Sub 11

[t_monk]

I didn't bring up any of the Bahamians for the mere reason that well... they're getting up there. I know that DFM has stated that she intends to focus on the 200 so I don't see much chances for her to get sub-11 in the 100. As for Chandra Stirrup she is 40 going on 41, as much as I think she definitely can get a 11.1x or 11.0x I just am not seeing sub-11. Now unless Sheniqua Ferguson is going to make a massive leap... I will keep firm on my predictions...

Muna Lee usually comes good in Olympic years and I am banking on that (plus I just like her).

As for Muriel Ahoure... I think she gets it... She is definitely faster in the 60m now than she was last season and if you take into consideration that she has an 11.06 PB already, if she can get in enough races and stays fit she should be able to sneak in a 10.9x or so.

[nianchengyu]

I am wodering Dafne Schippers ,how fast can she run in order to get 11s,

[preston]

2 names I would like to add to this list are Barbara Pierre and possibly English Gardner. Pierre and Gardner both have sub-7.10 and 11.0x PB's (11.14 w2.0 in the case of Pierre). These are prerequisites for sub-11. But are they? Well yes and no. Below I've added the 20m splits from Berlin for the womens 100m. I've underlined the 60m time and also the final time. What the data seems to suggest is that you can't get to sub-11 without being roughly sub-7.10 at 60m. However, I've watched some pretty unlikely candidates breach 11 that defied that notion. Anyone remember D'andre Hill? There was absolutely zero warning that she could run 10.92 (1996). Her PB for 60m was 7.47 and 23.61 for 200m. THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, but she did it. It shows that the same athletes that may not be great indoors to give us a peek into their progress are waiting to bust out on the big track. So though I agree with T-monk's "sure" things it is really hard to pick which women will as we all know. I would add to the "athletes to watch": L. Brookins, G. Asumnu, J. Young, J. Davis and the European pick would be A. Philip. Crazy pick? Brittney Reese.

(one last thing: Sturrup and Ferguson-McKenzie still have the goods to go sub-11. I doubt it will happen but they're within the margin of error at 60m or what they did last year. I would write off the younger Bahamians like Furguson, Smith, etc.)

