¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles DQed; Richardson Gold!


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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Alucard » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:06 pm

Can't wait to read your next T&F News editorial :D
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby toyracer » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:26 pm

gh wrote:OK, so I can "understand" (and hate) a 3 semis with 2+2, if you're down to just 2 semis (you know, like god intended), WTF is up with this sudden 3+2 bullshit? This stuff continues to amaze me.


Agreed!
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Per Andersen » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:20 pm

Marlow wrote:
gm wrote:
Per Andersen wrote:He's within the norm of what is technically acceptable.

I agree with Per. Nothing at all wrong with Richardson's technique. It suits him perfectly. He is a delight to watch.

Ummm, he's really not anywhere near the 'normal' technical model. The technical model does not advocate that long swim motion, because it's not conducive to 'quick' levers getting up to the hurdle. Now, that said, you'd be crazy to try and break him of it now. I would not teach it, but sometimes athletes figure out what's best for themselves despite a coach trying to cram them into a technical model. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Man, It looks like we are in agreement then. How about that :shock:
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Letlôtse » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:03 am

I've just seen the bull**** for myself and can not believe it.

Is someone purposefully messing around ?

Why the hell would you not just take the top four from a two heat semi-final ?
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby shivfan » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:02 am

1) Liu Xiang 13.31
Robles and Merritt very close behind....

Turner fourth, and was Phillips fifth?
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby croflash » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:05 am

Robles is such a great technician, he looked in complete control.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Letlôtse » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:07 am

I'm hoping the final will be as close as that first semi-final.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby shivfan » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:11 am

1) Richardson 13.11
2) Oliver
3) Sharman
4) Thomas - may just have made it as a fastest loser....
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Letlôtse » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:13 am

Maybe David Oliver thinks he can run through the hurdles rather than over them.

Richardson looked very good.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby croflash » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:14 am

If Oliver can't improve his start in a hurry which is unlikely, he will be going home without a medal. Richardson continues right where he left off before the break.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby t_monk » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:18 am

Robles is golden if you ask me.... Richardson might beat Lui for silver and from what I see, Oliver is just out of it for now.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby t_monk » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:28 am

110 Metres Hurdles - M Final
WR 12.87 Robles Dayron (CUB) - Ostrava, 12/06/2008
29 August 2011 - 21:25
Lane Bib Athlete Country 2011 PB
1 463 Andrew Turner [GREAT BRITAIN & N.I.] GBR 13.22 13.22
2 608 Dwight Thomas [JAMAICA] JAM 13.15 13.15
3 1114 Jason Richardson [UNITED STATES] USA 13.08 13.08
4 1108 David Oliver [UNITED STATES] USA 12.94 12.89
5 286 Dayron Robles [CUBA] CUB 13.04 12.87
6 246 Xiang Liu [PR OF CHINA] CHN 13.00 12.88
7 1098 Aries Merritt [UNITED STATES] USA 13.12 13.09
8 459 William Sharman [GREAT BRITAIN & N.I.] GBR 13.47 13.30
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby shivfan » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:28 am

Thomas crashes out of the 110 hurdles final....

Robles wins in 13.14. Richardson second 13.16, Xiang third in 13.27.

Clash of hands between Robles and Liu?
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Gabriella » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:29 am

Well I hope Robles get's DQed as the replay clearly shows he pulled back Xiang (by accident) but twice, costing the Chinese gold.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby ATK » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:30 am

Twice they hit each other
Oliver 5th or 4th?
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Top_end_speed » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:30 am

Robles and Xiang collided before the final hurdle which caused Xiang to fumble in the last hurdle. Gold should have been his but still congrats to Robles.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby Top_end_speed » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:31 am

ATK wrote:Twice they hit each other
Oliver 5th or 4th?

5th turner got 4th
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby guru » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:31 am

Gabriella wrote:Well I hope Robles get's DQed as the replay clearly shows he pulled back Xiang (by accident) but twice, costing the Chinese gold.



Definitely impeded Liu off the final hurdle.
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby croflash » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:32 am

Robles cements his place in history :D
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby Gabriella » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:33 am

If the Chinese team protests and Robles get's DQed Turner would get bronze! :shock:
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Re: 2011 WC: m110H—

Postby tm71 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:33 am

jason richardson almost at the line !!! what a finish !!
oliver was the biggest disappointment of them all, all the way down to 5th. it was obvious from the diamond league that he would struggle here too
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby gh » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:33 am

As in London, Oliver's approach to the first hurdle was all out of whack
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Did Robles block Liu?

