Marquis wrote:Crouser's not a Junior anymore, but the 66-07 was accompanied by a 66-06 as well.
Should we post these in the 2011 thread?
Yeah, what do you do with Crouser given that he is 19 years and barely 1 month at this point, but had he been 2 weeks overdue he would still be a junior.
This also came up with prodigal distance runners Alan Webb and Dathan Ritzenhein. Webb was only10 days younger than Ritz, but that was enough to make him junior eligible while Ritzenhein had to settle for running with the big boys.
And Withrow was born about Xmas day; a week later and he, not Rupp, would have had the 5000m (I think) record.
And it's like so what? Maybe the rules should be amended in some way because it does seem a bit unfair that someone born on 31 December misses out on a whole year's (minus a day) worth of opportunities to set records that someone born a day later has the opportunity to break.
And speaking of Jacko he is thowing this eveving in Christchurch - but in the discuss. I will report as soon as I know what he does.
If Jacko had been born 2 weeks later he would be elgible this year to still compete as a youth - but he wasn't and so he isn't.
Some of these are no longer U20 juniors. I'll weed it out as information comes in. 18.29m (60-00) Matthew Hoty (Tennessee) 18.21m (59-09) Stephen Mozia (Cornell) 18.07m (59-03) Ben Glauser (Harvard) 17.75m (58-03) Zach Coniglio (Sacramento St) 17.73m (58-02) Antonio James (Michigan State) 17.53m (57-06) Nick Vena (Virginia) 17.42m (57-02) Mark Jennings (Minnesota) 17.02m (55-10) Darrell Hill (Houston) 17.01m (55-09) Will Spence (Texas) 16.89m (55-05) Kole Weldon (Texas Tech) 16.87m (55-04) Kevin Farley (SE Missouri) 16.71m (54-10) Brad Vivace (Louisville) 16.65m (54-07) Andrew Akens (UTSA) 16.40m (53-09) Gabe Hull (Iowa)
There's also an interview with him on the Polish federation's YT channel, where he says he was a bit disappointed with his performance, since he hoped for 21+. He will also be competing in the national champs in the senior category in 3 weeks, and wants to get over 19 meters there.
Jacko Gill via Facebook wrote:Jacko Gill Jan 21 Farkkkkk! So happy new Training PB with the 8kg, finally hit one - 19.44M. It was after a good weights session this morning too, got a 169 - 5 Bench ... GREAT DAY :') ♥
I'm surprised this guy hasn't progressed more. Brzozowski threw very far with the 5kg, having thrown 23.23 in 2010 I reckoned that would have been the equivalent of 21m with the 6kg, and 2011 20.91 was less than i imagined him to be capable of, 2061 is less I believe than he could have thrown in 2010.
interesting remark, still a glider, well is Storl still a glider, or Whiting still a rotater? or Gill still a rotater? is there some suggestion than it is a more useful technique for throwing far, How far would Jacko throw if he was a glider? The meet in Poland with the big guys throwing heavy and light shots was interesting.
leoesharkey wrote:interesting remark, still a glider, well is Storl still a glider, or Whiting still a rotater? or Gill still a rotater? is there some suggestion than it is a more useful technique for throwing far, How far would Jacko throw if he was a glider?
The reason I said he is still a glider is that he has been talking of switching to the spin, as I said in my post. In the interview I saw recently, he also said he believed the spin is the better technique for him in the long run, and he intends to work on it.
"Training's been going really well. I've been mixing it up with some 8k and some 7k [runs] and just working on the weights side of things. I'm obviously not as strong [as the older competitors]. I don't push it too much, but I've decided to work on that," he said.
I see that they managed to get their athletics correspondent to sub this piece. Excellent, I was wondering what distances Jacko had been running in training.
Braheme Days via Facebook wrote:Braheme Days Feb 7 I wanna give a S/O to everyone who liked my earlier post when I said I wanted to win states, well I said I needed likes and I got 'em along with the #1 spot in the nation so thanks to everybody!
Shot Put: #1 68ft. 11in.
Next goal win Group States! I need LIKES for that too though so this is my last post till then!