http://berlin.iaaf.org/mm/Document/Deve ... _14197.pdf
Round Wind RT t20m t40m t60m t80m t100m t20-40 t40-60 t60-80 t80-100 t30m t30-60
Fraser Shelly-Ann
JAM Fi 0,1 0,146 3,03 4,98 6,88 8,77 10,73 1,95 1,90 1,89 1,96 4,02 2,86
JAM SF 1 -0,1 0,156 3,06 5,04 6,94 8,84 10,79 1,98 1,90 1,90 1,95 4,07 2,87
Stewart Kerron
JAM Fi 0,1 0,170 3,11 5,07 6,96 8,82 10,75 1,96 1,89 1,86 1,93 4,11 2,85
JAM SF 1 -0,1 0,155 3,09 5,06 6,94 8,87 10,84 1,97 1,88 1,93 1,97 4,09 2,85
Jeter Carmelita
USA Fi 0,1 0,160 3,13 5,09 7,01 8,91 10,90 1,96 1,92 1,90 1,99 4,13 2,88
USA SF 2 -0,1 0,144 3,12 5,09 7,00 8,89 10,83 1,97 1,91 1,89 1,94 4,12 2,88
Campbell-Brown Veronica
JAM Fi 0,1 0,135 3,12 5,12 7,06 8,97 10,95 2,00 1,94 1,91 1,98 4,14 2,92
JAM SF 2 -0,1 0,148 3,13 5,15 7,10 9,02 11,00 2,02 1,95 1,92 1,98 4,16 2,94
Williams Lauryn
USA Fi 0,1 0,158 3,14 5,13 7,08 9,00 11,01 1,99 1,95 1,92 2,01 4,15 2,93
USA SF 1 -0,1 0,148 3,17 5,16 7,11 9,02 11,01 1,99 1,95 1,91 1,99 4,18 2,93
Ferguson-McKenzie Debbie
BAH Fi 0,1 0,130 3,15 5,16 7,12 9,06 11,05 2,01 1,96 1,94 1,99 4,17 2,95
BAH SF 1 -0,1 0,146 3,15 5,16 7,12 9,04 11,03 2,01 1,96 1,92 1,99 4,17 2,95
Sturrup Chandra
BAH Fi 0,1 0,137 3,11 5,11 7,07 9,02 11,05 2,00 1,96 1,95 2,03 4,13 2,94
BAH SF 2 -0,1 0,127 3,11 5,10 7,08 9,01 11,01 1,99 1,98 1,93 2,00 4,12 2,96
Bailey Aleen
JAM Fi 0,1 0,173 3,24 5,27 7,23 9,18 11,16 2,03 1,96 1,95 1,98 4,27 2,96
JAM SF 2 -0,1 0,199 3,23 5,25 7,22 9,16 11,16 2,02 1,97 1,94 2,00 4,26 2,96
Baptiste Kelly-Ann TRI SF 1 -0,1 0,141 3,13 5,14 7,11 9,04 11,07 2,01 1,97 1,93 2,03 4,15 2,96
Lee Muna USA SF 2 -0,1 0,179 3,21 5,24 7,21 9,16 11,18 2,03 1,97 1,95 2,02 4,24 2,97
Sailer Verena GER SF 1 -0,1 0,149 3,16 5,19 7,19 9,17 11,24 2,03 2,00 1,98 2,07 4,19 3,00
Harrigan Tahesia IVB SF 1 -0,1 0,146 3,14 5,20 7,24 9,25 11,34 2,06 2,04 2,01 2,09 4,19 3,05
Anim Vida GHA SF 2 -0,1 0,125 3,19 5,25 7,30 9,33 11,43 2,06 2,05 2,03 2,10 4,24 3,06
Hackett Semoy TRI SF 2 -0,1 0,131 1,00 5,25 7,30 9,34 11,45 4,25 2,05 2,04 2,11 3,16 4,14
Artymata Eleni CYP SF 2 -0,1 0,164 3,32 5,42 7,45 9,45 11,49 2,10 2,03 2,00 2,04 4,39 3,06
Hutchinson Ayanna TRI SF 1 -0,1 0,169 3,28 5,38 7,44 9,46 11,58 2,10 2,06 2,02 2,12 4,35 3,09

I am wodering Dafne Schippers ,how fast can she run in order to get 11s,

Schippers, believe it or not, is almost there. It all depends on how much faster she can improve her first 60m outdoors (I think her 200m PB gives a great indication of her speed maintenance). I've shown in another thread that many of the sub-11 women have similar 60m PB's as Daphne, however, my guess is that they significantly improved the first 60m in their sub-11 race(s).

[gh]

2 names I would like to add to this list are Barbara Pierre and possibly English Gardner. Pierre and Gardner both have sub-7.10 and 11.0x PB's (11.14 w2.0 in the case of Pierre). ...

Although anything can happen when it comes to 100s on the Eugene track (one of the world leaders in anomalous times), I don't see it remotely like you do.

Gardner is at 7.12, not sub-7.10, and the 7.12 is in Nampa, with altitude of 764m. Her anomalous 11.03 is from Tucson, with an altitude of 747m. The rest of her career top 10 in the 100? Never under 11.10, only twice under 11.25. And the No. 10 time of her career is still only 10.61!
(11.03, 11.17, 11.18, 11.25, 11.30, 11.31, 11.39, 11.39, 11.40, 11.61).

As for Pierre her sub 7.10s are both from ABQ (altitude 1512m), and her 11.0x doesn't exist; it's an 11.14 from the nobody-believes-it site of Clermont. Outside of Clermont she has a pair of 11.18s.

Based on recent results (which is what really counts) both look to be on the right track to big things. But the numbers aren't indicating it. At least not to me.

