My small meet marks of note include:
8:46 3000 from SFH at the UW May Twilight meet (about 2000?)
~60m jav at the Big Tens (2003?),
2:01i or 2:02i (probably) from Amy Wickus two months before she set the Collegiate record in Indy
And four that I had the opportunity to witness as an official:
4.10m PV from a (former) walk-on at UW May Twilight meet,
1.78 HJ at a JO regional meet from an Intermediate (I think) athlete with an entry mark nowhere close, and this one I got to officiate
2.27i in the HJ at the UW indoor Invite from someone 5'10" (J. Fischer) and this one I got to officiate
~18' 5" in the Deca PV (might have been only 18' 1" made, 18' 5" attempted) at Big Tens.
The only big meet was the Big Tens, but I did not expect just about the best US mark of the year (or one of the best of the millenium).
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Since I won't be going to any more track meets this year, I've just done my annual update. My list of spectator PR's appears in the first post of this thread. If you have not previously read the message above the list, please do. The whole point of the exercise is really not the list--it's the message. If you go to track meets and don't keep your own personal list of spectator PR's, you're missing a fun way to enhance your enjoyment of the sport and of the meets that you do attend.
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My PRs surely cant compare but the awe I felt?
1986 Mt.Sac (I think,I was 13) Billy Olson,Joe Dial and Earl Bell. Saw The KING win the 100m (I think). The thing I remember most was standing near the hot dog stand and Earl ran by me towards the bathroom..."WOW! HE is tall!" The next year I went to a Dec invatational near Stuttgart. My mom went up to Hissegen and got his autograph for me. And hit on her!!!!! Man, I should whooped his a$$!!!! LOL!
The Mile PR thread that was opened today reminded me that I haven't yet done my annual bump of this thread. If you're new here, take a look at the first post on the thread--not just the marks but the message as well.
I'll say again (as I think I do every year) that keeping track of your own spectator PR's really can add to the enjoyment you get from going to track meets. I know it has added to mine.
Latest update, as of Sep 2008. Very few additions (in bold) this season unfortunately
Men Outdoor: 100m - 9.77 200m - 19.84 400m - 43.99 800m - 1:43.88 1500m - 3:30.25 Mile - 3:49.84 3000m - 7:33.54 2 miles - 8:11.16 5000m - 12:46.53 Mar - 2:10:54 3000mSC - 7:59.65 110mH - 13.11 400mH - 48.35 HJ - 2.34 PV - 5.90 LJ - 8.45 TJ - 17.65 SP - 22.45 DT - 69.22 HT - 79.31 JT - 87.59 4x100m - 38.30 4x400m - 3:01.70 Men Indoor: 60m - 6.46 200m - 20.53 400m - 45.34 800m - 1:45.69 1000m - 2:14.96 WR 1500m - 3:34.26 2000m - 4:49.99 WR 3000m - 7:32.43 2 Miles - 8:04.35 WR 5000m - 12:49.60 WR 60mH - 7.36 HJ - 2.40 PV - 5.90 LJ - 8.40 TJ - 17.83 WR SP - 21.57 Hept - 6438 4x400 - 3:04.09 Women Outdoor: 100m - 11.00 (10.89w) 200m - 22.25 400m - 49.05 800m - 1:57.22 1500m - 4:01.15 3000m - 8:29.55 5000m - 14:37.99 10000m - 30:17.15 Mar - 2:34:35 3000mSC - 9:40.95 100mH - 12.57 400mH - 54.04 HJ - 2.05 PV - 4.91 LJ - 7.01 TJ - 14.98 SP - 19.69 DT - 65.54 HT - 76.50 JT - 70.20 4x100m - 42.78 4x400m - 3:23.51 Women Indoor: 60m - 7.04 200m - 22.18 400m - 50.02 800m - 1:57.72 1000m - 2:32.96 1500m - 4:01.67 3000m - 8:31.94 60mH - 7.75 HJ - 2.05 PV - 4.90 WR LJ - 6.98 TJ - 15.36 WR SP - 20.55 Pent - 4948 4x400 - 3:23.88 WR Last edited by Jon on Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:30 pm, edited 3 times in total.
I have never compiled a list of the best performances I have witnessed and may be too far behind to start now but have a questions about the ground rules.
If one is officiating another event concurrent with an exceptional performance in another event but duties prevented actually observing the event, does it count?
