The retirement thread


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Postby eldrick » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:17 am

much as i luv the bungster, i can't see him ever breaking 1'43 again ( unless of course the confidence of winning gold makes him train unbelievably hard next winter )
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Postby eldrick » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:26 am

he hasn't broken 1'43 in 5y

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/biographie ... index.html

( then again borza hadn't done so in 7y until this year, so it coud happen, but unlikely )
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Postby nevetsllim » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:26 am

Apparently Mike East has retired.
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Postby eldrick » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:35 am

laban rotich will be celebrating :D

the mugging east gave him in that indoor race shouda involved the police !
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Postby tandfman » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:04 am

Nobuharu Asahara, the Japanese sprinter, has announced his retirement after this season.
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Postby Jaack » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:12 am

tandfman wrote:Nobuharu Asahara, the Japanese sprinter, has announced his retirement after this season.
With an olympic medal in his pocket. He was a consistent 10.1 guy for pretty much a decade. Nice, long, consistent career :)

I still remember he *Just missed the final of the 100m back in Atlanta.

Asahara was actually a neat long jumper too, world finalist back in 1995 and had a PR from 1993 of 8.13. I think it's a shame he ditched that event from his program so young- (injury).

He's now 36.
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Postby croflash » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:19 am

Kirsten Bolm

She said she doesn't have the motivation anymore after so many injury problems.
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Postby nevetsllim » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:46 am

:( I quite liked Bolm. I guess if she can't get motivated for the world champs next year, she'll never be motivated again for any champs.

Really hope Franka won't be on that list.
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Postby Sinafan » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:40 pm

nevetsllim wrote::( I quite liked Bolm. I guess if she can't get motivated for the world champs next year, she'll never be motivated again for any champs.

After all Bolm wanted to give up before her two golden years in 2005/06 (WC 4th, EC silver) because of her injury problems. She would have needed a surgery again and who knows if she would have been fit enough in Berlin let alone being in top shape?
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Postby sprintblox » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:32 pm

I have to shed a tear of joy for Kim Gevaert. What a beautiful way to polish off such a hardworking career. She couldn't have picked a better time to retire. Her first Olympic medal (in a national record time to boot) and a 1st place in her last race on the circuit. I hope she got a big hero's welcome back in Belgium.
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Postby sprintblox » Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:46 pm

Remember how 15 years ago, if a track athlete was still competing at 30 they'd be a rarity and people would think they're way past their prime and should have quit long ago?

When Quarrie ran the relay for Jamaica at 34 people were saying how he was so oooold and couldn't believe he was still competing. Now athletes in their 30s are routinely making finals and sometimes winning medals, and we're often expecting them to go on for a few more years, and getting disappointed if they retire before 36.
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Postby Per Andersen » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:45 pm

Diego Sahagún wrote:Holm retires :( I think he could have followed 2 more years. Stay Stefan :!:

http://www.thelocal.se/14318/20080914/

2.33 could have been his last jump:

http://www.iaaf.org/waf08/results/event ... _HJ_hash_f

As always he knows what he is doing. This is the first year he mentioned that he felt old. I think early in the year he was considering hanging in for 2009 but during this season there were pain issues. The achilles tendon bothered him pretty much throughout the season.
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Postby 26mi235 » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:34 pm

Will Holm do cameos in the dual meet with Finland?
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Postby tandfman » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:33 am

Jefferson Perez's last race will be tomorrow.

http://www.iaaf.org/WRC08/news/kind=100 ... 47777.html
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Postby croflash » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:55 am

Shanghai was apparently Olga Komyagina's last race.
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Postby nevetsllim » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:59 am

croflash wrote:Shanghai was apparently Olga Komyagina's last race.


NOOOOOO! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

This sucks :cry:
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Postby croflash » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:17 am

Jeff Hartwig had his farewell competition in front of 5.000 spectators in Aachen yesterday.

http://www.leichtathletik.de/index.php? ... wsID=19361 (German)
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Postby doug091463 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:17 am

nevetsllim wrote:
croflash wrote:Shanghai was apparently Olga Komyagina's last race.


NOOOOOO! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

This sucks :cry:


who does defar get to pace her now?
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Postby croflash » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:23 am

Rens Blom ... the injury problems killed his career.
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Postby gh » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:21 am

Rens Blom is now going to pace Defar?! :-)
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Postby Jaack » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:51 am

gh wrote:Rens Blom is now going to pace Defar?! :-)
This is in jest I know, but I have long thought male pacemakers for women should be considered. I mean, why not? Think about the kind of time Defar/Dibaba could run if one of their male counterparts dragged them around with accurate splits!? I don't see why there should be a rule against it, simply based on sex!
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Postby imaginative » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:10 am

Jaack wrote:
gh wrote:Rens Blom is now going to pace Defar?! :-)
This is in jest I know, but I have long thought male pacemakers for women should be considered. I mean, why not? Think about the kind of time Defar/Dibaba could run if one of their male counterparts dragged them around with accurate splits!? I don't see why there should be a rule against it, simply based on sex!