[t_monk]

I kinda tempered my list for sub-11 because I have to kinda play the numbers game in my head and my list seems extensive as it is... There are definitely more people out there that given absolutely PERFECT conditions in their best or near best form they can run sub-11, but I'm just assuming that won't happen.

The collegiates I find usually have no gas left after the NCAA's, the women at least. As much as I think English Gardner particularly is a talent, I don't think she is quite ready to go sub-11. She was a FR last year I think which just makes her a Sophomore this year.

Pierre on the other hand.... I honestly don't know what to take of her.... This is the first season I am really seeing what she is capable of and as credibly as she did perform this indoor season gh is right where her 60m times are concerned. I don't too ascribed much to times ran at the US trials when they are ran in Eugene or New Mexico.

If I were to add her or Gardner to any list it would be as 'Athletes to Watch' and not too high in my head. I like Brookins' and Young's prospects now they are out of college. McGrone and Duncan in particular are also interesting prospects. If I were added them though I would also throw in Jura Levy and Semoy Hackett.

J. Davis and G. Asumnu... I just am not too convinced about those two but as you said... anything can happen.

Britney Reese reminds me of a Marion Jones (in terms of build and raw talent) so I think she can make it if she focuses... but she won't get it in one season... She has enough problems working on her LJ technique, I would shudder to think what a coach would have to do to fix her sprint technique >_<

Asha Phillips.... too soon if you ask me.

[Pelpa]

I don't foresee this season as a breakout season for many sub-11 gals. 'cept for Blessings there really aren't any others who are on the bubble and will likely transition into the big league...I think.

[ATK]

I don't foresee this season as a breakout season for many sub-11 gals. 'cept for Blessings there really aren't any others who are on the bubble and will likely transition into the big league...I think.

With current the group of women running now, sub 11 is not the big league. Its just sub 11.

[preston]

Great point, ATK, sub-11 really isn't anything anymore; however, it may tell us who may be next to make the jump to the sub-10.90 realm - which still doesn't guarantee a medal. Can London finish be as good as Barcelona '92? Devers, Cuthbert, Privalova, Torrence, Ottey all within a few hundredths.

[ATK]

Muna Lee usually comes good in Olympic years and I am banking on that (plus I just like her).

Unfortunately Muna Lee just recently ran 11.45

[t_monk]

Muna Lee usually comes good in Olympic years and I am banking on that (plus I just like her).

Unfortunately Muna Lee just recently ran 11.45

Yeah.... I saw.... *sighs*

One can hope though....
But she is looking very weak right now....

[Gabriella]

As most know, running sub 7.10 is not an indication an athlete will run sub 11. There are numerous women in the 7.0+ range, some who have run 7.0+s a number of times, that have never run sub 11secs. So we have to take this with a little pinch of salt. Each athlete treats the indoor season differently, some as a break from training, so will peak for indoors champs etc.

Look at the womens lists indoors in 2009. Jeter ran 7.11; LaKaya Brooks ran 7.13, yet outdoors Jeter did 10.64 and Brooks 11.20. Big difference!

If we want to look at an athlete's 60m times and progression, then possibly add Verena Sailer to the "may break 11 secs in 2012" list. She was progressing nicely till 2011;
2007 - 11.31
2008 - 11.28
2009 - 11.18
2010 - 11.10
And then BAM! An injury in 2011 left her with one race and an SB of 11.63. But she has come out in 2012 in PB form, running 7.15. Her previous best was 7.17. If she can run 11.10 (and that 11.06w when she stumbled out of the blocks) then maybe she'll be running a smidge under 11 secs this summer? Her problem, other than injury again, is the German approach of running mainly national level meets against her own country women. She needs more GP races. It's one thing running 11.1 against 11.3 women, but another running 11.1 against 10.8 women.

[t_monk]

As most know, running sub 7.10 is not an indication an athlete will run sub 11. There are numerous women in the 7.0+ range, some who have run 7.0+s a number of times, that have never run sub 11secs. So we have to take this with a little pinch of salt. Each athlete treats the indoor season differently, some as a break from training, so will peak for indoors champs etc.

