SQUACKEE wrote:what a great question! where is nut?
400h-47.8 aqui boa sp?
Maybe "aqui" was the name of Janis Joplin's feather boa.
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someone who doesnt even have enough respect for an x-world record holder to look up his name for correct spelling deserves worse than this! come on!! and by the way janis's boa was named fred.
I used to keep a top-10 list of my PBS ("Personal Bests Seen")--talk about nerdly! I've let it lapse in recent years. The following is incomplete, but is what I can remember right now:
Men 100: 9.87 (and 9.78w) 400: 43.68 800: 1:41.24 (and 1:42.20, 1:42.47, 1:42.55, etc.) 1500: 3:26.12 (and 3:26.45, 3:26.89, 3:27.21, etc.) mile: 3:45.19 (I think I've got the 100ths correct) 3000: 7:25.16 (and 7:25.54, 7:26.02, etc.) Steeple: 7:55.28 (and "7:53.17", 7:58.50, 7:58.98, 7:59.08, 7:59.18, etc.) 5000: 12:39.74 (and 12:41.86, 12:44.39, etc.) 10,000: 26:27.85 (and 26:52.23) Women: 100: 10.49 (or "10.49"?) 200: 21.66 400: 48.92 800: 1:55.19 mile: 4:12.56 3000: 8:21.64 (at the time, an unacknowledged WR) This was mine, with one addition, posted above (for some reason) under "Guest." I only saw one big meet in '05 and it was wet & windy, so only one to add for '05...
What is wrong with me? (Or, alternatively, what is wrong with the rest of you?!?!?) I've never tried to keep track of any of the marks I've seen. I guess I could go back through the list of meets I've been to and try to track down marks, but I think I'll pass.
That said, I do remember one or two. I'm guessing I saw the same 9.78w that kuha did - Mo Green at the 2003 Payton Jordan meet at Stanford.
"I've never tried to keep track of any of the marks I've seen."
I'm shocked, stunned, and gravely disappointed. I know that there are therapies and support groups for this kind of malady.   
Re: the 9.78w, I was thinking of Lewis at the '88 Oly Trials...I hope I have the time right...
If I end up in therapy, there are plenty of things for me to get worked out before we get to this issue.
My guess was based on - how many 9.78w races could there be? I guess the answer is at least two.
hey everybody, what about best highschool marks you witnessed.
4:05 mile 1:48 1/2 mile 8:55 2 mile 195 ft discus whatever dwight stones jumped to win calif. state meet
My memory is fuzzy, but I believe that the fastest HS mile and 2 mile races I've ever seen were within an hour of each other and by the same athlete: Craig Virgin in 1973: 4:08.5 and 8:48.6. I remember how exciting it was to see a 4:10.8 mile in the 1970 Connecticut HS championships (by Jim Euell, on a very loose track).
Second best one-day schoolboy double ever, behind Rich Kimball's 1974 CA State Meet 8.46.6 and 4:06.6, run within about 70 minutes of each other. (Which I did not see.)
Men
9.82 19.66 43.44 1:42.80 3:28.37 13:03.47 27:07.55 8:00.67 12.92 47.03 37.40 2:54.29 2.40 6.02 8.63 17.86 22.54 69.72 83.38 92.80/new 8902 wonder how all of ours would look if we eliminated Worlds/OG/GP meets 
"wonder how all of ours would look if we eliminated Worlds/OG/GP meets"
In other words, you're asking: "I wonder how all of ours would look if we never went to any good meets?" Answer: Pretty pathetic.
I've got a stat-nutty friend (who doesn't post here) who keeps an ongoing list of the 50 fastest high school miles he has ever seen.
Not necessarily! You still have the Euros, Pan Ams, etc., along with a host of non-GP meets with plenty of great marks.
"Not necessarily! You still have the Euros, Pan Ams, etc., along with a host of non-GP meets with plenty of great marks."
"Plenty of great marks"??? I'd suggest that a look at the all-time list would not really support this view. How many top marks have we seen in the last few Pan-Am Games, for example? In fact, how does the entire history of the Pan-Ams match up to, say, any two Zurich meets from the last dozen years?
Being as how many, if not most, of the people who read this board will never be able to attend one of those nifty European GP meets, it seems interesting to me who has seen the best "non" marks.
Hell, with enough cash anyone can go to Zurich and see a bunch of superior marks every year. I'm always more impressed by that "Wow!" performance that comes in an unexpected place.
Men
9.86 Powell 20.31 Bolt 44.27 Pettigrew 1.45.74 Watson or Morgan 13.48 Wignall 8.29 Beckford 17.xx Beckford 2.30 Hemingway Women 10.96 V.Campbell 22.17 V.Campbell 50.11 J. Campbell 12.50 Devers 6.86 Golding 14.74 Smith
"Hell, with enough cash anyone can go to Zurich and see a bunch of superior marks every year. I'm always more impressed by that "Wow!" performance that comes in an unexpected place."
I humbly admit that you are completely correct. What is the point in making any effort to see superior marks? Why bother going to Europe to see good meets? All it takes is money, after all! Where's the challenge in that? The best idea: stay in one place, keep your head in the sand, and let the great performances come to YOU. Yeah! That's the ticket!!
Hey, to each his own, I say. You keep your snobby, elitist, money-fueled list and I'll stick with my "everyman" list  Glad to know you are wealthy enough to make all the big meets.
That does bring up a good question for the masses (using that term loosely) who populate this board -- how many of you have ever been to a Golden League meet?
No, I honestly don't think it's a matter of being snobby or elitist. If you are really interested in art, then with some regularity you take the time and effort to go to the world's great museums. If you are really interested in music, then with some regularity you take the time and effort to hear the best musicians. If you are really interested in high level track and field, then with some regularity you take the time and effort to see the best performers in the best meets. That's about it...
