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Postby bushop » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:52 am

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Goal of 30 medals still on USA track team’s radar
Hightower said, “The way he went about putting out the goals was pretty unorthodox... It’s done, and our high-performance plan is based upon getting 30 medals. We’re still moving down that path...”

Who could win these "thirty medals"?

• your contenders picks:
01.) Jeshua Anderson (long hurdles)
02.) Christian Cantwell (shot put)
04.) Danielle Carruthers (sprint hurdles)
05.) Kerron Clement (long hurdles)
06.) Lashinda Demus (long hurdles)
07.) Walter Dix (sprints)
08.) Ashton Eaton (multis)
09.) Allyson Felix (long sprints)
10.) Shalane Flanagan (distance)
11.) Hyleas Fountain (multis)
12.) Justin Gatlin (sprints)
13.) Tyson Gay (sprints)
14.) Goodwin (long jump)
15.) Trey Hardee (multis)
16.) Dawn Harper (sprint hurdles)
17.) Queen Harrison
18.) Reese Hoffa (shot put)
19.) Bershawn Jackson (long hurdles)
20.) Carmelita Jeter (sprints)
21.) Chelsea Johnson (vault)
22.) Kibwé Johnson (hammer)
23.) Bernard Lagat (distance)
24.) Chaunte Lowe (high jump)
25.) Tony McQuay (400 meters)
27.) Aries Merritt (sprint hurdles)
27.) LaShawn Merritt (400 meters)
28.) Derek Miles (vault)
29.) Marshevet Myers (sprints)
30.) Adam Nelson (shot put)
31.) David Oliver (sprint hurdles)
32.) Dwight Phillips (long jump)
33.) Brittney Reese (long jump)
34.) Sanya Richards (400 meters)
35.) Jason Richardson (sprint hurdles)
36.) Jenny Simpson (1500 meters)
37.) Jenn Suhr (vault)
38.) Taylor (horizontal jumps)
39.) Angelo Taylor (long hurdles | 400 meters)
40.) Stephanie Brown Trafton (discus)
41.) Jeremy Wariner (400 meters)
42.) Jillian Camarena-Williams (shot put)
43.) Kellie Wells (sprint hurdles)
44.) Jesse Williams (high jump)
45.) women's 4x100m
46.) men's 4x100m
47.) women's 4x400m
48.) men's 4x400m

• questionable?
01.) Bryan Clay (multis)
02.) Shawn Crawford (sprints)
03.) Lolo Jones (sprint hurdles)
04.) Shannon Rowbury (1500 meters)
05.) Terrence Trammell (sprint hurdles)
06.) Brad Walker (vault)
07.) Sheena Tosta (long hurdles)
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:32 am

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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby GDAWG » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:55 am

bushop wrote:Image
Goal of 30 medals still on USA track team’s radar
Hightower said, “The way he went about putting out the goals was pretty unorthodox... It’s done, and our high-performance plan is based upon getting 30 medals. We’re still moving down that path...”

Who could win these "thirty medals"?

• your picks:
01.) Jeshua Anderson (long hurdles)
02.) Christian Cantwell (shot put)
03.) Bryan Clay (multis)
04.) Kerron Clement (long hurdles)
05.) Shawn Crawford (200 meters)
06.) Lashinda Demus (long hurdles)
07.) Walter Dix (100 | 200 meters)
08.) Ashton Eaton (multis)
09.) Allyson Felix (200 | 400 meters)
10.) Shalane Flanagan (distance)
11.) Hyleas Fountain (multis)
12.) Tyson Gay (100 | 200 meters)
13.) Dawn Harper (sprint hurdles)
14.) Reese Hoffa (shot put)
15.) Bershawn Jackson (long hurdles)
16.) Carmelita Jeter (100 | 200 meters)
17.) Chelsea Johnson (vault)
18.) Kibwé Johnson (hammer)
19.) Lolo Jones (sprint hurdles)
20.) Bernard Lagat (distance)
21.) Tony McQuay (400 meters)
22.) Aries Merritt (sprint hurdles)
23.) LaShawn Merritt (400 meters)
24.) Derek Miles (vault)
25.) Adam Nelson (shot put)
26.) David Oliver (sprint hurdles)
27.) Dwight Phillips (long jump)
28.) Brittney Reese (long jump)
29.) Sanya Richards (400 meters)
30.) Shannon Rowbury (1500 meters)
31.) Jenn Suhr (vault)
32.) Angelo Taylor (long hurdles | 400 meters)
33.) Sheena Tosta (long hurdles)
34.) Stephanie Brown Trafton (discus)
35.) Terrence Trammell (sprint hurdles)
36.) Brad Walker (vault)
37.) Jeremy Wariner (400 meters)
38.) Jillian Camarena-Williams (shot put)
39.) who else...?