Postby 3 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:36 am

Impeded and impeded --- it's up for grabs. Robles remained in his lane - his arms flailed. Liu ran close to the inside of his own lane.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby nicest person ever » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:36 am

DAMN IT.

That was horseshit.

Liu Xiang was clearly gaining hard on Robles, and then even passed him slightly and was about to win it, but Robles right forearm hit and pushed backwards against the front of Liu Xiang's left forearm, significantly, pushing Liu Xiang's momentum backwards slightly, and Robles' momentum forwards slightly, causing Liu to trip over the last hurdle and lose, while causing Robles to fly over the last hurdle and win.

Fuck that.

Liu Xiang was the true best hurdler in that race, and should be the one with the Gold medal right now.

That was seriously messed up.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby efua ninsin » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:37 am

weren't both of them affected by the hands collided. i think it would be unfair to dq him. it was not intentional
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby Gabriella » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:39 am

Intentional or not, he impeded him. It should be a DQ
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby guru » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:40 am

gh wrote:As in London, Oliver's approach to the first hurdle was all out of whack



For all that Oliver has accomplished, he has yet to be the top American at a global championship, much less a gold medalist. Terrific run by the 25 year-old Richardson.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby nicest person ever » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:41 am

efua ninsin wrote:weren't both of them affected by the hands collided. i think it would be unfair to dq him. it was not intentional


I agree that it was not intentional.

I don't think Robles should be DQ'd

I'm just saying, it sucks, cuz the guy who was clearly the faster of the two, and was clearly going to win it, ended up not winning, due to the shitty luck of getting pushed backwards by Roble's arm just prior to jumping over the last hurdle, throwing him off balance and draining a bit of his momentum, costing him the win.

You could tell pretty clearly that Xiang was gaining steadily, very noticeably, and had already passed Robles and was on his was to a win, just before the collision and Xiang getting fucked into not winning.

Very frustrating.

Xiang was the faster hurdler in that race today. Damn. That sucks.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby efua ninsin » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:45 am

i dont know how you say he was clearly going to win it when they were in a straight for good deal of the race
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby nicest person ever » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:45 am

Gabriella wrote:Intentional or not, he impeded him. It should be a DQ


I would agree with this if it had been Robles that had shifted over towards Xiang's lane and accidentally impeded him, but since it was Xiang who moved a bit towards Robles' lane and put himself in a situation to get accidentally impeded, they probably won't DQ Robles, and probably shouldn't DQ Robles, as that would be unfair.

That said, this still totally sucks, cuz it was extremely obvious that Xiang was on his way to a victory, to anyone who has eyeballs, and that he just got pwnt out of it by bad luck cuz of that collision just before the last hurdle. I am a Liu Xiang fan, so I'm very saddened by this. Damn. I could see the victory in his sights as he was zooming past Robles, and then it all just goes to shit like that. Sigh.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby Vielleicht » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:45 am

Fuck it, this is such a great shame.

But Liu Xiang is indeed a classy guy, he just told the Chinese reporter that he doesn't blame it on Robles. Ah! It's always sad to see a good guy lose to misfortune. :|
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby gibson » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:01 am

This championship is not useful in determining who is best at what thus far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_sQF45iHSg

My freeze frame gives Liu the probable win, just in front and accelerating faster than Robles.

Liu is back.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby gh » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:13 am

rumors buzzing that it's indeed a DQ.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby tm71 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:18 am

doubt they will dq him, it did not seem blatant. liu is definitely classy, imagine if this had happened in the men's 100 or in a few other team sports...

just saw it too that robles got dqed, and the commentators just mentioned it as they went off the air ! i hate for any event not to be decided on the track or field. i can hear and read the ramblings on this one !!!
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—the cover jinx!!!!!!!!!

Postby gm » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:21 am

Yikes! The results now showing a Robles DQ!

Richardson with the gold. Brilliant run, JaiRich.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—the cover jinx!!!!!!!!!

Postby croflash » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:22 am

:?
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—the cover jinx!!!!!!!!!

Postby gh » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:22 am

appeal is filed, of course
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—the cover jinx!!!!!!!!!

Postby Top_end_speed » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:22 am

Robes has been DQ.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—Robles wins big showdown

Postby guru » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:23 am

tm71 wrote:doubt they will dq him, it did not seem blatant.



If Robles made contact in Liu's lane his intent won't matter. There's no doubting it upset Liu's momentum and form coming off 10.
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Re: ¶2011 WC: m110H—the cover jinx!!!!!!!!!

Postby Letlôtse » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:24 am

gm wrote:Yikes! The results now showing a Robles DQ!

Richardson with the gold. Brilliant run, JaiRich.

Oh that is the height of bull****. That just tops it off.
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