The retirement thread


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Postby nevetsllim » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:59 am

croflash wrote:Shanghai was apparently Olga Komyagina's last race.


NOOOOOO! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

This sucks :cry:
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Postby croflash » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:17 am

Jeff Hartwig had his farewell competition in front of 5.000 spectators in Aachen yesterday.

http://www.leichtathletik.de/index.php? ... wsID=19361 (German)
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Postby doug091463 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:17 am

nevetsllim wrote:
croflash wrote:Shanghai was apparently Olga Komyagina's last race.


NOOOOOO! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

This sucks :cry:


who does defar get to pace her now?
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Postby croflash » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:23 am

Rens Blom ... the injury problems killed his career.
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Postby gh » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:21 am

Rens Blom is now going to pace Defar?! :-)
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Postby Jaack » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:51 am

gh wrote:Rens Blom is now going to pace Defar?! :-)
This is in jest I know, but I have long thought male pacemakers for women should be considered. I mean, why not? Think about the kind of time Defar/Dibaba could run if one of their male counterparts dragged them around with accurate splits!? I don't see why there should be a rule against it, simply based on sex!
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Postby imaginative » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:10 am

Jaack wrote:
gh wrote:Rens Blom is now going to pace Defar?! :-)
This is in jest I know, but I have long thought male pacemakers for women should be considered. I mean, why not? Think about the kind of time Defar/Dibaba could run if one of their male counterparts dragged them around with accurate splits!? I don't see why there should be a rule against it, simply based on sex!


I fear that this could lead to a slippery-slope ending in travesty of
the sport. (Note: ``could'', not ``would''.) In a next step, the claim
is natural that women have an advantage over men. This might then be
compensated for by adding some kind of mechanical pace-maker for men,
which would obviously also be used by women. The pace-maker would have
drafting advantages, and increasingly newer pace-makers with more beneficial
properties escalate into an equivalent of e.g. the bench-press west.

Let us not slip away further than we already have by allowing pace
making in the first place. (That decision could be justified by the
fact that pace making can occur naturally and unintentionally.
Possibly also the problems with proving deliberate cheating, had it
been illegal.)
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Postby tandfman » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:25 am

imaginative wrote:Possibly also the problems with proving deliberate cheating, had it been illegal.)

Had it been illegal? It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.
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Postby imaginative » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:47 am

tandfman wrote:
imaginative wrote:Possibly also the problems with proving deliberate cheating, had it been illegal.)

Had it been illegal? It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.


You see: I am right. Just a too young to remember anything but the
endless rabbited races of the nineties ;-)
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Postby jumpsman » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:34 am

sandra glover comes to mind.
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Postby tandfman » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:08 pm

I think she retired after the 2007 season. She didn't run at all this year.
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Postby imaginative » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:16 am

EPelle wrote:Christian Olsson may be on that list; he has some very serious consideration to give his immediate future.


According to (in Swedish)
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=672&a=833453
Christian Olsson has resumed training. The level is currently not what
is required for a world-class athlete, nor has a decision about future
competitions been made; however, we may have a light at the end of the
tunnel.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby tandfman » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:44 am


Article now on home page says he'll continue running on the GP circuit.
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Postby Pentathlete 2 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:07 pm

Devers???
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Postby Daisy » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:52 pm

imaginative wrote:
tandfman wrote:It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.


You see: I am right. Just a too young to remember anything but the
endless rabbited races of the nineties ;-)


I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?
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Postby Speedster » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:56 am

Daisy wrote:
imaginative wrote:
tandfman wrote:It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.


You see: I am right. Just a too young to remember anything but the
endless rabbited races of the nineties ;-)


I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?


Kind of like the Kieran (spelling?) in cycling?
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Postby tandfman » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:17 am

Daisy wrote:I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?

That was done 35 years ago by the ill-fated International Track Association, the professional tour that existed for a few years in the '70's when open professionalism was not allowed. They called them pacer lights, and they could be used for any race and set for any pace.
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Postby doug091463 » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:10 am

i heard that 2004 olympic marathon champ stefano baldini would retire after the 2008 olympic marathon, but he ran a 10k in scicily, italy yesterday and placed 5th in a race where edwin soi beat sammy wanjiru. so maybe he changed his mind.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:37 am

This is another one like Bungei. Baldini said he was retiring from international competition, but that he would continue running. In both cases, the seem to feel that they have the only medal they need, but there's never too much money, so why not keep competing on the cash circuit?
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Postby gh » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:31 am

tandfman wrote:
Daisy wrote:I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?

That was done 35 years ago by the ill-fated International Track Association, the professional tour that existed for a few years in the '70's when open professionalism was not allowed. They called them pacer lights, and they could be used for any race and set for any pace.


As I recall, the problem w/ the ITA lights (nothing like technology that would be available today, of course), was that they were set at a chosen speed when the gun went off and that was it. Rare is the 800 or mile that's run at a metronomic pace, of course, so the lights were rarely any good.

