Just 144 favourites to go who all have at leat 3 votes; including 15 of mine.
I wonder who will be #1. I am pretty sure it won't be mine is it is jumper. I am guessing it will most likely be a distance runner. In my remaining 15 I have 3 distance runners. I think only one them has a chance to be the overall #1. Of those I haven't voted for I think Pre, Frank Shorter and Bayi must be in the running.
I recall that the the greatest TJ ever was at some rather unearthly hour in '68 at home in England but I wont see a comp like that again in my lifetime ; poor Gentile!!! What spoilt the 1980 TJ where Saneyev got his Silver was the nasty cheating of the Russian officials by particularly fouling Campbells jumps.!!
I had seen her in 1982 Asian Games and 1984 Olympics, but her dominance at 1986 Asian Games left me lasting impressions. Not only she won four gold medals (200m, 400m, 400mh and 4X400m), but the way she dominated the competition was impossible to forget.
In her first event (400mh), she beat the entire field by more than three seconds. The TV camera could not show other runners in the home stretch because she was so far ahead of the field. That was followed by much hyped showdowns with the "glamour girl" from the Philippines, Lydia de Vega, who was the defending champion in 100m. After narrowly losing the 100m race, Usha avenged that loss by winning 200m by beating the defending champion in the event (Isozaki) as well as Vega. Then she had another mind-boggling win in 400m by beating the entire field by nearly two seconds. Her incredible week was capped off by almost single-handedly leading the Indian team to a gold medal in 4x400m.
This was impressive enough, but the fact she did not come from the tradition of sprinting or athletic dominance makes her an even more remarkable athlete.
After some early drop outs and some late entries we have 418 athletes in the race (i think) 418th (1 Vote 1 Point eg 20th favourite of 1 person each)
Asha Hanson Anthony Famiglianni Charles Kilpatrick Craig Mottram Dick Fosbury Dallas Long Fermin Cacho George Woods Ingrid Kristiansen Adhemar Ferreira da Silva Joe Green Kemal Thompson Luis Delis Larry Myricks Lj Van Zyl Meserat Defar Monica Cabbler Norwood Ewell Reiko Tosa Ricky Branch Ray Ewery Sammy Wanjiru Steve Barnes Shingeru So Trine Hattestad
393th (1 vote, 2 points)
Brittany Reece Chi Cheng Dennis Carr Jessica Augusto Javier Sotomayer Kayoko Fukushi Mark Richardson Marion Kolosa Paul Wilson Tatyana Kotova Thomas Wessinghage Tom Pukstys Barbel Wochel
380st (1 Vote, 3 points)
Armin Harry Christian Taylor Francis Obikwelu Lopez Lomong Leamon King Mike Carter Marcuss O'Sullivan Mark Plaatjes Sergie Litvinov Skip Sheaffer Perdita Felicien Quincy Watts Walter Dix Ted Corbey
366th (1 Vote, 4 Points)
Agnes Samaria Anke Behmer Alberto Salazar Al Cantello Browning Ross Bridget Foster Chris Solinsky Dionne Hemmings Emma George Murry Halberg Kim Batten Lauren Williams Natalya Antyuk Paul Ereng Rob Milburn Sally Gunnell Sydney Maree Tom Courtney 348th (1 Vote, 5 Points)
Bob Kennedy Jutt Heine Jiri Shobla Jerome Drayton Kip Javonin Lorraine Fenton Milt Cambell Mike Boit Mondo Duplanis !! Phil Brown Peter Blank Rutger Smith Sung Kee Chong Yerelis Barrios Willie Davenport
333rd (1 Vote, 6 Points)
Andrey Perlov Anisora Stanciu Arthur Wint Eddie Southern Hayden Jones Jordan Hassay John Landy John Carlos Jan Johnson Lynn Davies Nikki Xanthou Rosie Ackerman Ruis Silver Llewlyn Herbert Lazaro Borgia Phillips Idowu Sean Crawford Sunder Nix Vladislav Kozakiewicz Yuriy Sedyk 313th (1 Vote, 7 Points)
Alain Mimoun Carlo Thranhart Dwight Phillips Donovan Bailey Heidi Rosenthal Herb McKinley Illona Slupienek Jessie Stewart John Smith Kevin Little Olga Kaniskina Percy Williams Renauld Levellanie Robert Harting Justin Gatlin Lydia Simon Werner Gunthur
296th (1 Vote 8 Points)
Anne Packer Adulf Plummer Betty Cuthbert Bob Beamon Bob Schull Chante Howard Dave Wottle Eva Glescova George Rhoden Iva Prandzeva Inga Babakova Jen Barringer Jeurgen Shult Jenn Suhr Kris Akabusi Lawrence Myers Natasha Kaiser Brown Quentin Cassidy Rick Wolhouter Tony Jarret Ionel Tirlea Asafa Powell Fortius is the only person to vote for Asafa Dwain Chambers