39. Kellie Wells
40. Danielle Carruthers
41. Marshevet Myers

Wildcard: Chaunte Lowe

If Wells performs next year like she's been doing this year, she would be the favorite to win the gold medal coming into London. Carruthers has also been doing well.

We'll see if London 2012 is finally going to be the year that Lagat, Richards-Ross and Felix win gold medals. If Lagat doesn't win a gold medal in 2012, I don't think it takes away from all he's accomplished.
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:46 pm

bushop wrote:Image
Goal of 30 medals still on USA track team’s radar
Hightower said, “The way he went about putting out the goals was pretty unorthodox... It’s done, and our high-performance plan is based upon getting 30 medals. We’re still moving down that path...”

Who could win these "thirty medals"?

• your picks:

03.) Bryan Clay (multis)

05.) Shawn Crawford (200 meters)


11.) Hyleas Fountain (multis)
12.) Tyson Gay (100 | 200 meters)

17.) Chelsea Johnson (vault)

19.) Lolo Jones (sprint hurdles)

22.) Aries Merritt (sprint hurdles)

29.) Sanya Richards (400 meters)
30.) Shannon Rowbury (1500 meters)
31.) Jenn Suhr (vault)

35.) Terrence Trammell (sprint hurdles)
36.) Brad Walker (vault)


There are at least question marks for many of these athletes.
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby AS » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:18 pm

No love for Trey Hardee?? (I'd swap him out for Bryan Clay at this point)
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby AS » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:19 pm

And I thought Chelsea Johnson had retired.
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby GDAWG » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:34 pm

I see Sheena Tosta's name on the list. That's interesting. I know she didn't make it on the national team this year, but when it comes time for competing for a spot in the Olympics, she does very well in nationals and does very well in the Olympics (finished 4th in 2004 and silver medalist in 2008). One wonders though if her time has passed. I know it has for Tiffany Ross-Williams. If it has, I'd replace her on that list with Queen Harrison.
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby Marlow » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:06 pm

my picks, i.e., legit medal contenders:

01.) Jeshua Anderson (long hurdles)
02.) Christian Cantwell (shot put)
03.) Bryan Clay (multis)
04.) Kerron Clement (long hurdles)
05.) Shawn Crawford (200 meters) ............... no
06.) Lashinda Demus (long hurdles)
07.) Walter Dix (100 | 200 meters)
08.) Ashton Eaton (multis)
09.) Allyson Felix (200 | 400 meters)
10.) Shalane Flanagan (distance)
11.) Hyleas Fountain (multis)
12.) Tyson Gay (100 | 200 meters)
13.) Dawn Harper (sprint hurdles)
14.) Reese Hoffa (shot put)
15.) Bershawn Jackson (long hurdles)
16.) Carmelita Jeter (100 | 200 meters)
17.) Chelsea Johnson (vault) ..................no
18.) Kibwé Johnson (hammer)
19.) Lolo Jones (sprint hurdles)
20.) Bernard Lagat (distance)
21.) Tony McQuay (400 meters)
22.) Aries Merritt (sprint hurdles)
23.) LaShawn Merritt (400 meters)
24.) Derek Miles (vault)
25.) Adam Nelson (shot put)
26.) David Oliver (sprint hurdles)
27.) Dwight Phillips (long jump)
28.) Brittney Reese (long jump)
29.) Sanya Richards (400 meters)
30.) Shannon Rowbury (1500 meters)...............no
31.) Jenn Suhr (vault)
32.) Angelo Taylor (long hurdles | 400 meters)
33.) Sheena Tosta (long hurdles).....................no
34.) Stephanie Brown Trafton (discus)
35.) Terrence Trammell (sprint hurdles).............no
36.) Brad Walker (vault)
37.) Jeremy Wariner (400 meters)
38.) Jillian Camarena-Williams (shot put)
39. Kellie Wells
40. Danielle Carruthers
41. Marshevet Myers
42. Chaunte Lowe

+ Gatlin
+ all 4 relays
+ Goodwin
+ C Taylor
+ Cantwell
+ Nelson
+ Hoffa
+ Hardee
+ J. Williams

so that's 54 - the 5 above = 49 medal shots. My prediction: at least half of those = 25.

