Junior Shot Put '13 [Gill in Sweden video]

[Rye Catcher]

No more tripe from Mump.............I like it.

[El Toro]

Tauriki and mal, you cranky old buggers, it's a kinder, gentler world nowadays!

Just think about how good another precocious youngster could have been if only Athletics NZ had been there to protect him achieving too much too soon.......

In 340, when Philip II assembled a large Macedonian army and invaded Thrace, he left his 16 years old son with the power to rule Macedonia as regent in his absence.
The Thracian tribe of Maedi seized the opportunity to rebel, only for Alexander to assemble an army, lead it against the rebels, and with swift action defeat the Maedi, capture their stronghold, and rename it after himself to Alexandropolis. [wanna talk about real ego? ]

Two years later in 338 BC, Philip gave his son a commanding post among the senior generals as the Macedonian army invaded Greece. At the Battle of Chaeronea the Greeks were defeated and Alexander displayed his bravery by destroying the elite Greek force, the Theban Secret Band. Some ancient historians recorded that the Macedonians won the battle thanks to his bravery.

[Rye Catcher]

Pig out on Jacko Gill articles from the original source.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/jacko20gill/s ... w2=&st=gsa

[Tuariki]

Kansas teen DQ’ed for running with tape over earrings; if uncovered would have been warned

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschoo ... 53602.html

On April 10, Miranda Clark was getting ready to line up for the start of the 1,600-meter race at the Ellsworth Invitational. The Russell (Kan.) High student was ready to roll when she noticed that she had earrings in, a result of a recent ear piercing. Knowing that wearing jewelry in a race is forbidden in sporting events by the Kansas State High School Activities Association, Clark knew she couldn't run with her earrings showing, so she did what most athletes do to make jewelry less conspicuous: She covered them up with tape.

As it turns out, that decision was the worst she could have made. As soon as Clark finished the event, a track official, Jim Cross, approached her and asked what was under her tape. When she admitted that the tape was covering an earring, Cross promptly judged that she was exhibiting "unsportsmanlike conduct," a ruling that disqualified the Russell (Kan.) High runner from the entire meet; Clark was scheduled to run the 3,200 meters later in the afternoon.

Is it possible that Jim Cross attended the Athletics NZ Graduate School of rules interpretation?

[Tuariki]

And from "TODAY'S TOP HEADLINES"

Best Men’s Non-Qualifying Marks
SP -20.06 - 65-9¾ - Marco Schmidt (Germany) - WC 11

Although Jim Rorick's stats are for the best 13th place getters it would appear that in every WC and Olympics Jacko's 20.38m would have always gotten him through the qualifying round and into the top 12.

[Daisy]

Why should NZ's national record holder for the senior shot, ranked 2nd in all of the Commonwealth and 30th in all of the world have to go cap in hand to ask for an exemption?

This is not an IAAF rule - it is something a bunch of dorks in NZ Athletics Admin dreamed up all by themselves.

I bet these guys still rue the day when the rugby union players were allowed to earn a pay check.

[26mi235]

And from "TODAY'S TOP HEADLINES"

Best Men’s Non-Qualifying Marks
SP -20.06 - 65-9¾ - Marco Schmidt (Germany) - WC 11

Although Jim Rorick's stats are for the best 13th place getters it would appear that in every WC and Olympics Jacko's 20.38m would have always gotten him through the qualifying round and into the top 12.

Having a PR at that level and throwing it in three attempts in the Q round are two different things.

[Tuariki]

The criteria for the NZ Olympic Selectors (as opposed to Athletics NZ) is that it there is a well founded expectation that an athlete will make the top 16.

s2.5 - The overriding selection criteria determined by the NZOC is that we will select individual athletes who, through World Rankings and credible top level international competition performances, have demonstrated the ability to finish within the top 16 at the 2012 London Olympic Games, with the potential to win an Olympic Diploma (top 8).

Having a PR at that level and throwing it in three attempts in the Q round are two different things.

While I agree with this sentiment the standard is that he demonstrate an ability to finish within the top 16 with the potential to finish in the top 8. Jacko has clearly done this.

[bushop]

Quick question, are there other junior men throwing the shot this year or is Gill it?

Not too much yet. The IAAF has not posted junior lists.

[norunner]

The criteria for the NZ Olympic Selectors (as opposed to Athletics NZ) is that it there is a well founded expectation that an athlete will make the top 16.

s2.5 - The overriding selection criteria determined by the NZOC is that we will select individual athletes who, through World Rankings and credible top level international competition performances, have demonstrated the ability to finish within the top 16 at the 2012 London Olympic Games, with the potential to win an Olympic Diploma (top 8).

So which "credible top level international competitions" did he compete in?

[leoesharkey]

Oh God, what a terrible waffly statement, and it looks like it was written by a non-english speaker who is just starting lessons. how could any federation publish this?

[leoesharkey]

Sigh, that is absolutely terrible, awful, embarrassing. The criteria is...are, I can't even read beyond the first sentence without squirming. Suddenly I smell bullshit.

[highjumpfan]

Nick Vena 19.27 yesterday with the big ball. Go Nick go.
Does anyone know if he intends to try out for world juniors this year?

[gibson]

through brute force of the "pen" i will try and make an effect on athletics nz.
i know that with enough voices it will work. new zealanders need to call and talk to people personally, email them personally, and even pop into their office.

here is the latest:

Newman said he had heard Gill had been fouled at a meeting in Australia a couple of years ago but did not think there was any "conspiracy".

"We have been doing everything in our power to support Jacko - why would we do anything else?
gibson: bullshit, they did not name gill to the team. it is in their power.
athletics nz made gill lobby to participate in the senior champs, not invite him with open arms.
athletics nz did not investigate the phantom foul incidents, did not lend any support.
other interference.

