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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby Jon » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:22 am

I'm glad someone brought this thread up again - I have several new "PRs" from this year - both indoors and outdoors, including some WRs:

Men Outdoor:
100m - 9.91
200m - 20.20
400m - 44.68
800m - 1:43.88
1500m - 3:30.25
Mile - 3:49.84
3000m - 7:41.31
5000m - 12:46.53
3000mST - 7:59.65
110mH - 13.11
400mH - 48.43
HJ - 2.28
PV - 5.67
LJ - 8.35
TJ - 17.59
SP - 21.55
DT - 68.42
HT - 74.40
JT - 87.59
4x100m - 38.62
4x400m - 3:06.28

Men Indoor:
60m - 6.46
200m - 20.62
400m - 45.34
800m - 1:45.69
1000m - 2:14.96*
1500m - 3:42.59
3000m - 7:40.97
2 Miles - 8:08.39*
5000m - 12:49.60*
60mH - 7.36
HJ - 2.35
PV - 5.80
LJ - 8.40
TJ - 17.83*
SP - 21.49
Hept - 6438
4x400 - 3:04.09

Women Outdoor:
100m - 11.04
200m - 22.83
400m - 49.25
800m - 1:57.68
1500m - 4:01.15
5000m - 14:37.99
10000m - 30:17.15
100mH - 12.57
400mH - 54.05
HJ - 2.03
PV - 4.90
LJ - 7.01
TJ - 14.98
SP - 17.91
DT - 59.03
HT - 69.97
JT - 58.45
4x100m - 43.03
4x400m - 3:28.27

Women Indoor:
60m - 7.04
200m - 22.18
400m - 50.19
800m - 1:57.72
1000m - 2:32.96
1500m - 4:01.67
3000m - 8:32.88*
60mH - 7.75
HJ - 2.04
PV - 4.86*
LJ - 6.98
TJ - 15.36*
SP - 20.55
Pent - 4933
4x400 - 3:23.88*
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby Discus Chick » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:50 am

Didnt you see Lebedeva in Budapest??
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby trig » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:08 pm

Here are my PR's. Garry, do I count as a professional?

Men
100 – 9.80
200 – 19.32
400 – 43.18
800 – 1:42.49
1,500 – 3:26.45
3,000SC – 8:00.60
5,000 – 12:49.28
10,000 – 26:49.38
110H – 12.91
400H – 46.78
4x100 – 37.40
4x400 – 2:54.29
HJ – 2.41
PV – 6.05 (19 10¼)
LJ – 8.95 (29-4½)
TJ – 18.29 (60-¼)
SP – 22.47 (73’8¾)
DT – 71.32
HT - 84.80
JT – 92.80 (304-9)
Decathlon – 8902

Women

100 – 10.49
200 – 21.34
400 – 47.99
800 – 1:53.43
1,500 – 3:53.96
5,000 – 14:33.65
10,000 – 30:04.18
100H – 12.33
400H – 52.61
4x100 – 41.47
4x400 – 3:15.17
HJ – 2.09 (6-10¼)
PV – 4.90
LJ – 7.40
TJ – 15.50 (50 10¼)
SP – 22.41
DT – 72.30
HT – 75.20 (246-9)
JT – 69.53
Heptathlon – 7291
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby Jon » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:13 pm

>Didnt you see Lebedeva in Budapest??


Yes, and her marks (6.98m, 15.36m) are listed under the women's indoor sub-header.
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby tandfman » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:23 pm

Trig wrote:
>Here are my PR's. . . . . 3,000SC – *:00.60<

Good thing you didn't blink.
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby trig » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:25 pm

Sorry, obviously an 8 was intended.
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby EPelle » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:40 pm

>Sorry, obviously an 8 was intended.

