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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:37 pm

Christine Ohuruogu wins a silver.
Four down.
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:38 pm

Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job?

medlaists ::
01.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
02.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
03.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
04.) Christine Ohuruogu (400m) silver

Track & Field News' picks ::
01.) Mo Farah (5k)
02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles)
04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump)
06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold

mump boy's additions:
01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault)
02.) Lawrence Okoye (discus)
03.) Tiffany Ofili (if fit) sprint hurdles
04.) Shara Proctor (long jump)
05.) Goldie Sayers (javelin)
06.) womens 4x400m
07.) mens 4x400m
08.) Perri Shakes Drayton
09.) a middle distance girl
10.) Robbie Grabaz (high jump) through to the final
11.) Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) through to the final

out ::
Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th
Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Athleticsimaging » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:12 am

bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job?


mump boy's additions:
........
02.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) [through to final with 65.28m Q, 4th qualifier]
03.) Tiffany Ofili (if fit) sprint hurdles [through to semi-final with 12.79 Q, 8th qualifier]
.......
10.) a middle distance girl [Hannah England through to semi-=final with 4:05.73 Q, 5th qualifier
Lisa Dobriskey through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q, 19th qualifier
Laura Weightman through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q, =15th qualifier]
........
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:25 am

Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?

medalists ::
01.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
02.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
03.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
04.) Christine Ohuruogu (400m) silver

Track & Field News' picks ::
01.) Mo Farah (5k)
02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th
06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold

mump boy's additions:
01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault)
02.) Shara Proctor (long jump)
03.) womens 4x400m
04.) mens 4x400m
05.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) through to the final
06.) Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) through to semi-final
07.) a middle distance girl
Hannah England (1500) through to semi-final with 4:05.73 Q 5th qualifier
Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q 19th qualifier
Laura Weightman (1500) through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q =15th qualifier
08.) Robbie Grabaz (high jump) through to the final

out ::
Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th
Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out
Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th
Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé)
Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte)

*thanks Athleticsimaging
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Athleticsimaging » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:45 am

[quote="bushop"]Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?{/quote]

After morning session 07 August:

Track & Field News' picks ::

05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé)

mump boy's additions:
.....
03.) Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte)

Edit: Lot's of potential good news from the evening session.
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:08 am

Athleticsimaging wrote:
bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?{/quote]
Edit: Lot's of potential good news from the evening session.

van Commenee hopes so.
Who, if anyone, fills the same postion for the US team?
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:17 pm

Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?

medalists ::
01.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
02.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
03.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
04.) Christine Ohuruogu (400m) silver*
05.) Robert Grabarz (high jump) bronze*

Track & Field News' picks ::
01.) Mo Farah (5k)
02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th
06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold

mump boy's additions:
01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault)
02.) Shara Proctor (long jump) 1 jump through to the final
03.) womens 4x400m
04.) mens 4x400m
07.) a middle distance girl
-- Hannah England (1500) through to semi-final with 4:05.73 Q 5th qualifier
-- Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q 19th qualifier
-- Laura Weightman (1500) through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q =15th qualifier

out ::
Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th
Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out
Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th
Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé)
Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte)
Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th
Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final

*thanks Athleticsimaging
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Athleticsimaging » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:17 am

bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?


mump boy's additions:
01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5.50q through to final, =9th

07.) a middle distance girl
Non-A, inexperienced, sole selection Lynsey Sharp 2:01.41Q through to semis, 9th place

out ::
Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte) Edit, also apparently injured, like Idowu, so not an embarrasing performance. Did everybody else know this?
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:15 am

Athleticsimaging wrote:out ::
Goldie Sayers (javelin)Edit, also apparently injured, like Idowu, so not an embarrasing performance. Did everybody else know this?