Sure, we could have done a couple of things better over the qualification issue but we have already acknowledged that. If anyone is suggesting, by linking these elements together, that there is a conspiracy, that is absolute twaddle."

yes it is absolute twaddle.
bring in john walker, quax, snell and or dixon to head up athletics nz and bring in willis when he retires.

has athletics nz considered any of these people. no. why have world class when you can have mediocre. why hire champs when you have chumps. lets hire losers instead of winners.

athletics nz has done NOTHING for the sport. fire the lot.

[gh]

Nick Vena 19.27 yesterday with the big ball. Go Nick go.
Does anyone know if he intends to try out for world juniors this year?

He turns 20 tomorrow.

[highjumpfan]

Nick Vena 19.27 yesterday with the big ball. Go Nick go.
Does anyone know if he intends to try out for world juniors this year?

He turns 20 tomorrow.

The IAAF has his birth year listed as 1993. He turns 19 tomorrow.

[bushop]

Nick Vena 19.27 yesterday with the big ball. Go Nick go. Does anyone know if he intends to try out for world juniors this year?

He turns 20 tomorrow.

The IAAF has his birth year listed as 1993. He turns 19 tomorrow.

Ryan Crouser USA (12.18.92)
5 kg (11 lb) -- 21.56m (70-09) 11.07.09
5.4 kg (12 lb) -- 23.54m (77-02) 02.18.11
6 kg (13.2 lb) -- dnc
7 kg (16 lb) -- 20.29m (66-07) 01.27.12

Nick Vena USA (04.16.93)
5 kg (11 lb) -- dnc
5.4 kg (12 lb) -- 23.12m (75-10) 06.13.11
6 kg (13.2 lb) -- 20.14m (66-01) 06.25.10
7 kg (16 lb) -- 19.27m (63-02) 04.14.12

If my numbers are correct, it seems like Marquis has won the bet. Crouser will not beat Vena since Crouser will not be there.

Curses, foiled again. He got me in a sucker bet!
Never-fail trick question (well, in 5th grade, at least)
How many animals were on the ark with Moses?
None! Noah was on the Ark!!

[gm]

Nick Vena 19.27 yesterday with the big ball. Go Nick go.
Does anyone know if he intends to try out for world juniors this year?

He turns 20 tomorrow.

The IAAF has his birth year listed as 1993. He turns 19 tomorrow.

19 is correct.

[leoesharkey]

SO, is Vena still a junior this year? and 63 feet for a junior or 19 yr old, or even just a young guy is a good opener to his outdoor season !

[Per Andersen]

SO, is Vena still a junior this year? and 63 feet for a junior or 19 yr old, or even just a young guy is a good opener to his outdoor season !

Yes, If he's born in 1993 he is a junior throughout 2012. The year he turns 20, he is no longer a junior.

[leoesharkey]

Potentially this young man could break the US record, he could go 64 with the big ball and maybe 72 with the 6k? I hope he focuses on it and gives Jacko a run for his money !

[gh]

Vena 64-¼ (19.51) at the ACC.... now No. 7 U.S. Junior ever.

[gh]

also PRed to win the discus: 179-11 (54.84)

[leoesharkey]

So he certainly could go 64 LOL he has. He could go 65 and 73-74?

[bushop]

Gill peeks out from his self-imposed hermitage.

170kg (374lb) - 9 reps. 17 years old Training for World Junior Track and Field championships 2012, in Barcelona :)

[Marlow]

170kg (374lb) - 9 reps. 17 years old

That about says it all. It's ridiculous.
With his speed, strength, technique, passion, dedication, etc., etc., the only thing that can stop him from getting the WR is injury. If anything, his coach should be reining him in at this stage!

[Rye Catcher]

Gill peeks out from his self-imposed hermitage.

170kg (374lb) - 9 reps. 17 years old Training for World Junior Track and Field championships 2012, in Barcelona

With no spotter, what happens if he fails to get that last rep up? Not smart to workout alone.

[Vault-emort]

Quick question, are there other junior men throwing the shot this year or is Gill it?

Aussie Damien Birkenhead (b93) is not in Gill's league but set a NJR for the 6kg shot a coupla weeks back in Melbourne (20.51m). His best with the senior shot is 18.48 and he's also not bad at the Hammer.

[Marlow]

Quick question, are there other junior men throwing the shot this year or is Gill it?

Aussie Damien Birkenhead (b93) is not in Gill's league but set a NJR for the 6kg shot a coupla weeks back in Melbourne (20.51m). His best with the senior shot is 18.48 and he's also not bad at the Hammer.

I realize the Q was facetious, but the other Jr 20m-ers from last year with 6kg ball are

20.92 Krzysztof Brzozowski POL
20.63 Meng Li CHN
20.10 Dennis Lewke GER
20.10 Damien Birkinhead AUS
[from IAAF.org]

[bushop]

If I may... an interesting video, well worth the watch... all the way to the end.

World Juniors Training video - Jacko Gill

[preston]

If I may... an interesting video, well worth the watch... all the way to the end.

World Juniors Training video - Jacko Gill

At the end it says a PB...today? Did they measure? Anyway, I guess my real question is: when are they going to move Jacko up to the 800m?

[shotputter]

Someone should tell Jacko that the World junior boxing championship is not until October.

[jeremyp]

If I may... an interesting video, well worth the watch... all the way to the end.

World Juniors Training video - Jacko Gill

It's the stair hopping that shows this kids power in the legs. What's his weight now? 105 kilos?

[Powell]

Brzozowski 21.14 NJR yesterday in Białystok at the national junior champs.

[leoesharkey]

could be five or six putters over 20m in world juniors and a few over 21m