The retirement thread


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Postby Brettboy » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:57 am

Ulrike Leyckes nee Urbansky has announced her retirement, due to pregnancy. She missed last season due to an achilles injury but had intended to compete at the worlds, however she is now expecting a child in November.

She made the semifinals of the 2000 and 2004 Olympics over 400mh. She was the 1996 U20 world champ at 400mh & 1999 U23 Euro champ (behind Danvers) She was 6th at the Euros in 98, winning gold in the 4x4 at the World Cup later that year.

PBs: 400mh - 54.57, 400m - 52.35, 800m - 2:02.96

http://www.ulrikeurbansky.de/
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Postby Matt » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:27 am

tandfman wrote:Marcin Urbas, Poland. Story now on front page (scroll down).


Dunno how he managed that 19.98....complete freakoid performance, never came within an asses roar of it again.
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Postby IFK_Vaxjo » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:26 pm

Matt wrote:
tandfman wrote:Marcin Urbas, Poland. Story now on front page (scroll down).


Dunno how he managed that 19.98....complete freakoid performance, never came within an asses roar of it again.


Romour is that they had a crazy tailwind in the curve (+6.0ish) and then only around the allowable on the homestraight...
But you still have to have the shape to turn the legs that fast, impressive in my book!
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Postby eldrick » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:39 pm

problem with that rumour is that obi ran 19.84 in that race & that looks perfectly reasonable for him, especially in light of recent years where plainly inferior guys like 3j & ndure both also going 19.8
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Postby eldrick » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:33 am

from wiki

150 m: 15.16 'NR' -1.9 Wind 29MAY99

that's got to be worth close to 15-flat with no wind & nearer 14.90 with good wind

anyone who can run 15-flat basic for 150 is well capable of <20

in a 200 race, that split is going to be slower, due to pacing oneself for longer distance & 50m more curve to go, but last 100m of a good 200 is at least 9.6/9.7 & you can 1/2 that for "missing" last 50m to add onto your now slower 150m - 4.80 - 4.85s

there used to be a an alltime 150m list floating around the web, but seems to have disappeared - can anyone find it ?
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Postby Powell » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:56 am

eldrick wrote:problem with that rumour is that obi ran 19.84 in that race & that looks perfectly reasonable for him


But he only ran 20.11 in the final, with +1.2 wind. Incidentally, all guys who qualified from that semi slowed down similarly in the final (Obikwelu 0.27, Urbas 0.32, Little 0.27, with FF DNSing).

I'm not sure what the 'perfectly reasonable' opinion is based on, given that Obikwelu's PB before Sevilla was 20.15, his best of the season after the WCh was an altitude-aided 20.06, and, as long and successful as his career was, he never again managed to break 20 seconds.
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Postby eldrick » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:55 am

we have examples of guys not matching their semi times in the final - marsh's 19.73 & 20.01 is the classic example

frankie's 1/4f & semi offers validation for that semi

he ran 20.10 in that semi for 4th, but had won 1/4-f in 20.11 - he presumably ran what he thought was required to get into top-2 in semi & musta been shocked to find the 20.10 which usually shouda sufficed coud only get him 4th !

obi did have a mixed career after '99 - some injuries i believe & rows with nigerian fed, which led him to become portuguese

he also shifted his emphasise more to 100m & running 9.86er in '04 is more than enough proof that he had the talent to back up that 19.84 from earlier
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Postby Triplej » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:43 am

eldrick mentioned the world 150m list, the UK list gives some interesting info...

UK all time list for men
150 METRES
14.97 0.9 Linford Christie ¶ (ENG) 2.04.60 1 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994
14.99 1.7 Ian Mackie (SCO) 27.02.75 1 Cardiff (L) 31 May 1997
15.15 0.9 John Regis (ENG) 13.10.66 2 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994
15.24 0.3 Darren Braithwaite (ENG) 20.01.69 3 London (CP) 11 Aug 1996
15.31 1.7 Doug Turner (WAL) 2.12.66 3 Cardiff (L) 31 May 1997
15.44 0.3 Darren Campbell (ENG) 12.09.73 6 London (CP) 11 Aug 1996
15.50 -1.0 Marcus Adam (ENG) 28.02.68 2 Edinburgh 7 Jul 1989
15.50 1.0 Owusu Dako (ENG) 23.05.73 2 Cardiff (L) 25 May 1996
15.53 -0.5 Lenny Paul (ENG) 25.05.58 1 London (Ha) 14 Jul 1991
15.66 0.9 Terry Williams (ENG) 15.11.68 7 Sheffield 4 Sep 1994

