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Postby gh » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:19 am

DexterDanner wrote:Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old. I think he said something about his body getting too old. Had a 9.86 behind Gatlin's 9.85 in 2004 Athens. I wish he would stick around like old man Kim Collins.....



To clarify, Obi has retired from "big-time" competition, but will continue to run at the club level.
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Postby sprintblox » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:23 pm

DexterDanner wrote:Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old.

Just turned 30 a couple months ago.

I think he said something about his body getting too old.

Yes, he said his legs have been really beaten up over the years and don't feel like they have much left in them.

Whatever his legs may or may not have left, maybe it's his mind that just isn't in it any more. He figures he's never going to break the world record, and he's not going to do better than the silver he already got if Bolt or Gay are in the race, so maybe he doesn't see the point of continuing to try at the World/OG level anymore.
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Postby AS » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:47 pm

Add another Olympic medallist (and former TFN #1 ranker?) to the list:

http://www.athletics.com.au/fanzone/380 ... retirement
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Postby gh » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:19 pm

polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.

Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles
Nick Hysong
Tye Harvey - so I hear


Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school

Considering retiring:
Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries
Andreé Pickens
Toby Stevenson - rumored
Tim Mack - rumored



I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.
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Postby polevaultpower » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:15 pm

gh wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.

Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles
Nick Hysong
Tye Harvey - so I hear


Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school

Considering retiring:
Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries
Andreé Pickens
Toby Stevenson - rumored
Tim Mack - rumored



I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.


To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring. Andreé Pickens decided to retire, Tim Mack decided to keep vaulting.
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Postby croflash » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:44 am

AS wrote:Add another Olympic medallist (and former TFN #1 ranker?) to the list:

http://www.athletics.com.au/fanzone/380 ... retirement


Her disqualification in Sydney is a moment I will never forget.
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Postby nevetsllim » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:34 am

Lee Bong Ju retired after last week's Seoul Marathon. I thought he might solider on until the 2011 WCh in Daegu but his form isn't good enough to be competitive.

Takaoka will retire after the Tokyo Marathon (unless he gains qualification for Berlin, which is unlikely) and Tosa and Hiroyama are both retiring from competition too after this marathon.
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Postby Marlow » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:20 pm

polevaultpower wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.
Stacy Dragila - getting married


To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring.


Article on home page says she IS retiring this year - along with Amy Acuff.

Quote from Stacy:
"Hopefully, I'll be able to sit in the stands and enjoy it"


Oh goody, goody - someone to sit with at meets! 8-) :D :wink:
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Postby maggot » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:09 pm

polevaultpower wrote:To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring. Andreé Pickens decided to retire, Tim Mack decided to keep vaulting.

At Arizona State yesterday:

-- Hysong, Nick Unattached NH
4.40 4.55 4.70 4.85 4.95
P P P P XXX
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Postby tandfman » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:46 pm

Marlow wrote:Oh goody, goody - someone to sit with at meets! 8-) :D :wink:

Mr. Waltz may have something to say about that. :P
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Postby Marlow » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:47 pm

tandfman wrote:
Marlow wrote:Oh goody, goody - someone to sit with at meets! 8-) :D :wink:

Mr. Waltz may have something to say about that. :P

He'll be too busy competing to even notice! 8-)
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:40 pm

Torri Edwards?
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Postby TrackDaddy » Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:44 pm

Nevermind.

Torri's HSI bio says she's looking forward to the 2009 season and making the WC team. :D
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Postby nevetsllim » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:24 am

gabyandersen wrote:Vanderlei de Lima


de Lima's actually due to be running at this weekend's Paris Marathon
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Postby tandfman » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:58 am

Marcin Urbas, Poland. Story now on front page (scroll down).
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Postby Brettboy » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:57 am

Ulrike Leyckes nee Urbansky has announced her retirement, due to pregnancy. She missed last season due to an achilles injury but had intended to compete at the worlds, however she is now expecting a child in November.