Actually I see a reasonable expectation of around 17-18 men and 12-13 women, so there's your 30!!
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby GDAWG » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:36 pm

You could replace Sheena Tosta on that list with Queen Harrison.
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby tm71 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:56 pm

it is extremely unlikely that even 3/4 of that list would make the team and be contenders by next summer.
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:39 pm

tm71 wrote:it is extremely unlikely that even 3/4 of that list would make the team and be contenders by next summer.
Agreed... but which ones?
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby Marlow » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:50 pm

tm71 wrote:it is extremely unlikely that even 3/4 of that list would make the team and be contenders by next summer.

I'd bet over half will.
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Re: USA's London Olympics medal contenders

Postby GDAWG » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:07 pm

bushop wrote:
tm71 wrote:it is extremely unlikely that even 3/4 of that list would make the team and be contenders by next summer.
Agreed... but which ones?


You can already eliminate Shawn Crawford, Terrance Trammell and Sheena Tosta off the list. If the US Nationals are any indication, all three may be done with being a part of the US Team, although Tosta does step it up during Olympic years. However, with the emergence of Queen Harrison, that may not happen. Not sure if Lolo Jones can rebound, but doubtful, especially if Dawn Harper, Danielle Carruthers and Kellie Wells ride their momentum into next season.

Crawford and Trammell have had nice careers and it would not surprise me to see either of them retire if neither make the Olympic Squad next year.
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Re: USA's London Olympic [Daegu Worlds] medal contenders

Postby bushop » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:24 am

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100m:
Carmelita Jeter Image
200m:
Carmelita Jeter Image
Allyson Felix Image
400m:
Allyson Felix Image
1500m:
Jenny Simpson Image
400m hurdles:
Lashinda Demus Image
long jump:
Brittney Reese Image
shot put:
Jillian Camarena-Williams Image

100m:
Walter Dix Image
400m:
LaShawn Merritt Image
sprint hurdles:
Jason Richardson Image
4x400m:
USA Image
high jump:
Jesse Williams Image
long jump:
Dwight Phillips Image
decathlon:
Trey Hardee Image
Ashton Eaton Image

gold Image
silver Image
bronze Image
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Re: USA's London Olympic [Daegu Worlds] medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:34 pm

Moura wrote:I think was successful, but I still believe that will be very hard to get 30 medal in London. I know that some stars did not participate in this WC, but is usual that some miss a major due to injury or bad performance in US nationals or even doping. This time was Wariner, Gay, Love, Clay for example. Next year can be others, for example Merritt (400) can be not elegible to participate in OG due to doping problem. One interesting fact from this WC, is female and male US teams had very similar performances which is unusual as in other majors US male team won much more medals than female team. Other interesting fact, the strength of US is usually sprints and hurdles. In male in 7 events (5 individual ans 2 relays) only get 5 medals in total and just two were gold. In female things were much better with 9 medals and 4 gold.
Anyway this WC "discovered" new stars from US such as Simpson, Taylor, Centrowitz and Claye which seem to me that can in London also contribute for US medalling. It is too early to predict for London, as new stars will appear, some athletes who underperform in this WC will come back much stronger and some champs from this WC will surely fail in London. To get 30 medal in London, I think US has to have all their best athletes healthy which is not very probable to happen.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Dave » Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:00 pm

Walker could contend for a medal if he gets healthy. Derek Miles cannot.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:37 pm

