First 4 minute flat mile?


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Re: First 4 minute flat mile?

Postby aaronk » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:08 am

wineturtle wrote:do we give gunder haggs 4:01.4 from 1945 the first sub 4 1600 or does the good dr bannister get it ?


According to a VERY reliable source.....
the first sub-4:00 was in......
a race 1597.34 meters long.

It was deemed "official" by the....

NO BRAIN STATISTICIANS ASSOCIATION of TRANSYLVANIA!!

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Re: First 4 minute flat mile?

Postby 18.99s » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:04 am

gh wrote:We had a 4:00.00 today, but a quick google turned up somebody who had done it earlier (no idea if he was the first).

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/south-afri ... n-magagane


He's just 26, so there's a good chance he'll eventually run sub-4.

But is there anybody who ran a 4:00.00 PR and retired without ever running sub-4?

Or worse, 4:00.01? At least the 4:00.00 guy can genuinely say he ran a 4-minute mile.
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Re: First 4 minute flat mile?

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:42 am

The recorded time in that 4:00.00 was most likely 3:59.99x (90%), so, it is likely that he could say that he ran the mile faster than that (of course, his reaction time was at least 0.2 so his running time for the mile was under four. Of course, we all 'know' this.
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Postby Halfmiler2 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:26 pm

Cottonshirt wrote:It was an evening floodlit meeting at the White City, London, sponsored by the Evening News (a newspaper), a match between Warsaw and London for men and women, with some international standard invites for added interest.

Herb Elliott had recently broken the world mile record and there was a lot of interest in his performance.

...after Marsden led through quarters in 59.6 and 2:00.4, Elliott took the lead at the start of the back straight and though Hewson held him until the bell, reached in 2:59.6, he ran right away when he turned the heat on over the last 300 yards to win by 25 yards in 3:55.4, a White City record.

1. H. Elliott (Australia) 3:55.4
2. B. Hewson (Mitcham AC) 3:58.9 pb
3. Z. Orywal (Warsaw) 3:59.7
4. D. Ibbotson (London) 4:00.0
5. M. Blagrove (London) 4:00.0 pb
6. S. Lewandowski (Warsaw) 4:01.7
7. G. Everett (Shettleston) 4:03.8
8. M. Berisford (Sale Harriers) 4:05.3

Warsaw won the men's match 82 points to 72, but lost the women's match 29 points to 33.

Report from AW 12.37.14


Many thanks,



Martin


So Blagrove did it too - or is that a misprint?
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Re: First 4 minute flat mile?

Postby AS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:11 pm

What about running 4.00.00 or 4.00.0 exactly on debut?

Aussie Miler (@Villanova) Jordan Williamsz ran his first ever mile on weekend, but fell a tiny bit short: 4.00.12i
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Re: Re:

Postby gh » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:45 pm

Halfmiler2 wrote:
Cottonshirt wrote:It was an evening floodlit meeting at the White City, London, sponsored by the Evening News (a newspaper), a match between Warsaw and London for men and women, with some international standard invites for added interest.

Herb Elliott had recently broken the world mile record and there was a lot of interest in his performance.

...after Marsden led through quarters in 59.6 and 2:00.4, Elliott took the lead at the start of the back straight and though Hewson held him until the bell, reached in 2:59.6, he ran right away when he turned the heat on over the last 300 yards to win by 25 yards in 3:55.4, a White City record.

1. H. Elliott (Australia) 3:55.4
2. B. Hewson (Mitcham AC) 3:58.9 pb
3. Z. Orywal (Warsaw) 3:59.7
4. D. Ibbotson (London) 4:00.0
5. M. Blagrove (London) 4:00.0 pb
6. S. Lewandowski (Warsaw) 4:01.7
7. G. Everett (Shettleston) 4:03.8
8. M. Berisford (Sale Harriers) 4:05.3

Warsaw won the men's match 82 points to 72, but lost the women's match 29 points to 33.

Report from AW 12.37.14


Many thanks,



Martin


So Blagrove did it too - or is that a misprint?


Blagrove becomes the answer to a wondrous trivia question, yes.
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Re: First 4 minute flat mile?

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:24 am

The official reading was apparently 3:59.998, which of course goes in the books as a 4:00.00.
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Re: Re:

Postby Halfmiler2 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:51 pm

gh wrote:
Halfmiler2 wrote:
Cottonshirt wrote:It was an evening floodlit meeting at the White City, London, sponsored by the Evening News (a newspaper), a match between Warsaw and London for men and women, with some international standard invites for added interest.

Herb Elliott had recently broken the world mile record and there was a lot of interest in his performance.

...after Marsden led through quarters in 59.6 and 2:00.4, Elliott took the lead at the start of the back straight and though Hewson held him until the bell, reached in 2:59.6, he ran right away when he turned the heat on over the last 300 yards to win by 25 yards in 3:55.4, a White City record.

1. H. Elliott (Australia) 3:55.4
2. B. Hewson (Mitcham AC) 3:58.9 pb
3. Z. Orywal (Warsaw) 3:59.7
4. D. Ibbotson (London) 4:00.0
5. M. Blagrove (London) 4:00.0 pb
6. S. Lewandowski (Warsaw) 4:01.7
7. G. Everett (Shettleston) 4:03.8
8. M. Berisford (Sale Harriers) 4:05.3

Warsaw won the men's match 82 points to 72, but lost the women's match 29 points to 33.

Report from AW 12.37.14


Many thanks,



Martin


So Blagrove did it too - or is that a misprint?


Blagrove becomes the answer to a wondrous trivia question, yes.


Anyone know much else about Blagrove since he is before my time? I knew of Ibbotson.
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