Why be sorry? You saw a record no one else in the history of this board will ever see! My spectator PB:s are not even in the same universe as that one! Your name will live on for ages to come :)
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby RMc » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:55 pm

Here's mine. Note that I have to research a couple of meets where I think I saw better performances before I started this list in 1992:

Men's
100 9.90 Leroy Burrell 1991 TAC, NYC (WR)
9.78w Carl Lewis 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
200 19.32 Michael Johnson 1996 Olympics (WR)
400 43.49 Michael Johnson 1996 Olympics
800 1:42.58 Vejoem Rodal 1996 Olympics
1500 3:32.88 Nouredine Morcelli 1996 Olympics 8/1 semi
Mile 3:55.63 Matt Guisto 1993, Kezar Mizuno I, San Francisco (May 15) 1978, Crystal Palace (Steve Cram-3:57)
1982 Jenner I. (Tom Smith 3:55)
3000 7:45.82 Aaron Ramirez 1991 Jenner I., San Jose
1982 Kinney I., Berkeley
Steeple 8:05.4 Henry Rono 1978, Seattle May 13 (WR)
5000 13:19.99 Bob Kennedy 1995 USATF, Sacramento
10000 27:04.20 Abraham Chebile 2001 Cardinal Invite, May 4
110 HH 12.95 Allen Johnson 1996 Olympics, Atlanta
400 IH 47.37 Edwin Moses 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
4x100 38.71 Texas A&M 1988 NCAA, Eugene
1991 NCAA, Eugene
4x400 2:59.91 UCLA 1988 NCAA, Eugene
HJ 7-8.25 Hollis Conway 1992 FOT, New Orleans
7-8.25 Darin Plab 1992 FOT, New Orleans
PV 19-9/6.02 Jeff Hartwig 1999 USATF, Eugene (AR)
LJ 28-9/8.76 Carl Lewis 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
TJ 58-7.5/ Mike Conley 1987 TAC, San Jose
59-8.5w/18.20w Willie Banks 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
SP 75-9.5/23.10 Randy Barnes 1990 Jenner I. (May 26)
DT 233-7/71.20 Ben Plucknett 1981 Modesto Relays (May 16) (WR)
HT 262-10/80.12 Jud Logan 1992 FOT, New Orleans
JT 272-6 Tom Pukstys 1991 TAC, New York
280+ Patrick Boden 1991 NCAA, Eugene
(old) 306-7/93.44 Duncan Atwood 1984 FOT, Los Angeles
Dec 8824 Dan O'Brien 1996 Olympics, Atlanta
8844w Dan O'Brien 1991 TAC, New York

Women's
100 10.49 Florence Griffith-Joyner 1988 FOT, Indianapolis (finals)
200 21.77 Florence Griffith-Joyner 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
400 48.25 Marie-Jose Perec 1996 Olympics, Atlanta
800 1:57.73 Svetlana Masterkova 1996 Olympics, Atlanta
1500 3:58.92 Mary Slaney 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
Mile 4:23.2 Mary Slaney 1982 Kinney, Berkeley
3000 8:34.91 Mary Slaney 1984 FOT, Indianapolis
Steeple 9:39.35 Ann Gaffigan 2004 FOT, Sacramento
5000 14:45.35 Regina Jacobs 2000 FOT, Sacramento (AR)
10000 31:09.65 Deena Kastor 2004 FOT, Sacramento
100 H 12.33 Gail Devers 2000 FOT, Sacramento (AR)
400 H 52.82 Deon Hemmings 1996 Olympics, Atlanta
4x100 42.88 Texas 1991 NCAA, Eugene
4x400 3:27.50 Texas 1991 NCAA, Eugene
HJ 6-6.25/1.99 Louise Ritter 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
6-6.25/1.99 Tisha Waller 1999 USATF, Eugene
PV 15-7/4.75 Stacy Dragila 2004 FOT, Sacramento
LJ 23-8.25/7.22 Jackie Joyner-Kersee 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
24-5.5/7.45w Jackie Joyner-Kersee 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
TJ 50-3.5 Inessa Kravets 1996 Olympics, Atlanta
SP 63-5/19.36 Ramona Pagel 1988 FOT, Indianapolis
DT 228-6 Ilke Wyluda 1996 Olympics, Atlanta
HT (haven't seen it yet)
JT 191-2 Lynda Blutreich 2000 FOT, Sacramento
(old) 213-5 Kate Schmidt 1976 FOT, Eugene
Hep 7215 Jackie Joyner-Kersee 1988 FOT, Indianapolis (WR)
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby trig » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:28 pm

???

