Flumpy wrote:HA!!! He started a thread here complaining that no Americans were congratulating Perri on her 'fine performance', but as soon as a British person make the same observation we immediately hear from him why it's not so good after all.
What a berk.
Compared to some of the most poisonous racism I've read in years that PSD's performance attracted on the Daily Telegraph's comment sections, I have no problem with anything here.
Jesus, that rag is getting worse. A concerted BNP blogbomb these days.
Track & Field News' predictions: 5 men’s medals... 5k Mo Farah 10k Mo Farah 400m h Dai Greene LJ Greg Rutherford TJ Phillips Idowu 1 women's medal... Hept Jessica Ennis
Tiffany Porter facing fitness race as Team GB's injury list mounts 15 Jul 2012 "With a target of at least eight medals in London, van Commenee will be relieved that other athletes such as 400m hurdler Perri Shakes-Drayton and javelin thrower Goldie Sayers have moved into serious podium contention with breakthrough performances at Crystal Palace, though the possibility that some of Britain’s biggest stars could be carrying injuries will be a major concern."
Looks like another medal contender just surfaced: Steven Lewis won at the Kuso Memorial in Poland with 5.82m. New UK record? Nick Buckfield is the only british 5.80 jumper i can think of.
Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4
There are no UK female middle distance runners within the same country code of an Olympic medal in 2012. I dont see one UK woman in the top 10 of any middle distance race in the Olympic Games this year.
One article recently linked to the front page on TF&N.com said since '68 (I think), home countries have enjoyed an average of a 54% increase in medals.
I look forward to GBR stepping up, with many athletes in all sports/events surpassing expectations.
mump boy wrote::D this will disappoint a few posters on here Medal contenders Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4 a couple of tenuous ones as well Jack Green Andrew Osagie
Runnerz76 wrote:There are no UK female middle distance runners within the same country code of an Olympic medal in 2012. I dont see one UK woman in the top 10 of any middle distance race in the Olympic Games this year.
i don't remember jenny simpson or hannah england being at the top of anyone's prediction list last year
i don't think it's going to take 3.56 to win in London, so anyone who is in the 4.02 range is in with a chance, especially those who have done it before
mump boy wrote::D this will disappoint a few posters on here Medal contenders Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4 a couple of tenuous ones as well Jack Green Andrew Osagie
Is one of those Jessica Ennis?
Yes but how many of Mumps "contenders" will he state would be on his final Medal Prediction list... far from over 20 on the above list, I assume .
I reckon a total of 5/6 individual medals and no relay medals this time.Hope to be a bit undercooked but that the way I see it. Trust none of our Flag Wavers are too upset.
mump boy wrote::D this will disappoint a few posters on here Medal contenders Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4 a couple of tenuous ones as well Jack Green Andrew Osagie
mump boy wrote::D this will disappoint a few posters on here Medal contenders Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4 a couple of tenuous ones as well Jack Green Andrew Osagie
Is one of those Jessica Ennis?
Yes but how many of Mumps "contenders" will he state would be on his final Medal Prediction list... far from over 20 on the above list, I assume .
I reckon a total of 5/6 individual medals and no relay medals this time.Hope to be a bit undercooked but that the way I see it. Trust none of our Flag Wavers are too upset.
I think most events are really difficult to predict this year. For example in the mens 5/10k Mo looks in great form but apart from Eugene he hasn't raced anyone of note, so i have no idea how he will do but with home advantage have to make him prohibitive favourite.
Perri is =2nd in the world has a lot more to give and once again has home advantage but 400h is all over the place this year so she could win she could come 8th !! but once again i am going to stay positive.
Mens LJ is a mess, Mitchel Watt is my pick for gold but after that it's a toss up :-S
off the top of my head, with a bit of luck and wishful thinking
Gold
Mo Dai Jess
Silver
Mo TBO PSD Phillips (depending on injury !)
Bronze
m4x4 Robbie Greg w4x4 (depending on TBO !) Holly
I'm convinced there will be at least one surprise as well i don't mean Shara, Yami etc who are on the edge of medals anyway, i mean someone out of no where !!
My own view is that Britain are likely to win around 10 medals overall, involving three golds, but there is a fair chance of even 12 if Phillips Idowu is fully fit (which I think he is) and sharp and relays don't get into any sort of mess.
PSD, Christine Ohuruogu, Goldie Sayers, Shara Proctor and Yamile Aldama have confirmed themselves as serious medal contenders over the last few weeks, Steve Lewis cleared a UK record of 5.82 yesterday to go fifth in the world in the PV and Chris Tomlinson is showing better form at the right time and Jack Green can turn heads in the 400mh - watch this space!
Hannah England showed well improved as runner-up in a more tactical 1500m in 4:10.43 behind Jemma Simpson in Solihull yesterday (around 2:16 both at 800m) so she is already in around 4:06-4:07 form and making ground fast. Lisa Dobriskey also ran 4:05.27 midweek, on top of recent 4:02.13, so she is not that far off top gear either.
Andy Baddeley is a slight late worry picking up a couple of niggles since overhauling Ross Murray at the UK Champs but hopefully he'll be fully fit by the heats of the 1500m - he's been in the shape of is life this season. Not necessarily a medal hope yet but both he and Murray can surprise quite a few in London.
mump boy wrote::D this will disappoint a few posters on here Medal contenders Mo x2 Dai Greene Greg Rutherford Chris Tomlinson Phillips Idowu Steve Lewis Robbie Grabaz Lawrence Okoye m4x4 TBO a middle distance girl Tiffany Ofili (if fit) PSD Shara Proctor Yami Holly Bleasedale Goldie Sayers w4x4 a couple of tenuous ones as well Jack Green Andrew Osagie
Is one of those Jessica Ennis?
do you think she'll medal ?!!
