DexterDanner wrote:Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old. I think he said something about his body getting too old. Had a 9.86 behind Gatlin's 9.85 in 2004 Athens. I wish he would stick around like old man Kim Collins.....
To clarify, Obi has retired from "big-time" competition, but will continue to run at the club level.
DexterDanner wrote:Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old.
Just turned 30 a couple months ago.
I think he said something about his body getting too old.
Yes, he said his legs have been really beaten up over the years and don't feel like they have much left in them.
Whatever his legs may or may not have left, maybe it's his mind that just isn't in it any more. He figures he's never going to break the world record, and he's not going to do better than the silver he already got if Bolt or Gay are in the race, so maybe he doesn't see the point of continuing to try at the World/OG level anymore.
polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.
Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles Nick Hysong Tye Harvey - so I hear
Jillian Schwartz - getting married Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married Tracy O'Hara - already married Stacy Dragila - getting married Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run) Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school
Considering retiring: Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries Andreé Pickens Toby Stevenson - rumored Tim Mack - rumored
I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.
polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.
Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles Nick Hysong Tye Harvey - so I hear
Jillian Schwartz - getting married Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married Tracy O'Hara - already married Stacy Dragila - getting married Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run) Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school
Considering retiring: Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries Andreé Pickens Toby Stevenson - rumored Tim Mack - rumored
I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.
To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring. Andreé Pickens decided to retire, Tim Mack decided to keep vaulting.
Lee Bong Ju retired after last week's Seoul Marathon. I thought he might solider on until the 2011 WCh in Daegu but his form isn't good enough to be competitive.
Takaoka will retire after the Tokyo Marathon (unless he gains qualification for Berlin, which is unlikely) and Tosa and Hiroyama are both retiring from competition too after this marathon.
polevaultpower wrote:To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring. Andreé Pickens decided to retire, Tim Mack decided to keep vaulting.
At Arizona State yesterday:
-- Hysong, Nick Unattached NH
4.40 4.55 4.70 4.85 4.95
P P P P XXX
Ulrike Leyckes nee Urbansky has announced her retirement, due to pregnancy. She missed last season due to an achilles injury but had intended to compete at the worlds, however she is now expecting a child in November.
She made the semifinals of the 2000 and 2004 Olympics over 400mh. She was the 1996 U20 world champ at 400mh & 1999 U23 Euro champ (behind Danvers) She was 6th at the Euros in 98, winning gold in the 4x4 at the World Cup later that year.
tandfman wrote:Marcin Urbas, Poland. Story now on front page (scroll down).
Dunno how he managed that 19.98....complete freakoid performance, never came within an asses roar of it again.
Romour is that they had a crazy tailwind in the curve (+6.0ish) and then only around the allowable on the homestraight...
But you still have to have the shape to turn the legs that fast, impressive in my book!
problem with that rumour is that obi ran 19.84 in that race & that looks perfectly reasonable for him, especially in light of recent years where plainly inferior guys like 3j & ndure both also going 19.8
that's got to be worth close to 15-flat with no wind & nearer 14.90 with good wind
anyone who can run 15-flat basic for 150 is well capable of <20
in a 200 race, that split is going to be slower, due to pacing oneself for longer distance & 50m more curve to go, but last 100m of a good 200 is at least 9.6/9.7 & you can 1/2 that for "missing" last 50m to add onto your now slower 150m - 4.80 - 4.85s
there used to be a an alltime 150m list floating around the web, but seems to have disappeared - can anyone find it ?
eldrick wrote:problem with that rumour is that obi ran 19.84 in that race & that looks perfectly reasonable for him
But he only ran 20.11 in the final, with +1.2 wind. Incidentally, all guys who qualified from that semi slowed down similarly in the final (Obikwelu 0.27, Urbas 0.32, Little 0.27, with FF DNSing).
I'm not sure what the 'perfectly reasonable' opinion is based on, given that Obikwelu's PB before Sevilla was 20.15, his best of the season after the WCh was an altitude-aided 20.06, and, as long and successful as his career was, he never again managed to break 20 seconds.
we have examples of guys not matching their semi times in the final - marsh's 19.73 & 20.01 is the classic example
frankie's 1/4f & semi offers validation for that semi
he ran 20.10 in that semi for 4th, but had won 1/4-f in 20.11 - he presumably ran what he thought was required to get into top-2 in semi & musta been shocked to find the 20.10 which usually shouda sufficed coud only get him 4th !
obi did have a mixed career after '99 - some injuries i believe & rows with nigerian fed, which led him to become portuguese
he also shifted his emphasise more to 100m & running 9.86er in '04 is more than enough proof that he had the talent to back up that 19.84 from earlier
eldrick mentioned the world 150m list, the UK list gives some interesting info...
UK all time list for men
150 METRES
14.97 0.9 Linford Christie ¶ (ENG) 2.04.60 1 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994
14.99 1.7 Ian Mackie (SCO) 27.02.75 1 Cardiff (L) 31 May 1997
15.15 0.9 John Regis (ENG) 13.10.66 2 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994
15.24 0.3 Darren Braithwaite (ENG) 20.01.69 3 London (CP) 11 Aug 1996
15.31 1.7 Doug Turner (WAL) 2.12.66 3 Cardiff (L) 31 May 1997
15.44 0.3 Darren Campbell (ENG) 12.09.73 6 London (CP) 11 Aug 1996
15.50 -1.0 Marcus Adam (ENG) 28.02.68 2 Edinburgh 7 Jul 1989
15.50 1.0 Owusu Dako (ENG) 23.05.73 2 Cardiff (L) 25 May 1996
15.53 -0.5 Lenny Paul (ENG) 25.05.58 1 London (Ha) 14 Jul 1991
15.66 0.9 Terry Williams (ENG) 15.11.68 7 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994
Interesting to note that Christie and Mackie possibly under-acheived at 200m compared to their 150m times while most others had better 200m times compared to their 150m performances.
Won six national titles, 10th in Bejing, #3 Aussie all-time at 6369, two Commonwealth silvers in her main event, plus a gold in 4x4 in 2002 (but only ran the heat)...
Startted out as a 400m hurdler, (went to 1998 WJ in event).