Interesting to note that Christie and Mackie possibly under-acheived at 200m compared to their 150m times while most others had better 200m times compared to their 150m performances.
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Postby AS » Mon May 18, 2009 10:02 pm

Getting back on topic, Aussie hepthalete Kyle Wheeler has retired:

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news ... -bdwt.html

Won six national titles, 10th in Bejing, #3 Aussie all-time at 6369, two Commonwealth silvers in her main event, plus a gold in 4x4 in 2002 (but only ran the heat)...

Startted out as a 400m hurdler, (went to 1998 WJ in event).
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Postby Speedfirst » Thu May 21, 2009 6:52 am

Matt wrote:Is Ottey likely to throw in the towel after failing to make the Beijing qualifier?


Ottey been retired for years with respect to peforming at a high level, what's the point?
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Postby Matt » Thu May 21, 2009 9:11 am

Wasn't she trying for Beijing?
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Postby Speedfirst » Thu May 21, 2009 10:03 am

Matt wrote:Wasn't she trying for Beijing?


She did, but really it's over for Merlene and has been for awhile.
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Postby 3a » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:13 am

Grace Upshaw has seemingly moved on as of last week.



http://mysocalledfabulouslife.blogspot. ... racie.html

Classy competitor. Kudos to her.

Today Grace left me to head back to the states and begin the next phase of her life, one that does not seem to include jumping in sand anymore.
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Postby jakla » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:25 am

All retiring AFAIK:

    Steffi Nerius
    Franka Dietzsch
    Stacey Dragila
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Postby nevetsllim » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:48 am

Former Commonwealth 400m champion Michael Blackwood retired a few days before the start of the WCh.
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Postby jakla » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:27 am

Kim Collins
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Postby jakla » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:41 am

Marie Collonvillé
Sonja Kesselschläger
Luis Miguel Martin
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Postby nevetsllim » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:08 pm

http://www.european-athletics.org/index ... 2&Itemid=2

Kjersti Platzer has retired. She was actually on the same team as Kristiansen at the 1986 European Championships!
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Postby roixordo » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:10 am

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Postby Gabriella » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:01 am

Claudia Tonn, the German long jumper/heptathlete, has also retired.
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Postby tandfman » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:15 am

Primož Kozmus.
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Postby croflash » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:54 am

tandfman wrote:Primož Kozmus.


Well, according to the article on the front page he is contemplating retirement and it seems like he is leaning towards it, but hasn't made a final decision.

I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.
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Postby nevetsllim » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:31 am

croflash wrote:
tandfman wrote:Primož Kozmus.


Well, according to the article on the front page he is contemplating retirement and it seems like he is leaning towards it, but hasn't made a final decision.

I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.


Someone on another forum (who is Slovenian) said it could have something to do with his quest to get the country to finance top athletes after they retire from sports...
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Postby tandfman » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:04 am

croflash wrote:I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.

I very much doubt that. Very few, if any, of those meets had hammer throws anyway. He did not compete in any meet this year that will be part of the Diamond League next year.

I read another article that said his decision was due to "personal reasons."
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Postby croflash » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:36 am

tandfman wrote:
croflash wrote:I'm wondering whether the the exclusion of the Hammer Throw in the Diamond League has played a (minor) role in that process too.

I very much doubt that. Very few, if any, of those meets had hammer throws anyway. He did not compete in any meet this year that will be part of the Diamond League next year.

I read another article that said his decision was due to "personal reasons."


That was last year when a lot of other events got the same treatment. Come 2010 the HT is basically going to be the only event that will be left out, giving less financial incentive. The WAF is also gone which was a possibility to get huge earnings compared to standard meetings Hammer Throwers were invited to.

As I said, I don't know if that was part of the reason why he is contemplating retirement, but I would imagine that financial aspects are also being considered.
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Postby 26mi235 » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:22 pm

Another miler calls it quits:

I, Christopher Lukezic, am officially retired. Peace out!

