 20km walk)
Kaila McKnight (Vic, 1500m)
Kim Mickle (WA, javelin)
Craig Mottram (VIC, 5000m)
Liz Parnov (WA, pole vault)
Sally Pearson (Qld, 100m hurdles)
Jeff Riseley (VIC, 800m)
Dani Samuels (NSW, discus)
Ben St Lawrence (NSW, 10,000m)
Claire Tallent (VIC, 20km walk)
Jared Tallent (Vic, 20km walk, 50km walk)
Mitchell Watt (Qld, long jump)
Julian Wruck (Vic, discus)
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:48 pm

Congrats to Jake Stein, the World Youth Champs star, who set a NJR for U20 Decathlon over the weekend in Melbourne. Given the winds, he's likely to up this score before too long.

100 11.45 (-2.0)
LJ 6.99 (-1.6)
SP 16.94
HJ 1.95
400 52.42

110H 14.57 (-1.3)
DIS 52.21
PV 3.85
JAV 60.41
1500 5-01.60

Total: 7637 (beating another promising type David Brock on 7045)

In the seniors:

1 Stephen Cain 7844
2 Scott McLaren NZL 7601
3 Martin Brockman GBR 7331
4 Kyle McCarthy 7205
5 Jarrod Sims 7171

and Simone Carre took out the women's decathlon with 6428
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:21 pm

Jake Stein broke his national U20 decathlon record in Sydney today. His 7886 score places him #7 on the all-time junior list. 17 year old Ced Dubler also did well with 7504 in second.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Fri May 04, 2012 10:22 pm

Great day for Australian men's discus throwing, with Benn Harradine improving his AR to 67.53 in Townsville and Scott Martin also throwing an A-qualifier (65.63) in Maui. The men's 4x100 team have inched closer to an Olympics berth too, running 38.84 in Japan this week, with another race to come at the Kawasaki meet tomorrow.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby GMH454 » Sat May 05, 2012 2:14 pm

Oustanding result for Ben, go to be the first record for Townsville.

Great to see he is coming into his peak and is over some of the isssues from this summer.

Got a photo standing next to him at the Sydney meet. I am 180cm and 107kg and solid (still compete), looked small next to Ben (remind me never to stand next to Harting).

Good luck to Scott, three discus throwers would be awesome.( be positive)
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby unclezadok » Sat May 05, 2012 2:20 pm

Vault-emort wrote:Jake Stein broke his national U20 decathlon record in Sydney today. His 7886 score places him #7 on the all-time junior list. 17 year old Ced Dubler also did well with 7504 in second.


Ced? Short for...Cedrick?
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby JumboElliott » Sat May 05, 2012 5:12 pm

Not quite on the world class level (yet), but Sam McEntee (Perth) is showing tremendous range for Villanova in his first full collegiate season. He split sub 1:50 last week on an 800 at the Penn Relays last week, ran a 3:57.X mile indoors and then ran away with the conference 5000m in his debut tonight. Kid's a stud.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun May 06, 2012 9:15 pm

unclezadok wrote:Ced? Short for...Cedrick?

Yep - Cedric
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Sat May 12, 2012 2:14 pm

More A-qualifiers for London over the last couple of days:

Steve Hooker vaulted 5.72 in an officially-sanctioned meet in a Perth warehouse.
Ryan Gregson ran 3.33.92 at the Doha but still finished outside the top 10 over 1500.
Dale Stevenson (SP) threw 20.63 in South Carolina.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sat May 12, 2012 4:54 pm

Plus Kath Mitchell won the jav at Saarbrucken with 62.46m and Chris Erickson got the 20k Walk A mark in Russia
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby GMH454 » Sat May 12, 2012 5:32 pm

Kath Mitchell and Dale great marks, the throws will be well represented ..

really hope they can find the room for two more
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby AS » Tue May 15, 2012 2:44 pm

And a big PB from Jordan Willamsz in US overnight: 3.36.74

Previous PB: 3.39.74 (800m PB is 1:47.34 from last year)

The lad is still 19. Turns 20 in August, perhaps after debuting at Olympics if he can drop a further 1.2 seconds.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Tue May 15, 2012 4:47 pm

AS wrote:And a big PB from Jordan Willamsz in US overnight: 3.36.74

Also Sam McEntee ran 3:36.81 PB behind him.

Mr Bideau says Jordy is running again at Eagle Rock on Friday night.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Wed May 16, 2012 1:13 pm

Men's 4x4 team consisting of Solomon, Offereins, Cole and Thomas ran 3.01.5 last night in Daegu, giving them a good chance of securing a berth in London. No splits available but Solomon in particular looked fantastic running the lead leg and might go close to an individual qualifier if he can get into some good races over the next few weeks.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Fri May 25, 2012 3:38 pm

Well done to Kath Mitchell for her PB 64.34 for 3rd (on countback) in Ostrava overnight. Pretty much guaranteed an Olympic berth now and great to see a near veteran in career best form when so many other similarly talented athletes might have given it away by now.

Love it when these things happen in an Olympic year.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby GMH454 » Fri May 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Today (Saturday a good piece in the Australian's magazine, on Sally Pearson), no new info, but thought the writer captured the "suffer no fools" part of Sally's personality, and her competiveness (flashback to her 400 relay run in Delhi)

nice photos, Addidas will be pleased
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Fri May 25, 2012 8:36 pm

Mitch Watt just cleared 8.21 (R2) in his 2012 debut at the Gold Coast.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jackbean » Sat May 26, 2012 1:07 am

Tamsyn Manou did some greAt whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jackbean » Sat May 26, 2012 1:08 am

Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby jackbean » Sat May 26, 2012 1:09 am

Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Athleticsimaging » Sat May 26, 2012 2:37 am

jackbean wrote:Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:

jackbean wrote:Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:

jackbean wrote:Tamsyn Manou did some great whinging about the apparent roughness of the Ostrava 800. The race actually didn't look too bad, but she always needs excuses. Pity there wasn't a 4x400 relay...:roll:

Well, whiny, repetitive bitches are obviously thick on the ground around here as well....
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby typpo » Sat May 26, 2012 10:34 pm

If I'm not mistaken, Mitchell's 64.34 makes her #3 Aussie all-time behind Louise Currey (silver 1996 OG) and Joanna Stone (World Cup winner in 1998) and now puts her ahead of Kim Mickle (6th 2011 WC, preselected for London).

The men's 4x100 team had another hit-out in Taiwan yesterday but failed to break 39 seconds, so it remains to be seen whether their recent efforts in Japan will be enough to see them qualify for London. None of the boys ran quicker than 10.3 in the individual 100 either, including Josh Ross, who looked like he was on the verge of qualifying after his windy 10.16 the other week.

Meanwhile, Steffensen runs tonight in Hengelo and Renshaw, Gregson, Abdi and Buckman are running in Rabat.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Vault-emort » Sun May 27, 2012 8:05 pm

Steve Solomon story here - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/l ... 6368707844 - he will commence medicine at Stanford Uni later in the year.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby Athleticsimaging » Tue May 29, 2012 4:57 am

A special post to bring tears of loss and yearinng to Speedster's eyes.

Something I found on a still-in-use public service filing cabinet a few years ago:-

Hey, cobber!
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby pakillo » Wed May 30, 2012 1:54 pm

What's the latest on Jana Pittman? First I heard she quit track and switches to rowing (which I didn't like at all), now I see something that she will try 800m in the future. Definitely would be good to watch her on track.
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Re: Aussie Aussie Aussie - 2012

Postby mal » Wed May 30, 2012 2:25 pm

A flake unfortunately
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