Is “Project 30″ still a possibility?
September 6, 2011
"Beyond confirming its status as the world’s best track & field nation, the question is asked about whether the team is living up to its enormous potential, and as a corollary, whether ex-USA Track & Field chief executive Doug Logan’s goal of 30 medals at the 2012 Olympic Games is possible."
Men: Sprints & Relays:
• Walter Dix
• LaShawn Merritt
• Tyson Gay
• Michael Berry
• Tony McQuay
• 4x100m
• 4x400m
Men: Middle Distances:
• Bernard Lagat
• Nick Symmonds
• Robby Andrews, perhaps?
• Matthew Centrowitz
Men: Distances:
• Bernard Lagat
• Galen Rupp
• Chris Solinsky
What about the steeple? Next.
Men: Hurdles:
• three medals
Men: Jumps:
• Jesse Williams
• Will Claye
• Christian Taylor
• Dwight Phillips
Men: Throws:
• Whomever makes the team in shot put
• Kibwé Johnson*
Men: Decathlon:
• Trey Hardee
• Ashton Eaton
• Bryan Clay
Women: Sprints & Relays:
• Carmelita Jeter
• Marshevet Myers
• Allyson Felix likely
• Sholanda Solomon
• Sanya Richards-Ross
• Francena McCorory
• Jessica Beard
• Debbie Dunn
• Alysia Johnson Montano
• Maggie Vessey
• Shannon Rowbury
• Morgan Uceny
• Jenny Simpson
• Anna Pierce
Women: Distances:
• Shalane Flanagan
• Lauren Fleshman
• Kara Goucher
• Amy Hastings
Women: Hurdles:
• Dawn Harper
• Kellie Wells
• Lolo Jones
• Ginnie Powell
• Lashinda Demus
• Turqoise Thompson
Women: Jumps:
• Brigitta Barrett
• Jenn Suhr
• Brittney Reese
• Janey DeLoach
• Funmi Jimoh
Women: Throws:
• Jillian Camarena-Williams for her bronze medal in the Daegu shot and
• Stephanie Brown Trafton
• Kara Patterson
Women: Heptathlon:
• Hyleas Fountain

So, can the Americans win 30 track & field medals in 2012? Yes: here’s how:
•: Men: 17 (won 13 in Daegu): 100 (1), 200 (1), 400 (1), 800 or 1500 (1), 5000 (1), 110H (1), 400H (2), 4×100 (1), 4×400 (1), HJ (1), LJ (1), TJ (1), SP (1), Dec (3).
• Women 13 (won 12 in Daegu): 100 (1), 200 (2), 400 (1), 800 or 1500 (1), 100H (2), 400H (1), 4×100 (1), 4×400 (1), PV (1), LJ (1), SP or DT (1).
And there is room for improvement even on that projection, in the men’s 200 m, the long jump, triple jump and shot put, and the women’s long jump and shot or discus.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby GDAWG » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:21 pm

bushop wrote:Is “Project 30″ still a possibility?
September 6, 2011
"Beyond confirming its status as the world’s best track & field nation, the question is asked about whether the team is living up to its enormous potential, and as a corollary, whether ex-USA Track & Field chief executive Doug Logan’s goal of 30 medals at the 2012 Olympic Games is possible."
Men: Sprints & Relays:
• Walter Dix
• LaShawn Merritt
• Tyson Gay
• Michael Berry
• Tony McQuay
• 4x100m
• 4x400m
Men: Middle Distances:
• Bernard Lagat
• Nick Symmonds
• Robby Andrews, perhaps?
• Matthew Centrowitz
Men: Distances:
• Bernard Lagat
• Galen Rupp
• Chris Solinsky
What about the steeple? Next.
Men: Hurdles:
• three medals
Men: Jumps:
• Jesse Williams
• Will Claye
• Christian Taylor
• Dwight Phillips
Men: Throws:
• Whomever makes the team in shot put
• Kibwé Johnson*
Men: Decathlon:
• Trey Hardee
• Ashton Eaton
• Bryan Clay
Women: Sprints & Relays:
• Carmelita Jeter
• Marshevet Myers
• Allyson Felix likely
• Sholanda Solomon
• Sanya Richards-Ross
• Francena McCorory
• Jessica Beard
• Debbie Dunn
• Alysia Johnson Montano
• Maggie Vessey
• Shannon Rowbury
• Morgan Uceny
• Jenny Simpson
• Anna Pierce
Women: Distances:
• Shalane Flanagan
• Lauren Fleshman
• Kara Goucher
• Amy Hastings
Women: Hurdles:
• Dawn Harper
• Kellie Wells
• Lolo Jones
• Ginnie Powell
• Lashinda Demus
• Turqoise Thompson
Women: Jumps:
• Brigitta Barrett
• Jenn Suhr
• Brittney Reese
• Janey DeLoach
• Funmi Jimoh
Women: Throws:
• Jillian Camarena-Williams for her bronze medal in the Daegu shot and
• Stephanie Brown Trafton
• Kara Patterson
Women: Heptathlon:
• Hyleas Fountain