There was an article about it last week.
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:16 am

Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?

medalists ::
01.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
02.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
03.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
04.) Christine Ohuruogu (400m) silver*
05.) Robert Grabarz (high jump) bronze*

Track & Field News' picks ::
01.) Mo Farah (5k)
02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th
06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold

mump boy's additions:
01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5.50q through to final, =9th
02.) womens 4x400m
03.) mens 4x400m
06.) a middle distance girl
-- Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to the final
-- Laura Weightman (1500) through to the final
-- Lynsey Sharp (800m) 2:01.41Q through to semis, 9th place

out ::
Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th
Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out
Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th
Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé)
Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte)
Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th
Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final
Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th
Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final

*thanks Athleticsimaging
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby mump boy » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:23 am

I'm convinced Shara will medal
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby bushop » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:22 pm

Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?
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Re: UK's London Olympic medals • 5

Postby bushop » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:34 pm

Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?
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Re: UK's London Olympic medals • 5

Postby bushop » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:21 pm

Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?

van Commenee's on the soup line.

medalists ::
01.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
02.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
03.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
04.) Christine Ohuruogu (400m) silver*
05.) Robert Grabarz (high jump) bronze*

Track & Field News' picks ::
01.) Mo Farah (5k)
02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th
06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold

mump boy's addition:
01.) womens 4x400m through to the final

out ::
Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
mens 4x400m 4th
Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th
Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5th
Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th
Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th
Lisa Dobriskey (1500) 10th
Laura Weightman (1500) 11th
Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th
Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th place (Place de la Blessé)
Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out
Goldie Sayers (javelin) NM =last (Place de la Honte)
Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final
Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final
Lynsey Sharp (800m) did not go through to final

*thanks Athleticsimaging and mump boy
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal contenders

Postby Athleticsimaging » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:16 am

John G wrote:Can't understand people writing off the 4x400.

Have you looked at the current world rankings Athleticsimaging? The aggregate times of our 4 best is 3:00.34. The aggregate time for Bahamas is 3:00.83.

Allowing for rolling starts on 3 legs (worth approx 0.7 secs) we should be able to put out a team running low 2:58s NOW. Give them 6 more weeks to peak and add in Green and or Greene, then add the crowd factor and we should realistically hope to run in the 3:57s. It'll be close of course with Bahamas but we are, viewed objectively, joint second favourites.

You think Cuba will challenge that? Their national record is 2:59.13.


I think most people underestimated Bahamas but I'll give you Cuba and their DNF. Green(e)s? HA! :P
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Re: UK's London Olympic medals • 6

Postby bushop » Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:48 am

van Commenee's on the soup line.

medalists ::
01.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
02.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
03.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
04.) Christine Ohuruogu (400m) silver*
05.) Robert Grabarz (high jump) bronze*
06.) Mo Farah (5k) gold

Track & Field News' picks ::
01.) Mo Farah (5k) gold
02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold
05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th
06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold

out ::
Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th
mens 4x400m 4th
Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th
Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5th
Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th
Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th
Lisa Dobriskey (1500) 10th
Laura Weightman (1500) 11th
Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th
Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th place (Place de la Blessé)
Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out
Goldie Sayers (javelin) NM =last (Place de la Honte)
Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final
Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final
Lynsey Sharp (800m) did not go through to final
womens 4x400m 5th
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal count • 6

Postby bushop » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:08 pm

Maybe the UK can get two medals from marathoners Miguel Ángel Almachi and Lee Merrien.
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal count • 6

Postby Tuariki » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:47 pm

Assuming no medals for GB and Germany in the marathon I think most people including most Germans would prefer GB's:
4 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze
to Germany's
1 Gold, 4 silver, 3 bronze

My British cousins did pretty well. But like every other country, Bahama's excepted perhaps, they didn't perform as well as they publicly stated they had hoped they would.
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal count • 6

Postby bushop » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:54 pm

Tuariki wrote:Assuming no medals for GB and Germany in the marathon I think most people including most Germans would prefer GB's:
4 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze
to Germany's
1 Gold, 4 silver, 3 bronze
My British cousins did pretty well. But like every other country, Bahama's excepted perhaps, they didn't perform as well as they publicly stated they had hoped they would.