Look at the womens lists indoors in 2009. Jeter ran 7.11; LaKaya Brooks ran 7.13, yet outdoors Jeter did 10.64 and Brooks 11.20. Big difference!

If we want to look at an athlete's 60m times and progression, then possibly add Verena Sailer to the "may break 11 secs in 2012" list. She was progressing nicely till 2011;
2007 - 11.31
2008 - 11.28
2009 - 11.18
2010 - 11.10
And then BAM! An injury in 2011 left her with one race and an SB of 11.63. But she has come out in 2012 in PB form, running 7.15. Her previous best was 7.17. If she can run 11.10 (and that 11.06w when she stumbled out of the blocks) then maybe she'll be running a smidge under 11 secs this summer? Her problem, other than injury again, is the German approach of running mainly national level meets against her own country women. She needs more GP races. It's one thing running 11.1 against 11.3 women, but another running 11.1 against 10.8 women.

I think the running form of Verena Sailer needs a serious overhaul.

[Gabriella]

Ha ha, yes, she isn't the best stylist. Her stride and legs are ok, infact she's ok up to her elbows..then from there upwards it turns ugly - so much tension it looks like she's going to pop a blood vessel!
She really does fight all the way and would benefit from relaxing. Her stride length was actually very good in 2010 (though again, that awful upper body) and this indoors she has improved her drive phase (but not her first 3 strides..she gets a terrible start). But overall definitely not one to be copied. But if she can do 11.10 from awful form, you do wonder whether a few technical alterations and relaxing could give her another tenth

[26mi235]

I think that Gabriella made a very good case. Besides, she might get a bit of refinement over time; was she getting a bit better over the 2006-2010 timeframe?

[preston]

7.10. The explanation.

I never meant that 7.10 was an indication that someone WOULD run sub-11, I only meant that 7.10 was ABOUT the Maximum time someone would have to be at 60m -WHILE RUNNING 100m. That is why Pierre and Gardner were added; they were the women who could be at 7.10 EN ROUTE to 100m. The Berlin results bear that out somewhat as 7.10 becomes the maximum to 11.00 (VCB, 7.10/11.00; LW, 7.11/11.01; DFM, 7.12/11.02 [Sturrup and Williams are the only women who run sub-7.10 and manage not to run sub-11).

Now, many women won't figure out how to run sub-7.10 until outdoors because their training isn't geared towards achieving that so indoors is only an indication of how well someone runs the 60m INDOORS. But, what Berlin results seem to bear out is that no matter who the athlete is, if they are NOT at 7.10 or better when they reach 60m then they can't run sub-11.

Sailer may be a victim of that Euro/Deutsch coaching that Gabs lauds. She doesn't produce enough power in the latter part of the race due to her "bent forward", toe reaching, style; indicative of the GDR girls of old. Now, one of the reasons, imo, is BECAUSE of those arms but it's not like she's a newcomer, the question has to be asked why that hasn't been addressed. If any European breaks 11 it will be someone currently NOT on the radar or Schippers of NED, should she decide to be a sprinter (I'm very doubtful of the FRA and GBR girls now).

[fasttrack85]

Time to bring this back up...

Last season we had 8 sub-11 females:

10.70 2.0 Carmelita Jeter Eugene, OR (sub-11 8 times)
10.76 1.1 Veronica Campbell-Brown Ostrava (sub-11 7 times)
10.86 2.0 Marshevet Myers Eugene, OR (sub-11 2 times)
10.87 2.0 Kerron Stewart Eugene, OR (sub-11 2 times)
10.90 0.4 Kelly-Ann Baptiste Bruxelles (sub-11 5 times)
10.95 2.0 Shelly-Ann Fraser - Pryce Eugene, OR (sub-11 2 times)
10.96 0.8 Ivet Lalova Sliven (sub-11 1 time)
10.99 1.8 Oludamola Osayomi São Paulo (IDCM) (sub-11 1 time)

I was off base last season with a number of persons not making sub-11 but teetering close (Anderson, Simpson, Russell and Blessings particularly) and others just plain disappointing (Lee and L. Williams).