273rd (1 Vote 9 Points)
Alan Pascoe Astrid Kumbernuss Andrew Wheating Harold Connelly Inger Miller Irving Saladino Jen Rhimes Kylie Hutson Katrin Krabbe Mike Connelly Paul Drayton Patrick Sjoberg Robert Korzeniowski
260th (1 Vote 10 points)
Carrie Tollefson Don Bragg Johnny Kuch Jo Dial Miruts Yifter Mike Marsh Olga Fitova Connoly (she beat her husband) Romain Barras Steve Cram
251st (1 Vote 11 points)
Alvin Kraenzlein Chris Brasher Daniel Komen (sorry i added him up wrong earlier) Dayron Robles Doug Olmstead Ellen Van Langen Gordon Pirie Hasna Benhassi Jeurgen Hingsen Janis Lusis Kath Smith Randy Matson Shiela Hudson Steve Hooker Yargelis Savigne 236th (1 vote 12 points)
Butch Reynolds Chandra Stirrup Dylan Armstrong Drew Fucci Fernando Ribiero Francoise Mbango Fabianna Murer Henry Carr Joe Faust Lolo Jones Otis Davis Suzie Favour Hamilton Walter George
223rd (1 vote 13 points)
Harry Jerome Jim Brewer Russel Adams Saif Saaed Shaheen Tina Lilaak
218th - (1 vote 14 points)
Briana Glen Dawn Harper Ernie Shelton Gerry Moro Helena Fibingerova Joseph Plachy Jeff Williams Lee Evans Maxim Dyaldin
Dana Zatopekova Falilat Ogunkoya Mehdi Baala Moses Kiptanui Nick Rose Ollie Matson Sanya Richards (where's Track Daddy when you need him ?) Thierrry Vigneron Vladimir Yashchenko Wang Junxia Wolfgand Schmidt
291nd (1 Vote 17 points)
Kelly Sotherton Leatitia Vriesde Larry James Pat Matzdorf Richard Attlesey Roger Kingdom
185th (1 vote 18 points)
Alexandra Chudina Igor Potapovich John Godina Kim Smith Lillian Board Olga Kotylarova Pekka Paivarinta Steve Williams Tina Paulino
175th (1 vote 19 points)
Christina Obergföll Carla Sacramento Dieter Baumann Grit Breur Mal Whitfield Radion Gataullin Anatoly Bonderchuk
168st (1vote 20 points)
5 athletes had a singular first place votes, i'd love to hear your memories of your faves
Brian Diemer Gabo Szabo Jim Beatty Jim Bolding Yordanka Donkova Shirley Strickland
Track and Field News' 162nd favourite athlete is with (2 votes 4 points)
161st (2 votes 6 points)
Sonia O'Sulivan 160th (2 votes 8 points)
Heike Henkel (have i already posted her with 1 vote ??) 159th (2 votes 9 points)
Ian Campbell - Unfortunately a gutless IAAF allowed the Russians to get away with cheating not only Campbell but also Joao de Oliveira. In all 9 fouls out of 12 jumps for those 2 jumpers - every time one of them had the temerity to jump past 17 metres and past Uudmae and Saneyev. As was reported by James Dunaway both of them had their best jumps out past 17.60m - more than 30cm past Uudmae and Saneyev. My second favourite should have been 4th.
Back then the IAAF at the top were just as morally corrupt as FIFA was, and sadly, still is.
Campbell the "West Islander" was, like me, a WSU man.
Sonia was my choice for number one. As a young kid I was introduced to athletics by a friend who was a big Sonia Lannaman fan. The first race I remember watching was the Euro Champs 4x100 in 78. It was exciting as the UK finished 2nd, ahead of the GDR, with Sonia making up 3 or 4m on the Soviet anchor Storoshkova despite being well below form earlier in the week because of injury. I was hooked.
I developed an interest in the sport and looked forward to Sonia's 79 season with great interest, but as it turned out her best running was already mostly behind her... she pulled a hamstring early on and missed most of the season, then in 80 despite setting pbs at 100 and 200 she underperformed in the Olympics before missing the rest of the season. She was never the same again, but I never wavered in my support.
I was however able to read about her successes of the past... in 76, she went into the Olympics having beaten both Richter and Stecher (the eventual gold and silver medallists) in the 100. She was injured in relay practice however and didn't get to compete. In 77 she was ranked 2nd in the world in both sprints, ahead of Richter in the 100 and Koch and Wockel in the 200, the latter of whom she beat twice, as well as beating the year's number 1, Szewinska. In 78 she was injured before the Europeans but had already won the 100 gold in the Commonwealth Games.
