2011 Recruiting Thread


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2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby tandfman » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:21 am

I was going to title this thread "2010 Recruiting" but I see that there's already a 2010 recruiting thread and it deals with those who are in the current college freshman class.

This thread deals with athletes who are seniors in high school in the academic year 2009-10 and will enter college in the fall of 2010.

I read recently that North Dakota 800m star Laura Roesler has committed to Oregon.
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Postby 7-sided » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:32 am

I really hope that I am wrong (I mean I really hope that I'm wrong) because her talent is immense, but...I don't think Roesler will be much better than she's been (at the '08 trials). I also think she is in the wrong event. If she grew up in say ... Australia, she would be the 2nd coming of Jana Pittman (or Flintoff-King); a 400m/400h, but instead she will be the 2nd coming of Nicole Teter (injured often), IMO.
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Postby Pego » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:17 am

7-sided wrote:I really hope that I am wrong (I mean I really hope that I'm wrong) because her talent is immense, but...I don't think Roesler will be much better than she's been (at the '08 trials). I also think she is in the wrong event. If she grew up in say ... Australia, she would be the 2nd coming of Jana Pittman (or Flintoff-King); a 400m/400h, but instead she will be the 2nd coming of Nicole Teter (injured often), IMO.


What is your reason to think so? I am not arguing (have no clue myself), just would like to hear your reasoning, why she is a better prospect for 400/400h than 800.
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Postby 7-sided » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:46 am

Pego wrote:
7-sided wrote:I really hope that I am wrong (I mean I really hope that I'm wrong) because her talent is immense, but...I don't think Roesler will be much better than she's been (at the '08 trials). I also think she is in the wrong event. If she grew up in say ... Australia, she would be the 2nd coming of Jana Pittman (or Flintoff-King); a 400m/400h, but instead she will be the 2nd coming of Nicole Teter (injured often), IMO.


What is your reason to think so? I am not arguing (have no clue myself), just would like to hear your reasoning, why she is a better prospect for 400/400h than 800.

Pego, I din't think that you were arguing. But here are the reasons that I think so.

-11.90w, 24.30w (could be hand times) two seasons ago - while training to run the 800m - in North Dakota weather and competition. That is as much speed as any top prep 400m runners. Allowed to develop and we might be talking about sub-11.50/23.50 during her senior year. There are not a lot of places in the world where those times sentence you to a life of mid-distance training. But, if it is more acceptable to be "Mary Decker" ...
-HS coach and parents seem VERY involved (not that it is a bad thing, but there was some "trouble" reported in the training for last year...implied burnout).
-Oregon. The pressure to "run like a stud" may not be the best atmosphere for someone who has been described as "overtrained" during their HS junior season.
-physically, she looks more like a sprinter (see Teter)

I am impressed with her talent, but I see some 'red flags'; I know a few college coaches who also were concerned.
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Postby Pego » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:07 am

Thank you. Her progress is certainly worth watching.
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby 7-sided » Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:32 am

7-sided wrote:
Pego wrote:
7-sided wrote:I really hope that I am wrong (I mean I really hope that I'm wrong) because her talent is immense, but...I don't think Roesler will be much better than she's been (at the '08 trials). I also think she is in the wrong event. If she grew up in say ... Australia, she would be the 2nd coming of Jana Pittman (or Flintoff-King); a 400m/400h, but instead she will be the 2nd coming of Nicole Teter (injured often), IMO.


What is your reason to think so? I am not arguing (have no clue myself), just would like to hear your reasoning, why she is a better prospect for 400/400h than 800.

Pego, I din't think that you were arguing. But here are the reasons that I think so.

-11.90w, 24.30w (could be hand times) two seasons ago - while training to run the 800m - in North Dakota weather and competition. That is as much speed as any top prep 400m runners. Allowed to develop and we might be talking about sub-11.50/23.50 during her senior year. There are not a lot of places in the world where those times sentence you to a life of mid-distance training. But, if it is more acceptable to be "Mary Decker" ...
-HS coach and parents seem VERY involved (not that it is a bad thing, but there was some "trouble" reported in the training for last year...implied burnout).
-Oregon. The pressure to "run like a stud" may not be the best atmosphere for someone who has been described as "overtrained" during their HS junior season.
-physically, she looks more like a sprinter (see Teter)

I am impressed with her talent, but I see some 'red flags'; I know a few college coaches who also were concerned.


From the front page

Laura Roesler didn't like the way her 1,600-meter race went on Friday. She later took out her frustration on the 200.

That frustration helped produce North Dakota's best-ever girls high school time in that event.

The Fargo South sensation covered the distance on the Bismarck Community Bowl track in an astounding 24.01 seconds ... Roesler's previous best of 24.30, set during the 2006 Class A state meet, was the all-time best for North Dakota high school girls going in.