With this being an Olympic we usually get a spike in the number of athletes running top times. Just a quick prediction of who I think will probably go sub-11 this year:

Sure:
Carmelita Jeter
Veronica Campbell-Brown
Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce
Kerron Stewart
Kelly-Ann Baptist
Marshevet Myers

Likely Candidates:
Sherone Simpson
Ivet Lalova
Alexander Anderson
Blessing Okagarbe
Carrie Russell
Murielle Ahoure
LaVerne Jones-Ferrette

Athletes to watch:
Tianna Madison
Lauryn Williams
Muna Lee
Aleen Bailey
LaShauntea Moore
Shalonda Solomon
Schillonie Calvert
Jeneba Tarmoh
Allyson Felix

Everyone in the 'sure' list will go sub-11. I expect at least 3/4 of the 'most likely' list to deliver and as for the 'Athletes to watch'... I have no idea what they will do...

I would actually upgrade Allyson Felix to likely. Her 7.10 in the 60 meters is very promising and her vertical has increased a couple inches so its clear her explosiveness is at a peak we have never seen it so if she can maintain that as well as her trademark speed endurance then I think we may be looking at sub 10.9 and maybe even a new personal 200 best.

On a side note since this is an olympic year Sherrone might actually be sure. Granted she doesn't get hit by a Minibus in Kingston.

[t_monk]

I would actually upgrade Allyson Felix to likely. Her 7.10 in the 60 meters is very promising and her vertical has increased a couple inches so its clear her explosiveness is at a peak we have never seen it so if she can maintain that as well as her trademark speed endurance then I think we may be looking at sub 10.9 and maybe even a new personal 200 best.

On a side note since this is an olympic year Sherrone might actually be sure. Granted she doesn't get hit by a Minibus in Kingston.

The reason I put Allyson in the 'Likely' list is because I honesty don't think she will be running many if any 100m. Especially with the news that she is planning on running the 400/200 maybe I suspect she will not be focusing too much on the 100. Also in regards to her 60m PB, I don't put too much stock into that because I always thought she had that speed om the 60. The reason we never had it on paper was because she simply never ran the event since 2005. If she had ran it in 2007/8 (I think her best years sprint-wise) she would be able to pull out a 7.10 or faster easily.

I think Sherone will probably go sub-11 before Myers and Baptist probably this year... I just don't want to jinx it >_<

[fasttrack85]

I would actually upgrade Allyson Felix to likely. Her 7.10 in the 60 meters is very promising and her vertical has increased a couple inches so its clear her explosiveness is at a peak we have never seen it so if she can maintain that as well as her trademark speed endurance then I think we may be looking at sub 10.9 and maybe even a new personal 200 best.

On a side note since this is an olympic year Sherrone might actually be sure. Granted she doesn't get hit by a Minibus in Kingston.

The reason I put Allyson in the 'Likely' list is because I honesty don't think she will be running many if any 100m. Especially with the news that she is planning on running the 400/200 maybe I suspect she will not be focusing too much on the 100. Also in regards to her 60m PB, I don't put too much stock into that because I always thought she had that speed om the 60. The reason we never had it on paper was because she simply never ran the event since 2005. If she had ran it in 2007/8 (I think her best years sprint-wise) she would be able to pull out a 7.10 or faster easily.

I think Sherone will probably go sub-11 before Myers and Baptist probably this year... I just don't want to jinx it >_<

I don't think Allyson has clearly stated she is doing the double. What I got from recent articles is she hasn't dismissed the thought completely but she is meandering with it. She may even be trying to throw people off( my conspiracy theory). I already spoke about why running both races in london that is a bad idea in the Allyson double thread. Even if she is doing the double she should still be running 100's for the sake of the 200. She can't keep banking on running VCB down with 400 strength, that will be too much to do after running 400 rounds.