8:00.60 is not as good as tandfman's 7:56.94
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby mike renfro » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:54 pm

Yeah, I had forgotten this thread, and I promised a list for sneering purposes only. So, here tis (outdoors only, on the left coast, we don't do indoor):

Men
100 9.80 WC '01
200 19.80 OG '84
400 43.65 WC '93
800 1:43.00 OG '84
1500 3:31.43 WK '87
3000SC 8:04.39 WC '03
5000 12:52.79 WC '03
10000 26:49.57 WC '03
110H 12.91 WC '93
400H 47.18 WC '93
4x100 37.40 WC '93
4x400 2:54.29 WC '93
HJ 2.40 WC '93
PV 6.05 WC '01
LJ 8.75 OT '88
TJ 17.97 TAC '85
SP 23.10 Jen '90
DT 71.26 TAC '84 (could have = @'85 Jen, didn't
get to the field in time)
HT 83.38 WC '01
JT 92.80 WC '01
Dec 8902 WC '01

Women
100 10.49 OT '88 (okay, my PR is probably 10.61)
200 21.74 WC '87
400 47.99 WC '83
800 1:54.44 W Cup '89
1500 3:57.12 US-Nord '83
5000 14:45.35 OT '00 (didn't pay enough attn at WC
H '03 to claim =)
10000 30:04.18 WC '03
100H 12.33 OT '00
400H 52.74 WC '93
4x100 41.49 WC '93
4x100 3:16.92 WC '93
HJ 2.09 WC '87
PV 4.75 WC '01 (x2), WC '03, OT '04
LJ 7.36 WC '87
TJ 15.25 WC '01
SP 21.81 US-DDR '83
DT 73.04 E Cup '89
JT 69.73 WC '01
Hep 7215 OT '88

My wife Mary has been to most of the big meets with me. We met in '75, when I was just getting reinterested in the sport. I have the Bank's TJ and she has 2 17.92s WCs '87, '01. She has me at the HT, with an Astapkovich 84.12 @ GWG '90. I had tickets, but was up to my butt at work, so gave them to the Hubbards. Of course, I was laid off early the next year, so working hard really paid off. I did get a pretty good severance. :-).

Edited to add w relays and numerous error in WC dates.
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby gh » Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:05 pm

So did John Bobbitt.
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby Discus Chick » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:33 am

>>Didnt you see Lebedeva in Budapest??


Yes, and her marks (6.98m, 15.36m)
>are listed under the women's indoor sub-header.

I wasnt actually talking to you Jon - my mistake I thought I'd quoted Garry who claimed only to have seen two PRs this year - at the Olympics.

I'm only just learning to use this forum!
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby gh » Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:51 am

my wTJ PR surpasses Budapest
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Re: Spectator PR's

Postby mike renfro » Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:37 pm

>So did John Bobbitt.

But ole John Wayne got reattached! :-0

Yeah, Kravets jumped pretty well! How does that compare with your (gh) pr in actually doing the jumping? This isn't being snide, just curious.
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Postby tandfman » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:47 pm

Just edited the post that started this thread. (In case you're wondering what bumped the thread).
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Postby gh » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:07 pm

You just wanted to note that you saw the Menéndez WR in Helsinki this summer while I was occupied on company business, so you pass me!
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Postby SQUACKEE » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:08 pm

what a great question! where is nut?

mine are pretty humble, why? seen only one big meet in europe!

100 yard-9 flat john carlos- windy
440 yards-44.5? tommie smith
800 m. 145.sumthing- dave whottle
mile- 3:55 jim ryan
2 miles, indoors 8:31 steve prefontaine
10,000m 27:39 lasse virin
high jump- 7'61/2" pat matzdorf
400h-47.8 aqui boa sp?
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Postby dukehjsteve » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:17 pm

[quote="SQUACKEE"]what a great question! where is nut?

mine are pretty humble, why? seen only one big meet in europe!