I don't see her on your list of contenders... do you think she will medal?
norunner wrote:Looks like another medal contender just surfaced: Steven Lewis won at the Kuso Memorial in Poland with 5.82m.
Lewis had a good competition yesterday, but TBH, the clearance at 5.82 was a very lucky one.
It was? I watched it on TVP Sports and i don't really remember, but i thought it was a good clearance. Unfortunately they didn't show the NMH by Lavillenie and Mohr, would have been interesting in regards to London how they failed.
Van Commenee upbeat Athletics chief confident Britain can achieve medals target July 26, 2012 Van Commenee said, "... we have 15 athletes in the medal zone so our success is not dependent on one athlete. We still have a good number of athletes so we have a realistic chance to hit the target."
Who are van Commenee's 15 ?
Track & Field News' picks: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon)
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 02.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) 03.) Tiffany Ofili (if fit) sprint hurdles 04.) Shara Proctor (long jump) 05.) Goldie Sayers (javelin) 06.) womens 4x400m 07.) mens 4x400m 08.) Perri Shakes Drayton 09.) a middle distance girl 10.) Robbie Grabaz (high jump) through to the final 11.) Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) through to the final
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th
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bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job?
mump boy's additions: ........ 02.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) [through to final with 65.28m Q, 4th qualifier] 03.) Tiffany Ofili (if fit) sprint hurdles [through to semi-final with 12.79 Q, 8th qualifier] ....... 10.) a middle distance girl [Hannah England through to semi-=final with 4:05.73 Q, 5th qualifier Lisa Dobriskey through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q, 19th qualifier Laura Weightman through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q, =15th qualifier] ........
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 02.) Shara Proctor (long jump) 03.) womens 4x400m 04.) mens 4x400m 05.) Lawrence Okoye (discus) through to the final 06.) Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) through to semi-final 07.) a middle distance girl • Hannah England (1500) through to semi-final with 4:05.73 Q 5th qualifier • Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q 19th qualifier • Laura Weightman (1500) through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q =15th qualifier 08.) Robbie Grabaz (high jump) through to the final
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte)
*thanks Athleticsimaging
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bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?{/quote] Edit: Lot's of potential good news from the evening session.
van Commenee hopes so. Who, if anyone, fills the same postion for the US team?
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 02.) Shara Proctor (long jump) 1 jump through to the final 03.) womens 4x400m 04.) mens 4x400m 07.) a middle distance girl -- Hannah England (1500) through to semi-final with 4:05.73 Q 5th qualifier -- Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to semi-final with 4:13.32 Q 19th qualifier -- Laura Weightman (1500) through to semi-final with 4:07.79 Q =15th qualifier
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte) • Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th • Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final
bushop wrote:Who are van Commenee's 15 and who will save his job and win the 8 medals?
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5.50q through to final, =9th
07.) a middle distance girl Non-A, inexperienced, sole selection Lynsey Sharp 2:01.41Q through to semis, 9th place
out :: • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte) Edit, also apparently injured, like Idowu, so not an embarrasing performance. Did everybody else know this?
Athleticsimaging wrote:out :: • Goldie Sayers (javelin)Edit, also apparently injured, like Idowu, so not an embarrasing performance. Did everybody else know this?
Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's additions: 01.) Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5.50q through to final, =9th 02.) womens 4x400m 03.) mens 4x400m 06.) a middle distance girl -- Lisa Dobriskey (1500) through to the final -- Laura Weightman (1500) through to the final -- Lynsey Sharp (800m) 2:01.41Q through to semis, 9th place
out :: • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) DNQ 16.53m, 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Goldie Sayers (javelin) DNQ Foul, Foul, Foul, =last (Place de la Honte) • Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th • Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final • Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th • Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final
*thanks Athleticsimaging
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Track & Field News' picks :: 01.) Mo Farah (5k) 02.) Mo Farah (10k) gold 03.) Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th 04.) Greg Rutherford (long jump) gold 05.) Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th 06.) Jessica Ennis (heptathlon) gold
mump boy's addition: 01.) womens 4x400m through to the final
out :: • Dai Greene (400m hurdles) 4th • mens 4x400m 4th • Yamilé Aldama (triple jumper) 5th • Steve Lewis (pole vault) 5th • Chris Tomlinson (long jump) 6th • Holly Bleasdale (pole vault) 6th • Shara Proctor (long jump) 9th • Lisa Dobriskey (1500) 10th • Laura Weightman (1500) 11th • Lawrence Okoye (discus) 12th • Phillips Idowu (triple jump) 14th place (Place de la Blessé) • Perri Shakes-Drayton (400m hurdles) 3rd in semi—out • Goldie Sayers (javelin) NM =last (Place de la Honte) • Tiffany Ofili (sprint hurdles) did not go through to final • Hannah England (1500) did not go through to final • Lynsey Sharp (800m) did not go through to final
*thanks Athleticsimaging and mump boy
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John G wrote:Can't understand people writing off the 4x400.
Have you looked at the current world rankings Athleticsimaging? The aggregate times of our 4 best is 3:00.34. The aggregate time for Bahamas is 3:00.83.
Allowing for rolling starts on 3 legs (worth approx 0.7 secs) we should be able to put out a team running low 2:58s NOW. Give them 6 more weeks to peak and add in Green and or Greene, then add the crowd factor and we should realistically hope to run in the 3:57s. It'll be close of course with Bahamas but we are, viewed objectively, joint second favourites.
You think Cuba will challenge that? Their national record is 2:59.13.
I think most people underestimated Bahamas but I'll give you Cuba and their DNF. Green(e)s? HA!