Okay... but do you retain van Commenee?
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Re: UK's London Olympic medals • 6

Postby bushop » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:11 pm

2012:
Olympic medalists:
01.) Jessica Ennis (hept) gold
02.) Christine Ohuruogu (400m) silver
03.) Mo Farah (10k) gold
04.) Mo Farah (5k) gold
05.) Greg Rutherford (LJ) gold
06.) Robert Grabarz (HJ) bronze

Olympic top-12:
01.) Dai Greene (400m h) 4th
02.) mens 4x400m 4th
03.) Yamilé Aldama (TJ) 5th
04.) Steve Lewis (PV) 5th
05.) Chris Tomlinson (LJ) 6th
06.) Holly Bleasdale (PV) 6th
07.) Shara Proctor (LJ) 9th
08.) Lisa Dobriskey (1500) 10th
09.) Laura Weightman (1500) 11th
10.) Lawrence Okoye (DT) 12th
11.) womens 4x400m 5th

T&F News Olympic medal picks:
01.) Mo Farah (5k)
02.) Mo Farah (10k)
03.) Dai Greene (400m h)
04.) Greg Rutherford (LJ)
05.) Phillips Idowu (TJ)
06.) Jessica Ennis (hept)

2011:
World Championship medalists:
01.) Jessica Ennis (hept)
02.) Hannah England (1500m)
03.) Mo Farah (5k)
04.) Mo Farah (10k)
05.) Dai Greene (400m h)
06.) Phillips Idowu (TJ)
07.) Andy Turner (110m h)

World Championship top-12:
01.) Jenny Meadows (800m)
02.) Tiffany Porter (100m hurdles)
03.) Perri Shakes-Drayton (400 metres hurdles)
04.) Goldie Sayers (javelin)
05.) women's 4x400m relay
06.) Chris Tomlinson (long jump)
07.) Brett Morse (discus)
08.) men's 4x100m relay
09.) men's 4x400m relay

T&F News World Championship top-10 picks not finishing in top-12:
01.) Lisa Dobriskey (1500m)
02.) Holly Bleasedale (PV)
03.) Shara Proctor (LJ)
04.) women's 4x100m
05.) Nathan Woodward (400m h)
06.) Greg Rutherford (LJ)

*lists need some checking when I'm more awake
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal count • 6

Postby Tuariki » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:52 am

bushop wrote:
Tuariki wrote:Assuming no medals for GB and Germany in the marathon I think most people including most Germans would prefer GB's:
4 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze
to Germany's
1 Gold, 4 silver, 3 bronze
My British cousins did pretty well. But like every other country, Bahama's excepted perhaps, they didn't perform as well as they publicly stated they had hoped they would.

Okay... but do you retain van Commenee?


Well at least he gets his athletes entered into their events unlike NZ?
I would never have hired a Dutchman to run British athletics in the first place.
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal count • 6

Postby bushop » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:06 pm

UK Athletics urges Charles van Commenee not to quit
12 August 2012
"The head coach acknowledged that he has had his critics... and cracked a joke when asked if any athletes had put in telephone calls asking for him to stay. "Er, no. That should tell you something,"...
"I am partially frustrated and I am partially embarrassed – especially when it comes to the relays ... and I've coached world and Olympic champions, but I've never had that emotion I had in that Golden Hour on that Super Saturday before, ever."
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby MDelano » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:37 pm

Placings table (from 1st to 8th position) taken from IAAF website for London looks like this:
4 1 1 3 3 2 2 3
Placings table Beijing was:
1 2 1 4 2 3 2 3

Two more medals but only one more top-8 position (19 vs. 18) which is a better indicator of the breadth of progress. I had expected more just from having home advantage and the hiring of top foreign coaches like Pfaff alone.
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Re: UK's London Olympic medal count • 6

Postby shivfan » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:52 am

bushop wrote:UK Athletics urges Charles van Commenee not to quit
12 August 2012
"The head coach acknowledged that he has had his critics... and cracked a joke when asked if any athletes had put in telephone calls asking for him to stay. "Er, no. That should tell you something,"...
"I am partially frustrated and I am partially embarrassed – especially when it comes to the relays ... and I've coached world and Olympic champions, but I've never had that emotion I had in that Golden Hour on that Super Saturday before, ever."