A couple oof LetsRun threads with too much of the LR junk.

[There seems to be a bit of confusion:

There is this later post by him (poster has a e-mail link, although not a certainty]

Christopher Lukezic
RE: I, Christopher Lukezic, am officially retired. Peace out! 11/11/2009 12:57PM - in reply to Bareut Doll Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It was meant as a joke dude! You'd be surprised how many professional runners post on here in anonymity.

Ahh. I'll miss this site.
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Postby twinpeeks » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:46 pm

Has he represented the U.S. on any Teams? I cannot recall. Though, ran respectable times a few years back

26mi235 wrote:Another miler calls it quits:

I, Christopher Lukezic, am officially retired. Peace out!

A couple oof LetsRun threads with too much of the LR junk.
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Postby Jon » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:42 am

gh wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Jillian Schwartz - getting married
I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.
According to a story on the T&FN homepage, Schwartz has switched nationality to Israel and aims to compete in 2012. Does anyone know if she has married an Israeli athlete?

On the subject of retired athletes, Rakia Al-Gasara has hung up her spikes at the age of 27 with some health concerns. "Her decision came after many months of medical tests," according to EME news (link on homepage).
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Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:14 pm

If Jillian Schwartz's mother and grandmother are Jewish, she can get Isreali citizenship, regardless of who her husband is.
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Postby 26mi235 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:17 pm

Jon wrote:
gh wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Jillian Schwartz - getting married
I talked to Jillian at Millrose. She has retired. Doing some coaching at Columbia and is getting into the agenting business.
According to a story on the T&FN homepage, Schwartz has switched nationality to Israel and aims to compete in 2012. Does anyone know if she has married an Israeli athlete?


She competed in the Maccabbee (spelling?) Games, so it seems likely that she is Jewish
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Postby highjumpfan » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:49 pm

You don't actually have to be Jewish to compete in the Maccabiah games. It used to be that way, but then the rules changed as international participation waned. Additionally, as long as she can prove her mother was Jewish she can easily obtain Israeli citizenship.
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Postby polevaultpower » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:51 am

Jillian is Jewish and not married. Israel is actively recruiting athletes with Jewish heritage to compete for them. There are others pending.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:13 pm

polevaultpower wrote:Stacy Dragila - getting married

It appears that she was married last weekend.

http://in-the-arena-mike.blogspot.com/2 ... ltius.html
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Postby MOT » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:34 pm

highjumpfan wrote:You don't actually have to be Jewish to compete in the Maccabiah games. It used to be that way, but then the rules changed as international participation waned. . . .

Can you point me to source that says that? I was not aware of that change and everything I can find on the web suggests that, apart from non-Jewish Israelis, the event is still open only to Jewish athletes.
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Postby highjumpfan » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:05 pm

can't point to a source other then first hand experience. Having competed several times in the Maccabiah games and been very friendly with several of the T&F athletes, I can assure you that starting in 2001 they opened the competition up to non-Jewish, Non-Israeli athletes by invitation. 2001 woman's 100 meter champion was from Turkey.
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Postby polevaultpower » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:14 pm

tandfman wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Stacy Dragila - getting married

It appears that she was married last weekend.

http://in-the-arena-mike.blogspot.com/2 ... ltius.html


Baby on the way too! :D
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Postby SantaCruz » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:47 am

jakla wrote:All retiring AFAIK:

    Steffi Nerius
    Franka Dietzsch
    Stacey Dragila


Last weekend, Steffi Nerius has been elected German sportswoman of the year. (First track and field athlete to win since Heike Drechsler in 2000.) Steffi has had a great career and saved the best for last. World champion on home soil at age 37. Perfect ending.
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Postby Marlow » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:42 am

polevaultpower wrote:
tandfman wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:Stacy Dragila - getting married

It appears that she was married last weekend.
http://in-the-arena-mike.blogspot.com/2 ... ltius.html

Baby on the way too! :D

Double mazeltov!
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby nevetsllim » Tue May 04, 2010 9:26 am

Langerholc is expecting her second child and has retired.
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Re: The retirement thread

Postby LopenUupunut » Wed May 12, 2010 6:03 am

Mikaela Ingberg, '95 WC and '98 EC bronze medalist in wJT, finally gives in after injuring her arm for the 736th time.
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