She may have had similar 60 meter speed in 2008. That was only because she was training to make the 100 team for Bejing. 7.10 for Allyson Felix means more than 7.10 with anyone else because Allyson maintains her speed better than anyone in the business. So my predictions are based on her giving 100 priority in her schedules this season and if she does I see her doing 10.88 even as high as 10.85.

[enpsalmx]

Octavious Freeman of UCF is coming..... just needs to get stronger. Would love to see sub-eleven this year but expect a bright future for her.

[t_monk]

I am not doubting Allyson's potential however I do doubt that her management will allow her to run that much 100 to allow her to hit sub-11. She will be running more 400 and 200. The mere fact that they are still mulling over the 400/200 means that her training will be slightly more geared towards just that. I think if she actually commits to having some semblance of a drive phase and runs a couple 100's seriously she will get to sub-11. My take on it though is that she just doesn't have the drive to do just that.

I agree with Freeman being one for the future but I don't see it being the immediate future. We will not see a sub-11 from her until the next season or 2

[26mi235]

Add one more to the list -- SRR's 10.89/2.9 is about 10.94/2.0 and 10.99/1.0, so she has essentially made the grade already.

[t_monk]

Add one more to the list -- SRR's 10.89/2.9 is about 10.94/2.0 and 10.99/1.0, so she has essentially made the grade already.

If we extrapolate and correct for wind for everyone then the sub-11 list would be very much more exorbitant. If your going to correct by wind it's probably best to go with zero wind. I do agree though that if she were to focus on the 100 she could get to sub-11.

[26mi235]

If you go with zero wind you lose a number of sub-11s. I agree with keeping the official list as wind-legal, but having a 10.99/2.0 while excluding a 10.89/2.7 loses part of the reason to having the list, as few would likely take the position that the 10.99 time was better. Thus, like the T&F News lists for sprint/HJ marks, I would add wind-aided marks as an 'addendum'-type of thing. Besides, 10.89/2.7 now certainly indicates that she is probably the most likely addition to the list that people have been putting forward.

[t_monk]

If you go with zero wind you lose a number of sub-11s. I agree with keeping the official list as wind-legal, but having a 10.99/2.0 while excluding a 10.89/2.7 loses part of the reason to having the list, as few would likely take the position that the 10.99 time was better. Thus, like the T&F News lists for sprint/HJ marks, I would add wind-aided marks as an 'addendum'-type of thing. Besides, 10.89/2.7 now certainly indicates that she is probably the most likely addition to the list that people have been putting forward.

Her absence from the 'most likely' list is on the basis that she is a 400m runner who focuses on the 400m. The only season she has ran the 100m with any form of frequency is 2007 when she was ran the 200m at the WC and had a SB of 49.27 in the 400. I am not convinced she will be running the 100 often enough to get to sub-11 in strictly legal conditions.

Also, just a slight correction, the wind was 2.9.

I could add a whole bunch more people by adding a +2.0w to everyone's results #justsaying

[26mi235]

I could add a whole bunch more people by adding a +2.0w to everyone's results #justsaying

But not if you used 10.8x windy; I bet you could add at most a handful that have run 10.8w and that have not run sub-11 wind-legal (and it might be a small handful).

[preston]

SRR's 10.89 is the fastest all-conditions time run before April 1.