Maybe CVC should keep his mouth shut more often, and stop reeling off these stupid comments....

He's gone on record as saying he will quit if the UK don't get eight medals. But they got six...is that a failure? Would four silvers and four bronzes be better than a haul of six which includes four golds? If he'd any sense, his target would've been golds, instead of quantifying medals in one lump.

I thought it was a stupid statement then, and I think it's even stupider now that I can look back on it with hindsight. But CVC seems to have a penchant for saying idiotic things. Maybe it might be better for UK Athletics if he does stick to his stupid prediction....
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby Speedster » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:23 am

I like that CVC came out and said what he wanted and put his name to it. Accountability for performance has been one of his core values as head coach and it would have been inappropriate had he not demanded the same from his own performance.

Denise Lewis thinks he'll go given the need for the post to commit to a 2017 five year plan when London host the Worlds. With this in mind I think he will go.

Michael Johnson commented on the BBC coverage that the culture change bought in by CVC was the most noticeable advance he'd made in his time as head coach and I think retaining that is what matters most.
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby bushop » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:08 am

London 2012 Olympics: Why van Commenee must stay
August 12, 2012
"If he now resigns – as he always threatened to do if the GB team “failed” hit the eight medals target - it would be a travesty. Not to mention a major error for the sport as it heads towards Glasgow 2014, Rio 2016 and London 2017."
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby Tuariki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:17 pm

bushop wrote:London 2012 Olympics: Why van Commenee must stay
August 12, 2012
"If he now resigns – as he always threatened to do if the GB team “failed” hit the eight medals target - it would be a travesty. Not to mention a major error for the sport as it heads towards Glasgow 2014, Rio 2016 and London 2017."

For Glasgow 2014 who does van Commenee represent given that there is no Great Britain team. England, Wales,Scotland and Northern Ireland all compete as individual countries?
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby bushop » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:09 pm

Tuariki wrote:For Glasgow 2014 who does van Commenee represent given that there is no Great Britain team. England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland all compete as individual countries?

Commonwealth Games 2010: Charles van Commenee backs Phillips Idowu
23 Sep 2010
With England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland competing separately in Delhi rather than in a Great Britain team, van Commenee has no formal role in India.
But although he has faith in the people in charge of the various teams, he admitted he would not 'turn his back' on any athletes who sought his help."

UK Athletics head coach urges top athletes to compete at Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games
14 February 2012
[van Commenee] told The Herald Newspaper in Scotland.
"The Commonwealth Games is a serious event. I think it's in everybody's diary for 2014."
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby bman » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:17 pm

It will be interesting to see if big names compete this time around given the more traditional end of july time table.
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby Tuariki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:19 pm

bman wrote:It will be interesting to see if big names compete this time around given the more traditional end of july time table.

They will if they consider it doesn't hurt their chances at making dollars on the professional circuit. Winning a Commonwealth Games gold does nothing for your market value.
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby rsb2 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:44 pm

It would be nice to see the Commonwealth Games return to their former status, and I think it can happen with some co-operative scheduling. After all, the Commonwealth plays to almost 2 billion people, in 55 countries, and when the big guns show up, it's a hell of a track meet, much stronger than the Europeans in most events on the track.
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Re: UK's London Olympics medal contenders [?]

Postby jackbean » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:35 pm

mump boy wrote:
PCSExponent wrote:It's a pet peeve of mine when the relay medals are put on the same pedestal as individual medals, and when stated are goals are to get X medals. A relay medal isn't - and will never be - equal to an ind. medal. Surely it is worth somewhere between 1/3 (1 entrance per nation vs. 3 athletes per nation) and 200/7,000,000,000 (rough estimate of number of nations vs. world population) of an individual medal ??? Get along with the plan and state your bloody goals as number of individual medals. On topic, the UK would do extremely well to walk away with 5 individual medal.
ETA - or is it GBR? Another pet-peeve of mine :twisted:


So should team medals in cycling not count, maybe the 8 in rowing is only worth 12.5% or individual rowers. Maybe no team sports should be played at all :?