Everyone I know who keep track of this sort of thing says that you have to have seen at least part of the performance in question. I'd count a field event performance that occurred during a 5000m race provided that my attention had been diverted to the field event and I'd actually seen it. I'd also count the 5,000m performance even though I hadn't seen every step of the race. But if I were officiating a long jump and someone threw a discus behind my back and I never saw an instant of the throw, I would not count it. (I've missed several PR's in field events at meets I've attended when I simply did not see the throw or jump for various reasons. Obviously, I try not to let that happen and I'm not happy when it does.) At the end of the day, though, there are no rules. Nobody scores it. You don't get penalized if you cheat. It's a matter that you must decide. You have to figure out what your rules will be and then you have to live with them. Remember that the whole purpose of the exercise is to add a new dimension to the experience of going to a track meet and seeing great performances. If it makes you feel better to count things you haven't seen as long as you were in the arena at the time, go right ahead. And if you want to keep two sets of PR's, one limited to things you actually saw, that's ok too.
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Is this a typo or do I not understand what the asterisk means?
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I assume it's Tim Montgomery, hence the asterisk.
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The asterisk indicates that the time is a world record, which it was when he posted it. It appears that gh hasn't updated his PR list since 2004 (at least not the one on this thread), although I'm sure he's seen some PR's since then. I saw the Montgomery 9.78 too, but when that mark was erased from the books, I amended my list to delete it.
MEN
9.82 Greene - Edmonton '01 19.32 Johnson - Atlanta '96 43.39 Johnson - Goteborg '95 1:41.24 Kipketer - Zurich '97 3:26.12 El G - Brussels '01 3:44.90 El G - Oslo '97 7:23.09 El G - Brussels '99 7:53.63 Saidi-Sief - Brussels '04 12:39.74 Komen - Brussels '97 26.27.85 Tergat - Brussels '97 12.88 Liu - Lausanne '06 46.78 Young - Barcelona '92 37.40 USA - Barcelona '92, Stuttgart '93 2:54.29 USA - Stuttgart '93 2.40 Austin - Zurich '91 6.02 Bubka - Atlanta '96 8.71 Lewis - Westwood '84 18.29 Edwards - Goteborg '95 23.12 Barnes - Westwood '90 71.26 Powell - San Jose '84 83.38 Ziolkowski - Edmonton '01 92.80 Zelezny - Edmonton '01 8902 Dvorak - Edmonton '01 WOMEN 10.76 Jones - Monaco '98 21.72 Torrence - Barcelona '92 48.25 Perec - Atlanta '96 1:55.43 Mutola - Stuttgart '93 3:55.30 Boulmerka - Barcelona '92 4:12.56 Masterkova - Zurich '96 8:21.42 Szabo - Monaco '02 9:06.57 Volkova - Osaka '07 14:29.32 Yegorova - Berlin '01 30:04.18 Adere - Paris '03 12.33 Devers - Sacramento '00 52.61 Batten - Goteborg '95 2.06 Cloete - Paris '03 5.01 Isinbaeva - Helsinki '05 7.33 Drechsler - Monaco '92 15.50 Kravets - Goteborg '95 21.22 Kumbernuss - Göteborg 95 71.22 Stalman - Walnut '84 75.10 Kuzenkova - Helsinki '05 71.70 Menendez - Helsinki '05 7032 Kluft - Osaka '07 You got me thinking, so I added the athlete and city. Last edited by br on Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:56 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Men:
100m: 9,80 - Greene, Seville 99 200 m: 19,77 - M Johnson, Stockholm 96 400 m: 43.18 - M Johnson, Seville 99 -WR 800 m: 1.41.87 - W Kipketer, Stockholm 97 -WR (e) 1500 m: 3.26,45 - El Guerrouj, Zurich 98 5000 m: 12.39.74 - Daniel Komen, Brussels 97 -WR 10000 m: 26.27.85 - Paul Tergat, Brussels 97 -WR 3000 m SC: 7.59.08 - Wilson Boit Kipketer, Zurich 97 110 h: 12.92 - Roger Kingdom, Zurich 89 -WR 400 h: 47.17 - Edwin Moses, Berlin 80 HJ: 2.42 - P Sjöberg, Stockholm 87 -WR PV: 6.10 - Bubka, Malmö 91 -WR LJ: 8.70 - Pedroso, Göteborg 95 TJ: 18.29 - Edwards, Göteborg 95 -WR SP: 22.84 - Randy Barnes, Malmö 90 DT: 71.06 - Lars Riedel, Zurich 96 (72.34 Ben Plucknett, Stockholm 81) HT: 82.90 - Yuriy Sedykh, Stuttgart 86 JT: 92.60 - Raymond Hecht, Oslo 96 Decathlon: - 8811 Daley Thomson, Stuttgart 86 Women: 100 