100 yard-9 flat john carlos- windy
440 yards-44.5? tommie smith
800 m. 145.sumthing- dave whottle
mile- 3:55 jim ryan
2 miles, indoors 8:31 steve prefontaine
10,000m 27:39 lasse virin
high jump- 7'61/2" pat matzdorf
400h-47.8 aqui boa sp?[/quote]


Spelling lesson: Wottle, Ryun, Viren, Akii-Bua

Smith mark probably, surely, was his 44.8 y, 44.5 m enroute, both hand timed.
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Postby Jon » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:37 am

My latest (as of October 8th, 2006 - a lot of good additions this year!):

Men Outdoor:
100m - 9.77
200m - 19.84
400m - 43.99
800m - 1:43.88
1500m - 3:30.25
Mile - 3:49.84
3000m - 7:33.54
2 miles - 8:11.27
5000m - 12:46.53
3000mSC - 7:59.65
110mH - 13.11
400mH - 48.43
HJ - 2.34
PV - 5.90
LJ - 8.45
TJ - 17.59
SP - 22.45
DT - 69.22
HT - 79.31
JT - 87.59
4x100m - 38.62
4x400m - 3:03.59

Men Indoor:
60m - 6.46
200m - 20.53
400m - 45.34
800m - 1:45.69
1000m - 2:14.96 WR
1500m - 3:34.26
3000m - 7:40.97
2 Miles - 8:05.12
5000m - 12:49.60 WR
60mH - 7.36
HJ - 2.40
PV - 5.90
LJ - 8.40
TJ - 17.83 WR
SP - 21.49
Hept - 6438
4x400 - 3:04.09

Women Outdoor:
100m - 11.00 (10.89w)
200m - 22.25
400m - 49.05
800m - 1:57.22
1500m - 4:01.15
3000m - 8:29.55
5000m - 14:37.99
10000m - 30:17.15
3000mSC - 9:45.73
100mH - 12.57
400mH - 54.05
HJ - 2.05
PV - 4.91
LJ - 7.01
TJ - 14.98
SP - 19.36
DT - 65.54
HT - 76.50
JT - 64.08
4x100m - 43.03
4x400m - 3:23.51

Women Indoor:
60m - 7.04
200m - 22.18
400m - 50.19
800m - 1:57.72
1000m - 2:32.96
1500m - 4:01.67
3000m - 8:32.88 WR
60mH - 7.75
HJ - 2.04
PV - 4.90 WR
LJ - 6.98
TJ - 15.36 WR
SP - 20.55
Pent - 4948
4x400 - 3:23.88 WR
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Postby tandfman » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:17 am

Jon's post has prompted me to do an indoor list of my own. I'll add it to the first post as well.

Men

60 - 6.39*
200 - 20.10
400 - 44.57*
800 - 1:42.67
1500 - 3:33.77
3000 - 7:34.71
60H - 7.36
HJ - 2.43* (7-11 1/2)
PV - 6.00 (19-8 1/4)
LJ - 8.79* (28-10 1/4)
TJ - 17.83* (58-6)
SP - 22.24 (72-11 3/4)
Hept - 6476*
4x400 - 3:02.83*

Women

60 - 6.95
200 - 22.15
400 - 50.19
800 - 1:56.90
1500 - 3:59.98*
3000 - 8:30.05
60H - 7.74
HJ - 2.05 (6-8 3/4)
PV - 4.86 (15-11 1/4)
LJ - 7.32 (24- 1/4)
TJ - 15.36* (50-4 3/4)
SP - 20.55 (67-5 1/4)
Pent - 4948
4x400 - 3:23.88*
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Postby DrJay » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:01 am

SQUACKEE wrote:what a great question! where is nut?


400h-47.8 aqui boa sp?