My other big favourite at the time was Marita Koch, the other great up and coming athlete of 77 who obviously went from strength to strength. Sonia wasn't so fortunate, but also didn't have the support - the efficient sports system, the professional circumstances - Marita had. Sonia just had her huge talent to fall back on. I can't help but wonder how she would have fared with Marita's level of support...
I have since discovered that Sonia had caring commitments to her mother that reduced her to training only 3 days a week, and what with having a full-time job, she was the exact opposite of Marita, who trained full-time whilst still a student. Sonia also appears to have been completely drugfree, which I suspect is quite rare at the top echelons of sprinting. Her constant bugbear was injury, which was the scourge of her career and left her past her best at 25, but with better and more frequent training, more in the way of injury prevention, less personal and professional commitments and more time to relax, her constant injuries might have been averted.
Sonia's best times were 11.20 and 22.58, but with full-time training and a professional support system behind her, with all kinds of assistance, fair or no, to reduce the risk of injury and place her on an even playing field with the rest of the world, who knows what she could have run? 10.7/8? 21.7/9? Seems possible to me.
Obviously in the end the fact is she didn't achieve those times, so such thinking is only speculation, but there is still a magic about this great athlete who nevertheless achieved so much. She was exciting, charismatic and beautiful, and one of a kind, in the UK at least, and that is why she has remained my favourite athlete.
Per Andersen wrote:You made a mistake with Perdita Felicien. She's listed with one vote for 3 pts as Felicien and with 2 votes for 22pts as Felician.
Also is Kip Javorin Kip JANVRIN? and Is Hayden Jones HAYES Jones?
Possibilities for error with Armin Hary. He is in there with one vote as Harry.
as we're already finding mistakes i"m going to leave this up for a little while, please point out any more mistakes that you find so we can go forward correctly. The is a no chance of it being 100% correct but i"d like to get as close as possible
I'll also use this as a a natural break where we can discuss the people who have already left if we haven't done so already.
I would have done this at 100 anyway (and you never know by the time you've all pointed out the people i've counted twice we might be at 100 anyway !!)
So chat away and i'll start posting 3 votes when we think we've sorted the problems it will also give me a chance to work out how to use this newfangled laptop i've got. It took me half an hour to cut and paste once sentence last night
Tuariki wrote:Ian Campbell - Unfortunately a gutless IAAF allowed the Russians to get away with cheating not only Campbell but also Joao de Oliveira. In all 9 fouls out of 12 jumps for those 2 jumpers - every time one of them had the temerity to jump past 17 metres and past Uudmae and Saneyev. As was reported by James Dunaway both of them had their best jumps out past 17.60m - more than 30cm past Uudmae and Saneyev. My second favourite should have been 4th.
Back then the IAAF at the top were just as morally corrupt as FIFA was, and sadly, still is.
Campbell the "West Islander" was, like me, a WSU man.
Interestingly enough, for reasons that were unclear to me (since we were in beer-drinking mode, not investigative journalism), when I quaffed a few with Saneyev he railed on at great length how the officials had screwed him too in '80. (while acknowledging that Campbell and de O had indeed gotten the shaft)
In fact mump boy I am sure they will want you to do the chad count in Florida next year as well.
Talking of recent "elections" I am keenly awaiting for North Korea to inform the rest of the world what I am sure North Koreans already know - Kim Jong Un's incredible prowess as the world's greatest TnF athlete of all time. 35m with 7.26kg shot - sorry Jacko you're just not in the same league and 7.34 for the 100m - who the hell is Usain?
And I do apologise for being so overcome with grief at the tragic loss of Dear Leader that I forgot to tell mump boy that Dear Successor had succeeded his father as my all time favourite athlete.
When the news comes out Jong Un will surely rank up there with the world's greatest golfer (18 hole at 34 - 38 under) - none other than Dear Leader himself and Mao Ze Dong, the world's greatest swimmer with15 kms in 65 minutes in the Yangtse in 1966 against the flow (that's a rate of 26 seconds for every 100m - I mean eat your heart out Michael Phelps).
Been meaning to past about my last 2 loses... Kim Collins - In a world of arrogant, posturing, musclebound sprinters in the early 00's Kim Collins relaxed attitude and constant smiley countenance was a breath of fresh air. Where was it that the crowd were making a lot a noise at the start of a race and whilst everyone else was prowling around looking all serious he was laughing and joking and telling everyone to shush.I feel that a lot of the great attitude that Usain has brought to the sprinters these days first started with Kim.