So, can the Americans win 30 track & field medals in 2012? Yes: here’s how:
•: Men: 17 (won 13 in Daegu): 100 (1), 200 (1), 400 (1), 800 or 1500 (1), 5000 (1), 110H (1), 400H (2), 4×100 (1), 4×400 (1), HJ (1), LJ (1), TJ (1), SP (1), Dec (3).
• Women 13 (won 12 in Daegu): 100 (1), 200 (2), 400 (1), 800 or 1500 (1), 100H (2), 400H (1), 4×100 (1), 4×400 (1), PV (1), LJ (1), SP or DT (1).
And there is room for improvement even on that projection, in the men’s 200 m, the long jump, triple jump and shot put, and the women’s long jump and shot or discus.


Thompson any good?
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:47 pm

Still the goals for some...
US coaches like chances for 30-medal Olympic haul
"There is a lot of opportunity to get those 30 medals," Valmon said.
The 30-medal goal for London was set by former USA Track and Field chief executive Doug Logan and backed by new chief executive Max Siegel, who took over last month.
Americans claimed 23 medals from athletics at Beijing with seven golds, nine silvers and seven bronzes."
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:55 pm

Who could win these "thirty medals"?

• your contenders picks, a few will not be in the team:
01.) Ashton Eaton (multis)
02.) Christian Cantwell (shot put)
03.) Allyson Felix (sprints)
04.) Hyleas Fountain (multis)
05.) Jeshua Anderson (long hurdles)
06.) Danielle Carruthers (sprint hurdles)
07.) Kerron Clement (long hurdles)
08.) Lashinda Demus (long hurdles)
09.) Walter Dix (sprints)
10.) Shalane Flanagan (distance)
12.) Justin Gatlin (sprints)
13.) Tyson Gay (sprints)
14.) Marquise Goodwin (long jump)
15.) Trey Hardee (multis)
16.) Dawn Harper (sprint hurdles)
17.) Queen Harrison(sprint hurdles)
18.) Reese Hoffa (shot put)
19.) Bershawn Jackson (long hurdles)
20.) Carmelita Jeter (sprints)
21.) Chelsea Johnson (vault)
22.) Kibwé Johnson (hammer)
23.) Bernard Lagat (distance)
24.) Chaunte Lowe (high jump)
25.) Tony McQuay (400 meters)
27.) Aries Merritt (sprint hurdles)
27.) LaShawn Merritt (400 meters)
28.) Derek Miles (vault)
29.) Marshevet Myers (sprints)
30.) Adam Nelson (shot put)
31.) David Oliver (sprint hurdles)
32.) Dwight Phillips (long jump)
33.) Brittney Reese (long jump)
34.) Sanya Richards (400 meters)
35.) Jason Richardson (sprint hurdles)
36.) Jenny Simpson (1500 meters)
37.) Jenn Suhr (vault)
38.) Taylor (horizontal jumps)
39.) Angelo Taylor (long hurdles | 400 meters)
40.) Stephanie Brown Trafton (discus)
41.) Jeremy Wariner (400 meters)
42.) Jillian Camarena-Williams (shot put)
43.) Kellie Wells (sprint hurdles)
44.) Jesse Williams (high jump)
45.) women's 4x100m
46.) men's 4x100m
47.) women's 4x400m
48.) men's 4x400m
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:05 pm

Who could win these "thirty medals"?