Of for goodness sake, way to miss the point completely. We're talking about athletics here, in these posts, on the athletics forum. No one's saying get rid of hockey or water polo. :roll:
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby mump boy » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:36 am

Tuariki wrote:
bman wrote:It will be interesting to see if big names compete this time around given the more traditional end of july time table.

They will if they consider it doesn't hurt their chances at making dollars on the professional circuit. Winning a Commonwealth Games gold does nothing for your market value.


It certainly does in UK meets

Louise Hazel won the CWG Hep in Delhi and saw her profile rise massively, to the point that she is one of the most recognisable members of our team with TV appearances, photos shoots and the face of Panosonic Olympic tv campaign.

Of course it helps that she's gorgeous with a great personality and competes in the same event as Jess but without that won there would be nothing to promote her with, CWG made her career.

http://www.youtube.com/user/panasonic20 ... sults_main
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Re: UK's London Olympics medal contenders [?]

Postby mump boy » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:38 am

jackbean wrote:
mump boy wrote:
PCSExponent wrote:It's a pet peeve of mine when the relay medals are put on the same pedestal as individual medals, and when stated are goals are to get X medals. A relay medal isn't - and will never be - equal to an ind. medal. Surely it is worth somewhere between 1/3 (1 entrance per nation vs. 3 athletes per nation) and 200/7,000,000,000 (rough estimate of number of nations vs. world population) of an individual medal ??? Get along with the plan and state your bloody goals as number of individual medals. On topic, the UK would do extremely well to walk away with 5 individual medal.
ETA - or is it GBR? Another pet-peeve of mine


So should team medals in cycling not count, maybe the 8 in rowing is only worth 12.5% or individual rowers. Maybe no team sports should be played at all


Of for goodness sake, way to miss the point completely. We're talking about athletics here, in these posts, on the athletics forum. No one's saying get rid of hockey or water polo. :roll:


So team medals count in every other sport just not track ??

Explain to me the difference between the 4x4 and the team pursuit ? and why one should be celebrated and the other denigrated :?
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby bushop » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:25 pm

Charles van Commenee leaves British athletics in rude health after golden London Olympics for Team GB
10 Sep 2012
"Having pledged to quit if he failed to hit his medal target, Van Commenee has remained true to his principles by departing at the end of his contract, though it is understood he was ready to leave anyway because he did not have the appetite for another five years in charge."
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee is Done

Postby gh » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:55 pm

"his" medal target? Let's see, Farah works in the U.S. with Salazar, Rutherford is talking about following Pfaff back across the Atlantic. Exactly what does VC get credit for? (not to pick on the guy, but the concept of "national coach" seems to me to be totally ludicrous in the professional era)
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee is Done

Postby Daisy » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:18 pm

gh wrote:the concept of "national coach" seems to me to be totally ludicrous in the professional era)

Someone has to bring them down to size.
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee is Done

Postby j-a-m » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:52 am

gh wrote:"his" medal target? Let's see, Farah works in the U.S. with Salazar, Rutherford is talking about following Pfaff back across the Atlantic. Exactly what does VC get credit for?

For not interfering with Salazar and Pfaff?
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee's future

Postby mal » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:12 am

bushop wrote:Charles van Commenee leaves British athletics in rude health after golden London Olympics for Team GB
10 Sep 2012
"Having pledged to quit if he failed to hit his medal target, Van Commenee has remained true to his principles by departing at the end of his contract, though it is understood he was ready to leave anyway because he did not have the appetite for another five years in charge."


I understand how he feels. I did 26 months in my position in the UK and didn't extend cos I had no appetite for another year. :mrgreen:

Its a strange place, even with all those bright people.
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Re: UK's 6 Olympic medals • van Commenee is Done

Postby bushop » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:44 pm

gh wrote:...but the concept of "national coach" seems to me to be totally ludicrous in the professional era)

Selection and funding, and therefor motivation, of the athletes.
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