Earlier in the day, Roesler posted a winning time of 5:03.12 in the 1,600. It was a PR for Roesler and the state's best time to date. However, the senior was far from satisfied.

"The race didn't go the way that I had hoped," she said. "It's a good time, but it wasn't what I thought I could do today. I was kind of mad about it. I was still mad when I ran the 200."

Roesler, who competed in just two events Friday, said going for a PR wasn't the first thing on her mind at the start of the 200.

"I just wanted to run a strong race and let out a little frustration," she said. "I felt good the whole way. The wind was at my back the last 100 meters, so I had a feeling it was going to be a good time. When I heard (the time) I was both excited and disappointed. One of my goals this year is breaking 24 seconds, and I was so close...Roesler won the race by 1.07 seconds. Morgan Milbrath of Minot was the second runner to finish.

Roesler, who has won the Class A girls 100, 200, 400 and 800 in each of the previous four seasons ... now owns the state's best times in the 100 (12.07), 200 (24.01), 400 (54.75) and 1,600 (5:03.12) this season. She has yet to run in an 800-meter race in 2010.

"I've never run in that event at state before. I'm thinking I might try it, and it'll depend on how things go the next few weeks," Roesler said. "If I do, I'll probably drop the 100. We'll see."


according to Becca's site athletic.net, her time easily makes her a top-10 sprinter in the US so far
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1. 11 Brushay Taylor 23.00a  CA East Bakersfield
 2. 12 Ashton Purvis 23.67a  CA St Elizabeth
 3. Fr Ruth Reyes 23.74c  VA J. E. B. Stuart
* 4. 9 Patrick Richards 23.84c  AZ Joy Christian
 5. 11 Candace Longino-Thomas 23.87a  OH Gilmour Academy
 6. 11 Octavious Freeman 23.97a  FL Lake Wales
 7. 12 Jenna Puterbaugh 24.06a  CA Santa Fe Christian
 8. 12 Kachay Hullum 24.13a  OH John R Buchtel
 9. 10 Rachel Hlatky 24.22a  OH Magnificat
 10. 11 Monica Williams 24.25a  VA Green Run
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby gh » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:05 am

Methinks Patrick belongs not on that list.
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby gh » Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:33 am

Our HS people aren't carrying that 23.00 mark. (double-zero may be a clue)
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sun May 02, 2010 12:45 pm

Roesler ran 2:05.67 yesterday. first 800 of year I think.
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby polevaultpower » Sun May 02, 2010 4:01 pm

The nationwide HS rankings on athletic.net aren't that good since not every state uses the site heavily. They are extremely accurate for OR and WA, beyond that I can't really say.

It's also not my site, I just work for them doing the college side of things.
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby nbonaddio » Wed May 05, 2010 10:20 am

Wanted to mention a name that has been getting some interest in PA - Brady Gehret, of Altoona. Brady split 46.1 on Altoona's 4x4 at Penn Relays, and is headed to Penn State. Serious talent.
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby gh » Thu May 06, 2010 9:32 am

polevaultpower wrote:The nationwide HS rankings on athletic.net aren't that good since not every state uses the site heavily. They are extremely accurate for OR and WA, beyond that I can't really say.

It's also not my site, I just work for them doing the college side of things.


Is it a site where the general public is allowed to enter things, or is it vetted somehow?
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby DrJay » Thu May 06, 2010 6:09 pm

UNC looks to be trying to recapture some of its Tony Waldrop/Ralph King glory days, with committments from (according to UNC XC Facebook page):

Pat Schellberg, a senior from Morristown, N.J., kicked off 2010 with victories in both the Millrose Games and Penn Relays High School Boys Mile races.

Isaac Presson, a senior from Asheville, N.C., was runner-up to Schellberg in last month’s Penn Relays High School Boys Mile.

Jake Hurysz, a senior from Mebane, N.C., won the 3200m at the Arcadia Invitational in eight minutes, 49.76 seconds, and was the 2009 North Carolina State Cross Country Champion

from http://www.milesplit.us/articles/43477

Also Steve Magnuson 8:58 and John Raneri 9:00, both times from Arcadia.

That would be a SOLID top five.
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Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread

Postby polevaultpower » Thu May 06, 2010 7:45 pm

gh wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:The nationwide HS rankings on athletic.net aren't that good since not every state uses the site heavily. They are extremely accurate for OR and WA, beyond that I can't really say.

It's also not my site, I just work for them doing the college side of things.


Is it a site where the general public is allowed to enter things, or is it vetted somehow?


The general public can only enter marks for their school, unless they are uploading complete results from a meet they hosted. Any mark beyond a certain threshold is reviewed before appearing on the lists. Also, in states like OR and WA where many eyes are watching the lists, it's common for someone to report it if there is a mistake.

Not foolproof, but we have not had a major issue with fraudulent marks.
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