• your contenders picks:
01.) Ashton Eaton (multis)
02.) Trey Hardee (multis)
03.) Christian Cantwell (shot put)
04.) Reese Hoffa (shot put)
05.) Ryan Whiting (shot put)
06.) Jenn Suhr (vault)
07.) Justin Gatlin (sprints)
08.) Tyson Gay (sprints)
09.) Marquise Goodwin (long jump)
10.) Kellie Wells (sprint hurdles)
11.) Dawn Harper (sprint hurdles)
12.) Carmelita Jeter (sprints)
13.) Kibwé Johnson (hammer)
14.) Tony McQuay (400 meters)
15.) LaShawn Merritt (400 meters)
16.) Sanya Richards (400 meters)
17.) Jesse Williams (high jump)
18.) Allyson Felix (sprints)
19.) Derek Miles (vault)
20.) Hyleas Fountain (multis)
21.) Angelo Taylor (long hurdles)
22.) Kerron Clement (long hurdles)
23.) Jeshua Anderson (long hurdles)
24.) Lashinda Demus (long hurdles)
25.) Shalane Flanagan (distance)
26.) Bershawn Jackson (long hurdles)
27.) Aries Merritt (sprint hurdles)
28.) Jason Richardson (sprint hurdles)
29.) David Oliver (sprint hurdles)
30.) Jillian Camarena-Williams (shot put)
31.) Bernard Lagat (distance)
32.) Chaunte Lowe (high jump)
33.) Brittney Reese (long jump)
34.) Jenny Simpson (1500 meters)
35.) Christian Taylor (triple jump)
36.) Stephanie Brown Trafton (discus)
37.) women's 4x100m
38.) men's 4x100m
39.) women's 4x400m
40.) men's 4x400m[/quote]

... who to add, who to take away?
j-a-m wrote:
bushop wrote:Chelsea Johnson
She's not on the team, neither's Marshevet.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:00 pm

2012 could be a very good year for U.S. track and field team
July 3, 2012
"... at the U.S. Olympic trials was an array of world-class races and enough noteworthy leaps and bounds to suggest the team will come close to its goal of 30 medals at the London Games."
Allyson Felix (200m)
Tyson Gay (100m)
Justin Gatlin (100m)
Wallace Spearmon Jr (200m)
Sanya Richards-Ross (400m)
Aries Merritt (sprint hurdles)
Jason Richardson (sprint hurdles)
Ashton Eaton (multis)
Lashinda Demus (400m hurdles)
Jenny Simpson (mile)
Morgan Uceny (mile)
Chaunte Lowe (hight jump)
Brigetta Barrett (hight jump)
Alysia Johnson Montano (½ mile)
Galen Rupp (distance)
Christian Taylor (triple jump)
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:00 am

Is this the worst USA athletics team ever?
5 July 2012
"The 'roster' contains a lot of 'tourists', athletes with little hope of winning a medal. The Star-Spangled Banner no longer sparkles. Dwight Stones, said: 'I'm disturbed by our lack of depth. Our system is showing its vulnerability. The cause is not enough high-quality coaches and not enough money. Until we address that, we're going to see standards continuing to fall.' "
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:27 pm

Track & Field News' predictions:
17 men’s medals...
100m Tyson Gay
200m Wallace Spearmon
400m LaShawn Merritt
5k Bernard Lagat
10k Galen Rupp
110m h Jason Richardson, Aries Merritt
400m h Kerron Clement
4x100m
4x400m
HJ Jesse Williams
TJ Christian Taylor, Will Claye
SP Reese Hoffa, Ryan Whiting
Dec Ashton Eaton, Trey Hardee
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Postby GHM » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:40 pm

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index. ... -only/1189

I like Wallace Spearmon but piking him 2nd in 200m is a stretch if Jamaicans are healthy.
I pick a healthy US runner to get bronze in 100m and 400m. IMO this is a very weak men US team and I hope I am wrong.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:26 pm

Track and field: U.S. seeking 30 medals after bungle of Beijing
July 8, 2012
"Still, 30 track and field medals might be a stretch. The United States has not brought home that many in 20 years. The Americans won 23 medals in Beijing, and only seven were gold."
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby tm71 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:04 pm

Interesting how 15 out of 45 of the individuals listed in the original list didn't make it in individual events. A few that made the team will be long shots or require a huge performance to make the podium. Even some of the daegu medalist will have a hard time getting back on the podium (camarena-Williams, centrowicz, simpson will have a hard time repeating their feats this time). But again I don't see getting shut out in the men's 400 h and shot like in Korea. However, the total of 30 seems unrealistic.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby j-a-m » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:45 pm

tm71 wrote:However, the total of 30 seems unrealistic.