m: 10.70 - Marion Jones, Seville 99 200 m: 21.66 - Marlene Ottey, Zurich 90 400 m: 48.22 - Marita Koch, Stuttgart 86 800 m: 1.54.44 - Ana Fidelia Quirot, Barcelona 89 1500 m: 3.55.0 - T Kazankina, Moscow 80 -WR 5000 m: 14.37.33 - Ingrid Kristiansen, Stockholm 86 -WR 10000 m: 30.23.25 - Ingrid Kristiansen, Stuttgart 86 100 m h: 12.37 - Gail Devers, Seville 99 400 m h: 52.61 - Kim Batten, Göteborg 95 -WR HJ: 2.07 - Blanka Vlasic, Stockholm 07 PV: 4.87 - Y Isinbayeva, Stuttgart 07 LJ: 7.27 - Heike Dreschler, Stuttgart 86 TJ: 15.50 - I Kravets, Göteborg 95 -WR SP: 21.22 - A Kumbernuss, Göteborg 95 DT: 68.64 - Margitta Pufe, Berlin 79 HT: 75.20 - M Melinte, Seville 99 JT: 68.32 - T Hettestad, Berlin 00 Heptathlon: - 6861: E Barber, Seville 99
I haven't updated this in nearly four years, so here goes. I've now seen the 23 best men's 4x400m performances in history. Of the 111 sub-3 minute performances ever, I've witnessed 98.
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... or maybe he can just change it to Greene's windy 9.78, Stanford 2003. I'm pretty sure gh was there.
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Most people don't count windy marks when doing their PR list. I've seen a faster 100m than the one I've listed for myself, but it was windy, so I don't have it on my list.
Sorry, my mistake. Don´t know where the"87" came from. 
Of course should be; 800m: 1.41.73 - W Kipketer, Stockholm 97 -WR (e) Thanks!
An off-topic trivia question - why should that mark never have been a world record? Justin
No drug testing? I hope you are not saying suspended by his federation.
No, nothing like that. It has nothing to do with Kipketer at all. Justin
It''s that time of year again. I don't expect to be going to any more track meets this season, and so I've updated my spectator PR list, which appears at the top of the first page of this thread. It's been a terrific year in that department. Last year, I saw only one PR; this year I saw eleven of them. Of course Beijing helped, but so did a number of other places.
For those of you who are new to the Boards, or to this thread, read the post that started the thread. The numbers aren't important--the text is. I still think that keeping spectator PR's is a great way to enhance your enjoyment of the sport, no matter how many or how few meets you attend.
CO-SIGN (although I try to watch other events once I'm done doing my officiating event).   
I'm trying to go for the world junior record of spectators PBs
 I can't be bothered to remember all of them but here are some of the better ones
Outdoors 100m - 9.94 Powell - 2008 Crystal Palace 200m - 19.76 Bolt - 2008 CP 400m - 44.05 Wariner - 2007 CP 3000m - 7:26.69 Bekele - 2007 Sheffield Marathon - 2:06.18 Rutto - 2004 FLM High jump - 2.38m Silnov - 2008 CP Pole vault - 5.97m Lukyanenko and Hooker - 2008 CP Triple jump - 17.46m Idowu - 2008 Annecy (Euro Cup) Shot put - 22.43m Hoffa - 2007 CP Indoors 60m - 6.51 Fasuba - 2008 Valencia WICh 800m - 1:44.91 Kaki - 2008 Valencia 2 miles - 8:04.xx Bekele - 2008 Birmingham 60mH - 7.46 Liu Xiang - 2008 Valencia LJ - 8.30m Howe - 2007 Birmingham EICh TJ - 17.75m Idowu - 2008 Valencia HJ - 2.36m Holm 2008 Valencia PV - 5.90m Lukyanenko 2008 Valencia SP - 21.77m Cantwell 2008 Valencia Hep - 6371 Clay 2008 Valencia Outdoors 100m - 10.87 VCB - CP 2008 200m - 22.19 Felix - Birmingham 2006 400m - 49.79 Richards - CP 2007 Marathon - 2:22:35 - Okoro FLM 2004 3000m SC - 9:22.82 - Petrova Birmingham 2006 LJ - 7.04m Kolchanova - Annecy 2008 HJ - 2.03m Friedrich - Annecy 2008 PV - 4.93m Isinbayeva - CP 2008 HT - 76.24m Lysenko - Birmingham 2006 Indoors 60m - 7.06 A. Williams - Valencia 2008 400m - 50.02 Sanders - Birmingham EICh 2007 1500m - 3:57.71 Soboleva - Valencia 2008 3000m - 8:31.94 Burka - Birmingham 2008 60mH - 7.75 Kallur - Birmingham 2008 LJ - 7.00m Gomes - Valencia 2008 TJ - 15.05m Savigne - Valencia 2008 HJ - 2.05m Hellebaut - Birmingham 2007 PV - 4.76m Feofanova - Birmingham 2007 (at least Sveta beats Issy at something!) SP - 20.19m Vili - Valencia 2008 Pent - 4944 points - Kluft 2008
Let me be clear here; my guess was that no drug testing was conducted, so it could be not be approved for a WR.