From Peter Larsons site
http://www.alltime-athletics.com/w_100no.htm

1 10.54 +3.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1 Seoul 25.09.1988
2 10.60 +3.2 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1h1 Indianapolis 16.07.1988
3 10.68 +2.2 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1rA Stockholm 01.08.2000
4 10.70 +2.6 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1s2 Seoul 25.09.1988
5 10.72 +3.0 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1s1 Eugene 26.06.2009
6 10.74 +2.7 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Eugene 24.06.2011
7 10.75 +4.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1h3 New Orleans 19.06.1998
8 10.76 +3.4 Marshevet Hooker USA 25.09.84 1q1 Eugene 27.06.2008
9 10.77 +2.3 Gail Devers USA 19.11.66 1 San José 28.05.1994
9 10.77 +2.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 Eugene 31.05.1998
9 10.77 +2.3 Ekateríni Thánou GRE 01.02.75 1 Rethimnó 29.05.1999
12 10.78 +3.1 Evelyn Ashford USA 15.04.57 1 Modesto 12.05.1984
12 10.78 +5.0 Gwen Torrence USA 12.06.65 1q3 Indianapolis 16.07.1988
12 10.78 +2.3 Merlene Ottey JAM 10.05.60 1s2 Tokyo 27.08.1991
12 10.78 +3.3 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Eugene 26.06.2009
12 10.78 +3.3 Muna Lee USA 30.10.81 2 Eugene 26.06.2009
17 10.79 +3.3 Marlies Göhr GDR 21.03.58 1 Cottbus 16.07.1980
18 10.80 +2.9 Pam Marshall USA 16.08.60 1 Eugene 20.06.1986
18 10.80 +2.8 Heike Drechsler GER 16.12.64 1 Oslo 05.07.1986
20 10.81 +2.4 Irina Privalova RUS 12.11.68 1 Rieti 06.09.1992
20 10.81 +3.8 Irina Privalova RUS 12.11.68 1 Rieti 05.09.1993
20 10.81 +3.5 Veronica Campbell-Brown JAM 16.05.82 1 Clermont 23.05.2009
23 10.82 +2.2 Silke Möller GER 20.06.64 1s1 Roma 30.08.1987
23 10.82A +2.8 Gwen Torrence USA 12.06.65 1 Sestriere 21.07.1992
23 10.82 +2.2 Gail Devers USA 19.11.66 1 Eugene 17.06.1993
23 10.82 +3.5 Christine Arron FRA 13.09.73 1h1 Castres 26.07.2005
27 10.83 +3.9 Sheila Echols USA 02.10.64 1h2 Indianapolis 16.07.1988
27 10.83 +3.0 Evelyn Ashford USA 15.04.57 2 Seoul 25.09.1988
27 10.83A +5.1 Gwen Torrence USA 12.06.65 1 Sestriere 29.07.1995
27 10.83 +2.7 Marshevet Hooker USA 25.09.84 2 Eugene 24.06.2011
31 10.84 +2.9 Alice Brown USA 20.09.60 2 Eugene 20.06.1986
31 10.84 +2.4 Gwen Torrence USA 12.06.65 2 Rieti 06.09.1992
31 10.84 +2.5 Inger Miller USA 12.06.72 1 Walnut 19.04.1998
31 10.84 +2.9 Ekateríni Thánou GRE 01.02.75 1 Gateshead 15.07.2000
35 10.85 +5.2 Evelyn Ashford USA 15.04.57 1 Norwalk 14.06.1981
35 10.85 +2.4 Evelyn Ashford USA 15.04.57 1 Modesto 14.05.1983
35 10.85 +2.9 Evelyn Ashford USA 15.04.57 3 Eugene 20.06.1986
35 10.85 +4.7 Gail Devers USA 19.11.66 1s1 Indianapolis 09.08.1987
35 10.85 +3.0 Heike Drechsler GER 16.12.64 3 Seoul 25.09.1988
35 10.85 +2.3 Gwen Torrence USA 12.06.65 2s2 Tokyo 27.08.1991
35 10.85 +2.3 Torri Edwards USA 31.01.77 1q3 Eugene 27.06.2008
35 10.85 +2.6 Veronica Campbell-Brown JAM 16.05.82 1r1 Thessaloníki 09.07.2008
35 10.85 +2.8 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1r1 New York City 30.05.2009
35 10.85 +3.2 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Eugene 07.06.2009
45 10.86 +3.0 Gail Devers USA 19.11.66 1 Eugene 04.06.1988
45 10.86 +2.8 Chryste Gaines USA 14.09.70 1 Berlin 10.08.2003
45 10.86 +2.2 Torri Edwards USA 31.01.77 1 Rethimnó 21.07.2006
45 10.86 +3.4 Lauryn Williams USA 11.09.83 2q1 Eugene 27.06.2008
45 10.86 +2.9 Murielle Ahoure CIV 23.08.87 1rA Clermont 04.06.2011
50 10.87 +3.5 Gwen Torrence USA 12.06.65 1 Eugene 02.07.1988
50 10.87 +3.0 Me'Lisa Barber USA 04.10.80 1s1 Carson 25.06.2005
52 10.88 +3.0 Evelyn Ashford USA 15.04.57 1 Walnut 29.04.1984
52 10.88 +3.9 Alice Brown USA 20.09.60 2h2 Indianapolis 16.07.1988
52 10.88 +2.8 Chandra Sturrup BAH 12.09.71 2 Berlin 10.08.2003
52 10.88 +2.8 Muna Lee USA 30.10.81 2r1 New York City 30.05.2009
52 10.88 +3.1 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1h3 Eugene 25.06.2009
57 10.89 +2.2 Merlene Ottey JAM 10.05.60 2s1 Roma 30.08.1987
57 10.89 +3.1 Marlies Göhr GDR 21.03.58 1 Berlin 13.09.1988
57 10.89 +3.1 Kerstin Behrendt GER 02.09.67 2 Berlin 13.09.1988
57 10.89 +2.7 Juliet Cuthbert JAM 09.04.64 1r2 Austin 09.05.1992
57 10.89 +3.4 Christine Arron FRA 13.09.73 1r4 Montauban 15.08.2000
57 10.89 +3.5 Chryste Gaines USA 14.09.70 1 Eugene 22.06.2001
57 10.89 +2.4 Veronica Campbell-Brown JAM 16.05.82 1 Sheffield 21.08.2005
57 10.89 +2.3 Muna Lee USA 30.10.81 2q3 Eugene 27.06.2008
57 10.89 +3.2 Marshevet Hooker USA 25.09.84 1s1 Eugene 28.06.2008
57 10.89 +2.9 Sanya Richards-Ross USA 26.02.85 1r1 Austin 31.03.2012