Maybe "aqui" was the name of Janis Joplin's feather boa.
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:20 am

DrJay wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:what a great question! where is nut?


400h-47.8 aqui boa sp?



Maybe "aqui" was the name of Janis Joplin's feather boa.


someone who doesnt even have enough respect for an x-world record holder to look up his name for correct spelling deserves worse than this! come on!!

and by the way janis's boa was named fred.
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Postby kuha » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:13 am

I used to keep a top-10 list of my PBS ("Personal Bests Seen")--talk about nerdly! I've let it lapse in recent years. The following is incomplete, but is what I can remember right now:

Men
100: 9.87 (and 9.78w)
400: 43.68
800: 1:41.24 (and 1:42.20, 1:42.47, 1:42.55, etc.)
1500: 3:26.12 (and 3:26.45, 3:26.89, 3:27.21, etc.)
mile: 3:45.19 (I think I've got the 100ths correct)
3000: 7:25.16 (and 7:25.54, 7:26.02, etc.)
Steeple: 7:55.28 (and "7:53.17", 7:58.50, 7:58.98, 7:59.08, 7:59.18, etc.)
5000: 12:39.74 (and 12:41.86, 12:44.39, etc.)
10,000: 26:27.85 (and 26:52.23)

Women:
100: 10.49 (or "10.49"?)
200: 21.66
400: 48.92
800: 1:55.19
mile: 4:12.56
3000: 8:21.64 (at the time, an unacknowledged WR)

This was mine, with one addition, posted above (for some reason) under "Guest." I only saw one big meet in '05 and it was wet & windy, so only one to add for '05...
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Postby bad hammy » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:21 am

What is wrong with me? (Or, alternatively, what is wrong with the rest of you?!?!?) I've never tried to keep track of any of the marks I've seen. I guess I could go back through the list of meets I've been to and try to track down marks, but I think I'll pass.

That said, I do remember one or two. I'm guessing I saw the same 9.78w that kuha did - Mo Green at the 2003 Payton Jordan meet at Stanford.
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Postby kuha » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:30 am

"I've never tried to keep track of any of the marks I've seen."

I'm shocked, stunned, and gravely disappointed. I know that there are therapies and support groups for this kind of malady. :shock: :arrow: :D

Re: the 9.78w, I was thinking of Lewis at the '88 Oly Trials...I hope I have the time right...
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Postby bad hammy » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:43 am

kuha wrote:"I've never tried to keep track of any of the marks I've seen."

I'm shocked, stunned, and gravely disappointed. I know that there are therapies and support groups for this kind of malady. :shock: :arrow: :D

Re: the 9.78w, I was thinking of Lewis at the '88 Oly Trials...I hope I have the time right...

If I end up in therapy, there are plenty of things for me to get worked out before we get to this issue. :D

My guess was based on - how many 9.78w races could there be? I guess the answer is at least two.
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:10 am

hey everybody, what about best highschool marks you witnessed.

4:05 mile
1:48 1/2 mile
8:55 2 mile
195 ft discus
whatever dwight stones jumped to win calif. state meet
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Postby kuha » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:32 am

My memory is fuzzy, but I believe that the fastest HS mile and 2 mile races I've ever seen were within an hour of each other and by the same athlete: Craig Virgin in 1973: 4:08.5 and 8:48.6. I remember how exciting it was to see a 4:10.8 mile in the 1970 Connecticut HS championships (by Jim Euell, on a very loose track).
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Postby bad hammy » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:42 am

kuha wrote:Craig Virgin in 1973: 4:08.5 and 8:48.6.

Second best one-day schoolboy double ever, behind Rich Kimball's 1974 CA State Meet 8.46.6 and 4:06.6, run within about 70 minutes of each other. (Which I did not see.)
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Postby gm » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:44 am

Men
9.82
19.66
43.44
1:42.80
3:28.37
13:03.47
27:07.55
8:00.67
12.92
47.03
37.40
2:54.29
2.40
6.02
8.63
17.86
22.54
69.72
83.38
92.80/new
8902

wonder how all of ours would look if we eliminated Worlds/OG/GP meets :)
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Postby kuha » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:16 am

"wonder how all of ours would look if we eliminated Worlds/OG/GP meets"

In other words, you're asking: "I wonder how all of ours would look if we never went to any good meets?"