Latest update after Berlin:
Men Outdoor: 100m - 9.58 200m - 19.19 400m - 43.99 800m - 1:43.88 1500m - 3:30.25 Mile - 3:49.84 3000m - 7:33.54 2 miles - 8:11.16 5000m - 12:46.53 Mar - 2:06:54 3000mSC - 7:59.65 110mH - 13.11 400mH - 47.91 HJ - 2.34 PV - 5.90 LJ - 8.54 TJ - 17.73 SP - 22.45 DT - 69.43 HT - 80.84 JT - 89.59 4x100m - 37.31 4x400m - 2:57.86 Men Indoor: 60m - 6.46 200m - 20.53 400m - 45.34 800m - 1:45.69 1000m - 2:14.96 1500m - 3:34.26 2000m - 4:49.99 3000m - 7:32.43 2 Miles - 8:04.35 5000m - 12:49.60 60mH - 7.36 HJ - 2.40 PV - 5.90 LJ - 8.40 TJ - 17.83 SP - 21.57 Hept - 6438 4x400 - 3:04.09 Women Outdoor: 100m - 10.73 200m - 22.02 400m - 49.00 800m - 1:55.45 1500m - 4:01.15 3000m - 8:29.55 5000m - 14:37.99 10000m - 29:59.20 Mar - 2:25:15 3000mSC - 9:07.32 100mH - 12.48 400mH - 52.42 HJ - 2.05 PV - 4.91 LJ - 7.10 TJ - 14.98 SP - 20.44 DT - 65.54 HT - 77.96 JT - 70.20 4x100m - 41.88 4x400m - 3:17.83 Women Indoor: 60m - 7.04 200m - 22.18 400m - 50.02 800m - 1:57.72 1000m - 2:32.96 1500m - 4:01.67 3000m - 8:30.53 60mH - 7.75 HJ - 2.05 PV - 4.90 LJ - 6.98 TJ - 15.36 SP - 20.55 Pent - 4948 4x400 - 3:23.88
So we're clear, the rules of "seeing it" (at least in my universe) are that while you don't necessarily need to see the initation of the throw/jump, you need to see the takeoff/relase and the landing of the body/implement.
(as a sad PS I'll note that I saw neither, and that was a step down from Moreno's WR at the '05 meet when I only saw the landing)
I saw the entire throw from initiation till landing. I had kept an eye on that competition in general and on Włodarczyk in particular (although I was sitting in the finish line sector, which wasn't great for watching the HT). Somehow, though, I missed her post-throw celebration and the injury.
I'm trying to remember why I didn't see it; things were amazingly hectic at that point. As I recall, both mPV and mLJ were at crucial junctures. And, if I'm not mistaken, didn't throw happen during the last lap (or even 200) of the w5000?
I talked to one guy (stop me if I posted this already!) who heard the German announcer yell "Weltrekord! Weltrekord!" and said, "no, dummy, that was 14:57, not 13:57!"
You've all inspired me to actually try and go to a few pro-level track meets. Is there a thread on the best meets to go to as a spectator (my going to a pro-meet will have to coincide with a family/spouse vacation so that must be taken into account)?
Let's hope you don't like to vacation in Wisconsin. Best I've been to are championship meets. Grand prix's are OK but do not have the same energy (although I've only been to Edinburgh and Crystal Palace and good meet in NYC). I always wanted to go to Bislet. Indoor meets are good as you can be a little closer to the action, unless you're in the nose bleed seats at Madison Square Garden.
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