Jacko Gill via Facebook wrote:Jacko Gill Feb 13 I have to Throw in bare feet now, because at the Christchurch meet last week an official fouled my big Throws due to slipping at the back of the circle and I can't have that problem at big meets. So for extra grip I'll now Throw with no shoe on my left foot :D FARK I'M A GENUIS!!! And it's going really well so far :) I can't do the whole session without the shoe, because it wares the skin off the foot :/ but I'm already past the point I was at with the shoe on the left foot. Panda coming up with some more good ideas!!! ;) Staying in 8kg PB
Wasn't the acceptance speech but even better a 4 plus minute interview on Morning Report which I hadn't seen before.
One of the things that was interesting from the interview was that Jacko confirmed what a complete lot of dickheads we have running athletics in New Zealand. Jacko confirmed that he was given a dispensation to compete as a senior at the NZ National championships. Wow!! What a bunch of far sighted officials we have in NZ to give the national senior record holder, the 2nd best senior shot putter in the Commonwealth and the most outrageously prodigious shot putting talent in the world, maybe history, a dispensation to expose himself to the undoubeted harmful risks of competing against seniors who are a metre or two or more worse than him.
Can you imagine that in the 21st century the NZ Athletics bosses decided to take a lead from the IAAF who prevented Jacko from competing at Daegu by introducing a special and more restrictive rule to protect. "We need to prevent any athlete under the age of 19 competing in the NZ national champs." Athletics NZ Sports Manager, Brett Addison says it is necessary to have the rule to protect young athletes from over enthusiastic parents.
Yep gotta protect Jacko from his parents Walter and Nerida. The IAAF and Olympic bosses will happily let this abused 17 year old compete at the Olympics this year but here in NZ we are gonna protect our national senior record holder from all of those mean and aggressive senior shot putters we have here in NZ.
Jacko talks about young Joshua Hawkins. Like Jacko he is 17 years old as well. Last year he won a silver at the World Youths runnng 13.44 in the 110mH. The NZ leader this year for the Open Mens 110mH has run 14.76. Joshua can't run at the NZ nationals in the Open Men senior hurdles because he must be protected from all of those inferior older hurdlers - and from his hopelesly over enthusiastic parents.
Jacko Gill via Facebook wrote:Jacko Gill Feb 23 1st Bench Press session back from a slipping ulnar nerve in my left elbow - 2nd set in got a 10 - 155kg (10rep PB) :') and it was reallyyyyy easy!!! Not bad for at 1am, Woooh! Haven't lost any strength, feeling really strong!!! :)
Jacko Gill via Facebook wrote:Jacko Gill Feb 26 NEW BENCH PRESS PB - 205KG!!! (451lb) home alone with no spotter on a new bench!!! I almost died ... BUT A 10kg PB!!! Maybe the ugliest lift I've ever done ... but I still got it ... JUST, with adrenaline for the fear of my life haha 205kg 451lb @ 17 and 2 months (BW 107kg)
There has been some criticism of Jacko Gill's training methods. I've got no problem with his approach since it seems to be producing astounding results... to each his own. HOWEVER, if his latest claim re-posted here is to be believed, benching 205KG "alone with no spotter" goes beyond controversial and into the realm of pure stupidity.
jhc68 wrote:There has been some criticism of Jacko Gill's training methods. I've got no problem with his approach since it seems to be producing astounding results... to each his own. HOWEVER, if his latest claim re-posted here is to be believed, benching 205KG "alone with no spotter" goes beyond controversial and into the realm of pure stupidity.
Jacko Gill narrowly misses breaking NZ record 16:11 24/03/2012 • with video "It was good to get a performance so close to my personal best without freshening up," Gill said. "It's probably not as far as I hoped, but I'm pretty happy under the circumstances."
also, from November: Channel Interview: Jacko Gill, World Champion Shot Putter “From a very young age it is what I’ve wanted,” says Jacko. “There has really only been one option for me and that is to be the best. I have been very lucky that my parents have supported me by funding my trips, and others have helped considerably as well.”
Jacko Gill aims at London shot medal MARC HINTON Last updated 09:03 25/03/2012 "It will be a sensation if Gill isn't named today in the initial wave of qualified athletes. The North Shore youngster is on target to achieve Valerie Adams-like dominance of his event and it doesn't make any sense not to pitch him in now. The apprenticeship isn't expected to last long."