My guess would be between 25 and 28 medals overall, still a pretty good result.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:21 pm

Track & Field News' predicts 29 medals:
12 women’s medals...
100m Carmelita Jeter
200m Carmelita Jeter, Allyson Felix
400m Sanya Richards-Ross
100m h Dawn Harper
400m h Lashinda Demus
4x100m
4x400m
HJ Chaunté Lowe
PV Jenn Suhr
LJ Brittney Reese
SP Jill Camarena-Williams
17 men’s medals...
100m Tyson Gay
200m Wallace Spearmon
400m LaShawn Merritt
5k Bernard Lagat
10k Galen Rupp
110m h Jason Richardson, Aries Merritt
400m h Kerron Clement
4x100m
4x400m
HJ Jesse Williams
TJ Christian Taylor, Will Claye
SP Reese Hoffa, Ryan Whiting
Dec Ashton Eaton, Trey Hardee
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby j-a-m » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:47 pm

bushop wrote:Track & Field News' predicts 29 medals:

On the women's side that seems about right; on the men's side probably a few that are a bit optimistic.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:34 am

Track & Field News' still predicts 29 medals:
12 women’s medals...
100m Carmelita Jeter
200m Allyson Felix, Carmelita Jeter
400m Sanya Richards-Ross
100m h Dawn Harper, Kellie Wells
400m h Lashinda Demus
4x100m
4x400m
HJ Chaunté Lowe
PV Jenn Suhr
LJ Brittney Reese
17 men’s medals...
100m Tyson Gay
200m Wallace Spearmon
400m LaShawn Merritt
5k Bernard Lagat
10k Galen Rupp
110m h Aries Merritt, Jason Richardson
400m h Angelo Taylor
4x100m
4x400m
HJ Jesse Williams
PV Brad Walker
TJ Christian Taylor, Will Claye
SP Reese Hoffa
Dec Ashton Eaton, Trey Hardee
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Marlow » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:18 am

I'll say 25 is a good guess, but if that's the over/under, I'll take OVER!
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:34 pm

Marlow wrote:I'll say 25 is a good guess, but if that's the over/under, I'll take OVER!

Who are your drop/adds from T&F News' picks?
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Marlow » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:39 am

bushop wrote:
Marlow wrote:I'll say 25 is a good guess, but if that's the over/under, I'll take OVER!

Who are your drop/adds from T&F News' picks?

I have
Men - 7 golds, 16 medals
Women - 7 golds, 13 medals

that's 29 medals, but I also know I have a natural US bias, so we won't get all 29.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Runnerz76 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:54 am

Marlow wrote:
bushop wrote:
Marlow wrote:I'll say 25 is a good guess, but if that's the over/under, I'll take OVER!

Who are your drop/adds from T&F News' picks?

I have
Men - 7 golds, 16 medals
Women - 7 golds, 13 medals

that's 29 medals, but I also know I have a natural US bias, so we won't get all 29.


Marlow, I have the USA getting exactly 30 medals (McQuay and Rupp included), and I try very hard not to be a homer. You commented about doing so much research and then having similar picks to T&F News. I feel the exact same way. I worked my tail off this year, and then I find that T&F News has similar picks. But I do have some long shots in there that other people dont have (men's long jump, men's hammer, and women's 400m). I hope to see your picks in the Netherlands contest.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby olorin » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:41 pm

bushop wrote:Track & Field News' predicts 29 medals:
12 women’s medals...

I think that 29 medals for the US is a bit too optimistic as I predict "only" 26. The problem is not with individual predictions (they all make sense) but with the summing of these predictions to one number. For example let’s look at the 5,000m & 10000m. According to the prediction the US is expected to win two medals (Laggat & Rupp). I believe that Laggat’s chances of winning a medal are roughly 50% whereas Rupp’s chances are probably slightly lower. This suggests that the US are likely to win a single medal in these events and not two. Of course if the US had many outside chances for medals it shouldn’t meter. The problem that I do not see many realistic chances for additional medals and some events that the US can go below the prediction.
So here is my predictions for medal chances of the US vs. TFN.

Women (11 vs. 12 TFN)
100m Carmelita Jeter - 1 (Felix dark horse but not worth 0.5)
200m Allyson Felix, Carmelita Jeter - 1.5 (Jeter can lose the medal to SAFP)
400m Sanya Richards-Ross 1 (though another SRR meltdown is not impossible)
100m h Dawn Harper, Kellie Wells 1.5 (four athletes with qualifying times of 12.47-12.56)
400m h Lashinda Demus 1 (almost lock)
4x100m 0.5 (on a good day :-))
4x400m 1
HJ Chaunté Lowe 1 (can Barrett show that she is not a onetime wonder?)
PV Jenn Suhr 0.5 (plenty of talents in the field with no backup for the US)
LJ Brittney Reese 1 (Deloach almost worth 0.5)
SP - 0.5 (Gong vs. CAMARENA-WILLIAMS)
Other events - 0.5 (800, 1500, additional LJ & HJ)