[ATK]

Octavious Freeman of UCF ran a legal 11.10 +1.2 at Florida relays today.
She is very young, only a freshman, but would it surprise anyone to see her go under?

[t_monk]

Octavious Freeman of UCF ran a legal 11.10 +1.2 at Florida relays today.
She is very young, only a freshman, but would it surprise anyone to see her go under?

Would surprise me... Not denying her talent at all though.

[26mi235]

She needs to get a mere 1% faster? I will not be surprised if she can get that additional meter.

[t_monk]

She needs to get a mere 1% faster? I will not be surprised if she can get that additional meter.

I think she won't do it eventually... Just not this season.... I think she will get there next year or the year after. I just don't think that she will be able to do that with the load she will have in college plus she has been less than lucky where injuries are concerned.

[26mi235]

110.05/1.0 from Duncan has her on the verge of sub-11 (and would be 10.99/2.0

[Speedster]

If LSU allow it, I really think Duncan can make the US 200m team. She also ran a 22.55 in addition to this 100m PB.

[John G]

For the next crop of sub-11s I'd look for women aged 21 or 22 this year who were already running 11.1 or faster last year. At that age, improving by 2/10s in a season is not so unusual.
Carrie Russell and Jura Levy fall into that category.

I saw Asha Philip and and Schippers mentioned earlier. I think Jodie Williams, even at 18 (19 later this year) is a better bet. With her championship pedigree, if she were an American, we'd have much higher expectations of her.

[tandfman]

I think Jodie Williams, even at 18 (19 later this year) is a better bet. With her championship pedigree, if she were an American, we'd have much higher expectations of her.

Higher than we have of others, or higher than the Brits have of her?

[Marlow]

Octavious Freeman of UCF ran a legal 11.10 +1.2 at Florida relays today.
She is very young, only a freshman, but would it surprise anyone to see her go under?

Would surprise me

Really? It's the young'ns that show great promise that have the best shot at significant PR drops; she seems perfectly poised to do that no later than the NCAAs. If not then, she seems the type to continue to progress through the OT. I doubt she'll make the team, but I can certainly see her under 11 this year. Fingers crossed!