One of my all-time favorite lines in the magazine was penned by John Gillespie in writing about the Portland ITA meet, I'd guess '75. In that meet, the lights malfunctioned, and were just creeping around the track, with the result that (making up the actual events here) the milers lapped the lights. Gillespie wrote (and I paraphrase), "In the men's mile the contenstants lapped the pacer lights, but the lights could be forgiven, doubling back as they were from a hard 880 just 5 minutes earlier."
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Postby jakla » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:26 am

Christina Scherwin (DEN) 64.83 m javelin, 4th at 2005 WC, has retired after 2 seasons disrupted by injuries.
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Postby nevetsllim » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:02 am

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Postby croflash » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:51 am

Ingo Schultz is also done.
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Postby DexterDanner » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:30 am

Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old. I think he said something about his body getting too old. Had a 9.86 behind Gatlin's 9.85 in 2004 Athens. I wish he would stick around like old man Kim Collins.

Anybody know what Leonard Scott's going to be doing in the upcoming season? He crashed to the ground in the 2008 U.S. indoor champs holding his knee in pain, even though he'd already done surgery on it before. Hope that's not it for him, uh, that woud be a sad way to end your career.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:49 pm

Naoko Takahashi.
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Postby gabyandersen » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:11 pm

Vanderlei de Lima
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Postby Jon » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:27 am

Danila Burkenya and Irina Khabarova
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Postby #6 » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:35 pm

Athanasia Tsoumeleka
after the positive test
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Postby tandfman » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:10 am

Kamiel Maase. Story now on home page here.
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Postby gh » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:19 am

DexterDanner wrote:Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old. I think he said something about his body getting too old. Had a 9.86 behind Gatlin's 9.85 in 2004 Athens. I wish he would stick around like old man Kim Collins.....



To clarify, Obi has retired from "big-time" competition, but will continue to run at the club level.
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Postby sprintblox » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:23 pm

DexterDanner wrote:Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old.

Just turned 30 a couple months ago.

I think he said something about his body getting too old.

Yes, he said his legs have been really beaten up over the years and don't feel like they have much left in them.

Whatever his legs may or may not have left, maybe it's his mind that just isn't in it any more. He figures he's never going to break the world record, and he's not going to do better than the silver he already got if Bolt or Gay are in the race, so maybe he doesn't see the point of continuing to try at the World/OG level anymore.
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Postby AS » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:47 pm

Add another Olympic medallist (and former TFN #1 ranker?) to the list:

http://www.athletics.com.au/fanzone/380 ... retirement
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Postby gh » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:19 pm

polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.

Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles
Nick Hysong
Tye Harvey - so I hear


Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school

Considering retiring:
Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries
Andreé Pickens
Toby Stevenson - rumored
Tim Mack - rumored



I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.
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Postby polevaultpower » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:15 pm

gh wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.

Jeff Hartwig - already moved to St. Charles
Nick Hysong
Tye Harvey - so I hear


Jillian Schwartz - getting married
Mary (Sauer) Vincent - already married
Tracy O'Hara - already married
Stacy Dragila - getting married
Kate (Soma) Conwell (at least retiring from serious training and competition, she'll probably still jump for fun from a shorter run)
Erin Asay - getting married and going to nursing school

Considering retiring:
Russ and Dana Buller - worn down by injuries
Andreé Pickens
Toby Stevenson - rumored
Tim Mack - rumored



I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.


To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring. Andreé Pickens decided to retire, Tim Mack decided to keep vaulting.
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Postby croflash » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:44 am

AS wrote:Add another Olympic medallist (and former TFN #1 ranker?) to the list:

http://www.athletics.com.au/fanzone/380 ... retirement


Her disqualification in Sydney is a moment I will never forget.
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Postby nevetsllim » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:34 am

Lee Bong Ju retired after last week's Seoul Marathon. I thought he might solider on until the 2011 WCh in Daegu but his form isn't good enough to be competitive.

Takaoka will retire after the Tokyo Marathon (unless he gains qualification for Berlin, which is unlikely) and Tosa and Hiroyama are both retiring from competition too after this marathon.
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Postby Marlow » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:20 pm

polevaultpower wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Lots of US pole vaulters retiring.
Stacy Dragila - getting married


To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring.


Article on home page says she IS retiring this year - along with Amy Acuff.

Quote from Stacy:
"Hopefully, I'll be able to sit in the stands and enjoy it"


Oh goody, goody - someone to sit with at meets! 8-) :D :wink:
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Postby maggot » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:09 pm

polevaultpower wrote:To update my list, Stacy Dragila, Erin Asay, and Nick Hysong changed their minds about retiring. Andreé Pickens decided to retire, Tim Mack decided to keep vaulting.

At Arizona State yesterday:

-- Hysong, Nick Unattached NH
4.40 4.55 4.70 4.85 4.95
P P P P XXX
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Postby tandfman » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:46 pm

Marlow wrote:Oh goody, goody - someone to sit with at meets! 8-) :D :wink:

Mr. Waltz may have something to say about that. :P
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