She made the semifinals of the 2000 and 2004 Olympics over 400mh. She was the 1996 U20 world champ at 400mh & 1999 U23 Euro champ (behind Danvers) She was 6th at the Euros in 98, winning gold in the 4x4 at the World Cup later that year.

PBs: 400mh - 54.57, 400m - 52.35, 800m - 2:02.96

http://www.ulrikeurbansky.de/
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Postby Matt » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:27 am

tandfman wrote:Marcin Urbas, Poland. Story now on front page (scroll down).


Dunno how he managed that 19.98....complete freakoid performance, never came within an asses roar of it again.
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Postby IFK_Vaxjo » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:26 pm

Matt wrote:
tandfman wrote:Marcin Urbas, Poland. Story now on front page (scroll down).


Dunno how he managed that 19.98....complete freakoid performance, never came within an asses roar of it again.


Romour is that they had a crazy tailwind in the curve (+6.0ish) and then only around the allowable on the homestraight...
But you still have to have the shape to turn the legs that fast, impressive in my book!
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Postby eldrick » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:39 pm

problem with that rumour is that obi ran 19.84 in that race & that looks perfectly reasonable for him, especially in light of recent years where plainly inferior guys like 3j & ndure both also going 19.8
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Postby eldrick » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:33 am

from wiki

150 m: 15.16 'NR' -1.9 Wind 29MAY99

that's got to be worth close to 15-flat with no wind & nearer 14.90 with good wind

anyone who can run 15-flat basic for 150 is well capable of <20

in a 200 race, that split is going to be slower, due to pacing oneself for longer distance & 50m more curve to go, but last 100m of a good 200 is at least 9.6/9.7 & you can 1/2 that for "missing" last 50m to add onto your now slower 150m - 4.80 - 4.85s

there used to be a an alltime 150m list floating around the web, but seems to have disappeared - can anyone find it ?
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Postby Powell » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:56 am

eldrick wrote:problem with that rumour is that obi ran 19.84 in that race & that looks perfectly reasonable for him


But he only ran 20.11 in the final, with +1.2 wind. Incidentally, all guys who qualified from that semi slowed down similarly in the final (Obikwelu 0.27, Urbas 0.32, Little 0.27, with FF DNSing).

I'm not sure what the 'perfectly reasonable' opinion is based on, given that Obikwelu's PB before Sevilla was 20.15, his best of the season after the WCh was an altitude-aided 20.06, and, as long and successful as his career was, he never again managed to break 20 seconds.
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Postby eldrick » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:55 am

we have examples of guys not matching their semi times in the final - marsh's 19.73 & 20.01 is the classic example

frankie's 1/4f & semi offers validation for that semi

he ran 20.10 in that semi for 4th, but had won 1/4-f in 20.11 - he presumably ran what he thought was required to get into top-2 in semi & musta been shocked to find the 20.10 which usually shouda sufficed coud only get him 4th !

obi did have a mixed career after '99 - some injuries i believe & rows with nigerian fed, which led him to become portuguese

he also shifted his emphasise more to 100m & running 9.86er in '04 is more than enough proof that he had the talent to back up that 19.84 from earlier
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Postby Triplej » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:43 am

eldrick mentioned the world 150m list, the UK list gives some interesting info...

UK all time list for men
150 METRES
14.97 0.9 Linford Christie ¶ (ENG) 2.04.60 1 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994
14.99 1.7 Ian Mackie (SCO) 27.02.75 1 Cardiff (L) 31 May 1997
15.15 0.9 John Regis (ENG) 13.10.66 2 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994
15.24 0.3 Darren Braithwaite (ENG) 20.01.69 3 London (CP) 11 Aug 1996
15.31 1.7 Doug Turner (WAL) 2.12.66 3 Cardiff (L) 31 May 1997
15.44 0.3 Darren Campbell (ENG) 12.09.73 6 London (CP) 11 Aug 1996
15.50 -1.0 Marcus Adam (ENG) 28.02.68 2 Edinburgh 7 Jul 1989
15.50 1.0 Owusu Dako (ENG) 23.05.73 2 Cardiff (L) 25 May 1996
15.53 -0.5 Lenny Paul (ENG) 25.05.58 1 London (Ha) 14 Jul 1991
15.66 0.9 Terry Williams (ENG) 15.11.68 7 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994