The fact that he has continued to win medals well into his 30's despite never running super quick times is fabulous. His double bronze medal wins in Daegu where amazing and couldn't have happened to a nicer man. Caster Semenya - Such a class act. I can't think of a single athlete in history that has had to go through such an ordeal and has handled it with such dignity. She was only 18 and is the one person in the whole conflama who has always acted with the utmost integrity. Most people in her position would have just disappeared never to be heard of again. Wherever you stand on the situation you have that she admire her courage and fortitude.
gh wrote:I don't think that any of my athletes had a drug stain, but if one of them were to come up with one in the future, I don'n' thin it would change their status as faves in my eyes. Very hard to take away good memories.
A decade ago, Marion Jones would have definitely made my list, probably in top 10.
I still have plenty of good memories of her, especially on the basketball court. But I cannot possibly vote for her now.
You absolutely can.. There would be nothing wrong if you did. It's not like any of her major competitors were clean anyways.
But in the case of Marion, you'd have everything right up until the late-summer of 2000 to work with, when, according to what I've heard, she enlisted with Victor Conte's cadre. With her medals from there on wiped out, she takes a very big drop off such a list (if not out of it entirely), even with her 1997-99 exploits.
My choices were based on who I liked to watch compete...which is down to a variety of factors. I included Tatyana Samolenko-Dorovskikh in my list, who failed a test in 93. I'm not a fan of dopers, but as gh says, it's hard to take away the memories. The other, perhaps thing, is that I loved watching her run, but sometimes really wanted her to lose. It all came down to who she competed against, and it wasnt necessarily that I preferred them to her, but the excitement was from watching her get beat, especially because of her tactics of following the favourite and then pouncing. It was a mixture of admiration, respect but also annoyance. So, in the 1992 Olympics I loved the women's 1500m and was ecstatic when Boulmerka and the then relatively unknown Yunxia beat her. But are they in my top list? No.
Jurgen Hingsen is another in my list who I loved watching, but loved watching him get beat!
I guess if you asked a comic book fan who their favourite characters were, they'd have some villains in there as well as heroes. Same thing here (for me, anyway)
Asafa Powell: Didn't notice him in the 2003 WC. Was looking for him to do something big in Athens. But, hey, it was his first Olympics. Fifth place is not bad. A lot of athletes need to get one Oly out of their system before they rock the next one. World Record in '05! How can you not love that?! Disappointed about him being injured for the WC. But again, he's young; he'll have plenty of majors to win coming up, right? 2006. Kind of a bummer to have your best season in the one off year of a four year cycle. But, did he have his best year because it was an off year? Regardless, to equal to WR twice in one year is amazing. Three 9.77s! Reminds me of 21.71. Plus, he finally did get his Gold medal. Even though it was in the Commonwealths.
I'm fully expecting 2007 to be Asafa's year. He's coming off his best year and no one is looking better. I was shocked! Shocked I tell you, that he didn't win the WC 100. I knew Tyson was running well. But, on paper, Tyson should not have won, and I think he knew it. Must have been the Jesse Owens stripes on his uniform. As dissappointing as Asafa's loss was, they WAY he lost was even more so. To 'give up' when Tyson came up on him. And admit that later. Plus, not to salvage silver was even worse. Later in the year, a new WR with a new, lower time was nice though.
Bejing obviously saw Usain's 100m arrival. However, Asafa not getting a medal is starting to get ridiulous. I've made enough excuses for him, but he's still a favorite of mine. Missing a WC Gold is one thing, because you get twice the chances to get one as an Oly Gold. But, to not get an Oly medal at all is terrible. Then he goes again and sets a PR after bombing the Oly finals. ???? I've pretty much given up on him getting an individual WC/Oly Gold at this point. His poor history with majors and Usain seems to have sealed the deal. I was hoping he would get a silver at Berlin, but his bronze didn't faze me at this point. And the injury in Dageau? Whatever.
As Mo Green was Mr. sub-10, Asafa is Mr. sub-9.9. I really enjoyed following his career: the fast times, the 100 WRs, the 4x1 WRs, the Commonwealth and WAF Golds.
Yargelis Savinge Such an artistically beautiful athlete to watch. I love side view photos of her in mid step flight. Great WC meet results, still waiting on some Oly hardware. Fantastic 15.28 PR. Love those 15+ meter jumps.
SAFP The surprise and excitement on her face winning Bejing sealed the deal for me. Fan for life. Love those explosive starts. Interesting to watch her exploring the 200m more now.
Christine Arron I always felt bad for the women running against Marion. As much as I liked Marion at the time, I also liked when other women beat her. It's no fun if one athlete wins everytime. So, I rooted for Zhanna Pintusevich, Inger Miller and Christine. Something about Christine I just can't put my finger on, but she stood out from all the other women. Too bad she didn't get the 100m Gold in Helsinki (but it was fun watching Lauryn get it!)