men (15 vs. 17 TFN)
100m Tyson Gay 1 (almost 0.5 as Jamaican sweep is not impossible)
200m Wallace Spearmon 0.5 (close between Lemaitre and Spearmon for Bronze)
400m LaShawn Merritt 1 (would go to 1.5 without Merritt’s injury)
5k Bernard Lagat 0.5
10k Galen Rupp 0.5
110m h Aries Merritt, Jason Richardson 2 (reasonable)
400m h Angelo Taylor 1 (any number between 0-2 so 1 sound reasonable)
4x100m 0.5 (need I say more)
4x400m 1
HJ Jesse Williams 1
PV Brad Walker 0.5 (five athletes with 5.9x SB)
TJ Christian Taylor, Will Claye 2
SP Reese Hoffa 1.5 (Hoffa consistent so likely to medal, Cantwell & Whiting additional 50%)
Dec Ashton Eaton, Trey Hardee 2
Rest of the events 0.5 (long shot in the 800,1,500, 3000sc, LJ)
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:29 pm

medalists:
100m Carmelita Jeter silver
400m Sanya Richards-Ross gold
400m Deedee Trotter bronze*
PV Jenn Suhr gold

100m Justin Gatlin bronze*
10k Galen Rupp silver
400m h Michael Tinsley silver*
LJ Will Claye silver*
SP Reese Hoffa bronze
*not on T&F News' prediction list

Track & Field News' still predicts 29 medals:
12 women’s medals...
100m Carmelita Jeter silver
200m Allyson Felix, Carmelita Jeter
100m h Dawn Harper, Kellie Wells
400m Sanya Richards-Ross gold
400m h Lashinda Demus
4x100m
4x400m
HJ Chaunté Lowe
PV Jenn Suhr gold
LJ Brittney Reese
17 men’s medals...
100m Tyson Gay 4th
200m Wallace Spearmon
400m LaShawn Merritt inj
5k Bernard Lagat
10k Galen Rupp silver
110m h Aries Merritt, Jason Richardson
400m h Angelo Taylor 5th
4x100m
4x400m
HJ Jesse Williams through to the final
PV Brad Walker
TJ Christian Taylor, Will Claye
SP Reese Hoffa bronze
Dec Ashton Eaton, Trey Hardee
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby MightyBurner » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:01 pm

Actually, as of right now, it's looking like they may exceed that projection.
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby MissThickBooty » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:38 pm

WOW what a meet the USA is having but we need to start winning GOLDS!!! Only 2 golds? Our overall medal count is going to to depend on our performance in Track. Damn why are there so many medals in Weightlight, Diving, Badminton?
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Re: USA's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby aaronk » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:36 pm

After Manzano's Silver in the 1500, the USA has 13 medals so far.
(Hoffa, Claye, Rupp, Jeter, SRR, Trotter, Gatlin, Suhr, Tinsley, Kynard, Harper, Wells, and Manzano.)
There are 23 finals to go.
Not all of them have had their heats and semis or Q's yet, so the total number of USA athletes who have a CHANCE to medal is not known.
But let me venture a guess.

"Sure" to medal:

Lowe and Barrett in HJ.
Lagat in 5K
Claye and Taylor in TJ.
Eaton and Hardee in Dec.
Reese and DeLoach in the LJ.
Demus in the 400H.
Felix in the 200.
Richardson and Merritt in the 110H.
Uceny in the 1500.
Solomon in the 800.
M 4X100R.
W 4X100 and 4X400R.

That's 18 "sures"!!

In the "Possibles" are:

Acuff in the HJ.
Rupp in the 5K.
Montano in the 800.
Moline and Brown in the 400H.
SRR and Jeter in the 200.
Porter in the 110H.
Simpson and Rowbury in the 1500.
Symmonds in the 800.
Spearmon in the 200.
Huddle in the 5K.
M 4X400R.

That's 14 "possibles".

18 "sures" and 14 "possibles" add to 32.
Add 32 to the 13 already won, and the USA can POSSIBLY win 45 medals!!!

I know.

FAT CHANCE!!!!!
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