I fear that this could lead to a slippery-slope ending in travesty of
the sport. (Note: ``could'', not ``would''.) In a next step, the claim
is natural that women have an advantage over men. This might then be
compensated for by adding some kind of mechanical pace-maker for men,
which would obviously also be used by women. The pace-maker would have
drafting advantages, and increasingly newer pace-makers with more beneficial
properties escalate into an equivalent of e.g. the bench-press west.

Let us not slip away further than we already have by allowing pace
making in the first place. (That decision could be justified by the
fact that pace making can occur naturally and unintentionally.
Possibly also the problems with proving deliberate cheating, had it
been illegal.)
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Postby tandfman » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:25 am

imaginative wrote:Possibly also the problems with proving deliberate cheating, had it been illegal.)

Had it been illegal? It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.
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Postby imaginative » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:47 am

tandfman wrote:
imaginative wrote:Possibly also the problems with proving deliberate cheating, had it been illegal.)

Had it been illegal? It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.


You see: I am right. Just a too young to remember anything but the
endless rabbited races of the nineties ;-)
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Postby jumpsman » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:34 am

sandra glover comes to mind.
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Postby tandfman » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:08 pm

I think she retired after the 2007 season. She didn't run at all this year.
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Postby imaginative » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:16 am

EPelle wrote:Christian Olsson may be on that list; he has some very serious consideration to give his immediate future.


According to (in Swedish)
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=672&a=833453
Christian Olsson has resumed training. The level is currently not what
is required for a world-class athlete, nor has a decision about future
competitions been made; however, we may have a light at the end of the
tunnel.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby tandfman » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:44 am


Article now on home page says he'll continue running on the GP circuit.
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Postby Pentathlete 2 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:07 pm

Devers???
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Postby Daisy » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:52 pm

imaginative wrote:
tandfman wrote:It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.


You see: I am right. Just a too young to remember anything but the
endless rabbited races of the nineties ;-)


I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?
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Postby Speedster » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:56 am

Daisy wrote:
imaginative wrote:
tandfman wrote:It was illegal, and the difficulty of enforcing the rule was one of the reasons they changed it.


You see: I am right. Just a too young to remember anything but the
endless rabbited races of the nineties ;-)


I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?


Kind of like the Kieran (spelling?) in cycling?
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Postby tandfman » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:17 am

Daisy wrote:I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?

That was done 35 years ago by the ill-fated International Track Association, the professional tour that existed for a few years in the '70's when open professionalism was not allowed. They called them pacer lights, and they could be used for any race and set for any pace.
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Postby doug091463 » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:10 am

i heard that 2004 olympic marathon champ stefano baldini would retire after the 2008 olympic marathon, but he ran a 10k in scicily, italy yesterday and placed 5th in a race where edwin soi beat sammy wanjiru. so maybe he changed his mind.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:37 am

This is another one like Bungei. Baldini said he was retiring from international competition, but that he would continue running. In both cases, the seem to feel that they have the only medal they need, but there's never too much money, so why not keep competing on the cash circuit?
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Postby gh » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:31 am

tandfman wrote:
Daisy wrote:I am actually surprised they have not developed tracks with a rabbit-like device on the inside (possibly lights that light up in series reflecting the desired pace) that could be set to a desired pace. Then there would be no drafting issues, or is drafting the reason they want pace makers, not for the actual pace?

That was done 35 years ago by the ill-fated International Track Association, the professional tour that existed for a few years in the '70's when open professionalism was not allowed. They called them pacer lights, and they could be used for any race and set for any pace.


As I recall, the problem w/ the ITA lights (nothing like technology that would be available today, of course), was that they were set at a chosen speed when the gun went off and that was it. Rare is the 800 or mile that's run at a metronomic pace, of course, so the lights were rarely any good.

One of my all-time favorite lines in the magazine was penned by John Gillespie in writing about the Portland ITA meet, I'd guess '75. In that meet, the lights malfunctioned, and were just creeping around the track, with the result that (making up the actual events here) the milers lapped the lights. Gillespie wrote (and I paraphrase), "In the men's mile the contenstants lapped the pacer lights, but the lights could be forgiven, doubling back as they were from a hard 880 just 5 minutes earlier."
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Postby jakla » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:26 am

Christina Scherwin (DEN) 64.83 m javelin, 4th at 2005 WC, has retired after 2 seasons disrupted by injuries.
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Postby nevetsllim » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:02 am

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Postby croflash » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:51 am

Ingo Schultz is also done.
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Postby DexterDanner » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:30 am

Francis Obikwelu, he's about 31 years old. I think he said something about his body getting too old. Had a 9.86 behind Gatlin's 9.85 in 2004 Athens. I wish he would stick around like old man Kim Collins.

Anybody know what Leonard Scott's going to be doing in the upcoming season? He crashed to the ground in the 2008 U.S. indoor champs holding his knee in pain, even though he'd already done surgery on it before. Hope that's not it for him, uh, that woud be a sad way to end your career.
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