[/quote]- how many of you have ever been to a Golden League meet?[/quote]
Not I. I attended Zurich Weltklasse in '81 & '87, but that was WAY prior to GL.. I would like to do a vacation in Belgium/Netherlands wrapped around Van Damme.
there once was a warm and unassuming track fan who made the effort to journey to a faraway land to witness the greatest, the fastest and the strongest. when he made his way back he kindly sought to share his wonderful memories with like minded souls. to his surprise not everyone was happy to hear what a wonderous time he had experienced. some called him a snob and an elitist. some were jealous but he kept posting because he knew there were kindred spirits who even though they had never ventured to such faraway lands, marveled and appreciated every word.
I am envious, not jealous. If I had the resources I’d be sitting in the stands with kuha every time.
me also. i might ask the rich bastard to buy me a brat wurst and bier, bitter. und snell!!
Guess the tongue was much too firmly in cheek
I was trying to elicit responses from those here who maybe don't have the wherewithal to get to OG/WC/GL meets. I would really be interested, for example, in what the best "non-major" performance witnessed by Mark would be. Something at a CG, maybe, or a British league meet, etc. Or someone who has been to a bunch of NCAA champs. One of my best memories at a non-major is the 8.14 LJ by then-junior Sheddric Fields at a small meet in Cwmbran on a U.S. "B" team tour.
One of my best memories of a non-major was the 2.33m (7-7 3/4) high jump of Vladimir Yashchenko in the 1977 US-USSR Junior dual meet. That jump broke Dwight Stones's World Record--not exactly what anyone expected to see at a junior meet held at a local track in Richmond, VA.
My small meet marks of note include:
8:46 3000 from SFH at the UW May Twilight meet (about 2000?) ~60m jav at the Big Tens (2003?), 2:01i or 2:02i (probably) from Amy Wickus two months before she set the Collegiate record in Indy And four that I had the opportunity to witness as an official: 4.10m PV from a (former) walk-on at UW May Twilight meet, 1.78 HJ at a JO regional meet from an Intermediate (I think) athlete with an entry mark nowhere close, and this one I got to officiate 2.27i in the HJ at the UW indoor Invite from someone 5'10" (J. Fischer) and this one I got to officiate ~18' 5" in the Deca PV (might have been only 18' 1" made, 18' 5" attempted) at Big Tens. The only big meet was the Big Tens, but I did not expect just about the best US mark of the year (or one of the best of the millenium).
Since I won't be going to any more track meets this year, I've just done my annual update. My list of spectator PR's appears in the first post of this thread. If you have not previously read the message above the list, please do. The whole point of the exercise is really not the list--it's the message. If you go to track meets and don't keep your own personal list of spectator PR's, you're missing a fun way to enhance your enjoyment of the sport and of the meets that you do attend.
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My PRs surely cant compare but the awe I felt?
1986 Mt.Sac (I think,I was 13) Billy Olson,Joe Dial and Earl Bell. Saw The KING win the 100m (I think). The thing I remember most was standing near the hot dog stand and Earl ran by me towards the bathroom..."WOW! HE is tall!" The next year I went to a Dec invatational near Stuttgart. My mom went up to Hissegen and got his autograph for me. And hit on her!!!!! Man, I should whooped his a$$!!!! LOL!
The Mile PR thread that was opened today reminded me that I haven't yet done my annual bump of this thread. If you're new here, take a look at the first post on the thread--not just the marks but the message as well.
I'll say again (as I think I do every year) that keeping track of your own spectator PR's really can add to the enjoyment you get from going to track meets. I know it has added to mine.
Latest update, as of Sep 2008. Very few additions (in bold) this season unfortunately
Men Outdoor: 100m - 9.77 200m - 19.84 400m - 43.99 800m - 1:43.88 1500m - 3:30.25 Mile - 3:49.84 3000m - 7:33.54 2 miles - 8:11.16 5000m - 12:46.53 Mar - 2:10:54 3000mSC - 7:59.65 110mH - 13.11 400mH - 48.35 HJ - 2.34 PV - 5.90 LJ - 8.45 TJ - 17.65 SP - 22.45 DT - 69.22 HT - 79.31 JT - 87.59 4x100m - 38.30 4x400m - 3:01.70 Men Indoor: 60m - 6.46 200m - 20.53 400m - 45.34 800m - 1:45.69 1000m - 2:14.96 WR 1500m - 3:34.26 2000m - 4:49.99 WR 3000m - 7:32.43 2 Miles - 8:04.35 WR 5000m - 12:49.60 WR 60mH - 7.36 HJ - 2.40 PV - 5.90 LJ - 8.40 TJ - 17.83 WR SP - 21.57 Hept - 6438 4x400 - 3:04.09 Women Outdoor: 100m - 11.00 (10.89w) 200m - 22.25 400m - 49.05 800m - 1:57.22 1500m - 4:01.15 3000m - 8:29.55 5000m - 14:37.99 10000m - 30:17.15 Mar - 2:34:35 3000mSC - 9:40.95 100mH - 12.57 400mH - 54.04 HJ - 2.05 PV - 4.91 LJ - 7.01 TJ - 14.98 SP - 19.69 DT - 65.54 HT - 76.50 JT - 70.20 4x100m - 42.78 4x400m - 3:23.51 Women Indoor: 60m - 7.04 200m - 22.18 400m - 50.02 800m - 1:57.72 1000m - 2:32.96 1500m - 4:01.67 3000m - 8:31.94 60mH - 7.75 HJ - 2.05 PV - 4.90 WR LJ - 6.98 TJ - 15.36 WR SP - 20.55 Pent - 4948 4x400 - 3:23.88 WR Last edited by Jon on Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:30 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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