Interesting to note that Christie and Mackie possibly under-acheived at 200m compared to their 150m times while most others had better 200m times compared to their 150m performances.
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Postby AS » Mon May 18, 2009 10:02 pm

Getting back on topic, Aussie hepthalete Kyle Wheeler has retired:

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... -bdwt.html

Won six national titles, 10th in Bejing, #3 Aussie all-time at 6369, two Commonwealth silvers in her main event, plus a gold in 4x4 in 2002 (but only ran the heat)...

Startted out as a 400m hurdler, (went to 1998 WJ in event).
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Postby Speedfirst » Thu May 21, 2009 6:52 am

Matt wrote:Is Ottey likely to throw in the towel after failing to make the Beijing qualifier?


Ottey been retired for years with respect to peforming at a high level, what's the point?
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Postby Matt » Thu May 21, 2009 9:11 am

Wasn't she trying for Beijing?
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Postby Speedfirst » Thu May 21, 2009 10:03 am

Matt wrote:Wasn't she trying for Beijing?


She did, but really it's over for Merlene and has been for awhile.
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Postby 3a » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:13 am

Grace Upshaw has seemingly moved on as of last week.



http://mysocalledfabulouslife.blogspot. ... racie.html

Classy competitor. Kudos to her.

Today Grace left me to head back to the states and begin the next phase of her life, one that does not seem to include jumping in sand anymore.
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Postby jakla » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:25 am

All retiring AFAIK:

    Steffi Nerius
    Franka Dietzsch
    Stacey Dragila
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Postby nevetsllim » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:48 am

Former Commonwealth 400m champion Michael Blackwood retired a few days before the start of the WCh.
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Postby jakla » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:27 am

Kim Collins
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Postby jakla » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:41 am

Marie Collonvillé
Sonja Kesselschläger
Luis Miguel Martin
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Postby nevetsllim » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:08 pm

http://www.european-athletics.org/index ... 2&Itemid=2

Kjersti Platzer has retired. She was actually on the same team as Kristiansen at the 1986 European Championships!
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Postby roixordo » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:10 am

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Postby Gabriella » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:01 am

Claudia Tonn, the German long jumper/heptathlete, has also retired.
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Postby tandfman » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:15 am

Primož Kozmus.
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Postby croflash » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:54 am

tandfman wrote:Primož Kozmus.


Well, according to the article on the front page he is contemplating retirement and it seems like he is leaning towards it, but hasn't made a final decision.

I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.
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Postby nevetsllim » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:31 am

croflash wrote:
tandfman wrote:Primož Kozmus.


Well, according to the article on the front page he is contemplating retirement and it seems like he is leaning towards it, but hasn't made a final decision.

I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.


Someone on another forum (who is Slovenian) said it could have something to do with his quest to get the country to finance top athletes after they retire from sports...
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Postby tandfman » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:04 am

croflash wrote:I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.

I very much doubt that. Very few, if any, of those meets had hammer throws anyway. He did not compete in any meet this year that will be part of the Diamond League next year.

I read another article that said his decision was due to "personal reasons."
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Postby croflash » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:36 am

tandfman wrote:
croflash wrote:I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.

I very much doubt that. Very few, if any, of those meets had hammer throws anyway. He did not compete in any meet this year that will be part of the Diamond League next year.

I read another article that said his decision was due to "personal reasons."


That was last year when a lot of other events got the same treatment. Come 2010 the HT is basically going to be the only event that will be left out, giving less financial incentive. The WAF is also gone which was a possibility to get huge earnings compared to standard meetings Hammer Throwers were invited to.

As I said, I don't know if that was part of the reason why he is contemplating retirement, but I would imagine that financial aspects are also being considered.
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