Answer: Pretty pathetic.
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Postby gh » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:29 am

SQUACKEE wrote:hey everybody, what about best highschool marks you witnessed.

4:05 mile
1:48 1/2 mile
8:55 2 mile
195 ft discus
whatever dwight stones jumped to win calif. state meet


I've got a stat-nutty friend (who doesn't post here) who keeps an ongoing list of the 50 fastest high school miles he has ever seen.
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Postby gm » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:20 pm

kuha wrote:"wonder how all of ours would look if we eliminated Worlds/OG/GP meets"

In other words, you're asking: "I wonder how all of ours would look if we never went to any good meets?"

Answer: Pretty pathetic.


Not necessarily! You still have the Euros, Pan Ams, etc., along with a host of non-GP meets with plenty of great marks.
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Postby kuha » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:33 pm

"Not necessarily! You still have the Euros, Pan Ams, etc., along with a host of non-GP meets with plenty of great marks."

"Plenty of great marks"??? I'd suggest that a look at the all-time list would not really support this view. How many top marks have we seen in the last few Pan-Am Games, for example? In fact, how does the entire history of the Pan-Ams match up to, say, any two Zurich meets from the last dozen years?
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Postby gm » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:59 pm

Being as how many, if not most, of the people who read this board will never be able to attend one of those nifty European GP meets, it seems interesting to me who has seen the best "non" marks.

Hell, with enough cash anyone can go to Zurich and see a bunch of superior marks every year. I'm always more impressed by that "Wow!" performance that comes in an unexpected place.
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Postby DentyCracker » Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:49 pm

Men
9.86 Powell
20.31 Bolt
44.27 Pettigrew
1.45.74 Watson or Morgan
13.48 Wignall
8.29 Beckford
17.xx Beckford
2.30 Hemingway

Women
10.96 V.Campbell
22.17 V.Campbell
50.11 J. Campbell
12.50 Devers
6.86 Golding
14.74 Smith
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Postby kuha » Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:59 am

"Hell, with enough cash anyone can go to Zurich and see a bunch of superior marks every year. I'm always more impressed by that "Wow!" performance that comes in an unexpected place."

I humbly admit that you are completely correct. What is the point in making any effort to see superior marks? Why bother going to Europe to see good meets? All it takes is money, after all! Where's the challenge in that? The best idea: stay in one place, keep your head in the sand, and let the great performances come to YOU. Yeah! That's the ticket!!
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Postby gm » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:40 am

kuha wrote:"Hell, with enough cash anyone can go to Zurich and see a bunch of superior marks every year. I'm always more impressed by that "Wow!" performance that comes in an unexpected place."

I humbly admit that you are completely correct. What is the point in making any effort to see superior marks? Why bother going to Europe to see good meets? All it takes is money, after all! Where's the challenge in that? The best idea: stay in one place, keep your head in the sand, and let the great performances come to YOU. Yeah! That's the ticket!!


Hey, to each his own, I say. You keep your snobby, elitist, money-fueled list and I'll stick with my "everyman" list :lol: Glad to know you are wealthy enough to make all the big meets.

That does bring up a good question for the masses (using that term loosely) who populate this board -- how many of you have ever been to a Golden League meet?
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Postby kuha » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:05 am

No, I honestly don't think it's a matter of being snobby or elitist. If you are really interested in art, then with some regularity you take the time and effort to go to the world's great museums. If you are really interested in music, then with some regularity you take the time and effort to hear the best musicians. If you are really interested in high level track and field, then with some regularity you take the time and effort to see the best performers in the best meets. That's about it...
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Postby Jon » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:01 am

gm wrote:how many of you have ever been to a Golden League meet?


Yup, Rome 2004.
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