First of all, I want to congratulatethe US women for their silver medal in the 4 x 100 meter relay. But they should have won! Why did Chryste Gaines not anchor?! Not taking away from Torri Edwards who is an extremely gifted 100 and 200 runner with a better than average start but running from a flying start she's no match for C. Arrone from France. Gaines in my opinion could match if not outdo Arrone from a flying start.
Besides if Kelli White would have ran, it would not have been close. I hope the IAAF doesn't drag her case on for more than a month, that should not even be a factor.
One more comment/ I was appalled at the French women for they did after the race. WHen Dwight Stones was in the midst of interviewing the US womens relay team, the French women decided to take a stroll behind the US women in full view of the camera and give give a wave out and I have a feeling they weren't waving just to say how ya' doin'.
I can't wait for the Olympic final. (White, Gaines, Edwards, Jones ) equals GOLD! WR! (40.?) or at least 41.1. Zippy-Dee-Doo-Dah and Away We Go!
So that makes it OK huh?!
I guess since the US men's 1996 4x100 Olympic team made themselves look like imbecils after crossing the finish line at Atlanta all men and women who represent the US in any track and field event are game to have their nosed rubbed in the bung everytime they lose?
>So that makes it OK huh?!
I guess since the US men's 1996 4x100 Olympic team made themselves look like imbecils after crossing the finish line at Atlanta all men and women who represent the US in any track and field event are game to have their nosed rubbed in the bung everytime they lose?<<
They couldn't have done it in 1996, the US lost to Canada!
But, don't complain about a simple wave. US men in 2000 OG made a bigger mess, Remember James carter (400H) in Sydney???
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
>>>>One more comment/ I was
>appalled at the French women for they did after
Yeah, the US has ALWAYS been a modicum of decorum. Please.
mjd you are wrong ! justifying bad behavior by pointing out another case of bad behavior does not fly. sure drummond is a clown, but bernard behaved himself much better this time. and by the way it it not the first time the french have acted like this, in 91 they were talking and moking during the playing of the us anthem for the men's 4 x 1 relay thriumph.
I think the coach made the right decision given the following:
Kellie Whites sudden withdrawal from the relay.
Option 1 - Move Torri to anchor and have her practice receiving the baton from Inger. The rest of the team remains intact.
Option 2 - Move Torri to second leg and Christie to anchor because I am scared of the French and have no confidence in Torri on anchor. Christie now has to practice receiving the baton from Inger. Torri has to practice receiving the baton from Angela and handing off to Inger.
In the time frame in which they had to work I can understand why the coaches opted for option 1.
2000 Olympic relay in Sidney, My mistake. The 96' team should have won it still. If they had ran Marsh on 2nd leg, Kevin Williams on third and King Carl on anchor. Bailey would have never walked him down.
They took the low risk, low reward strategy that pretty much ensured they would get something from the race. The other approach if it had worked would have seen them probably win the gold, or they might not have got the stick around
>mjd you are wrong !
>justifying bad behavior by pointing out another
>case of bad behavior does not fly.
That was just my honest reaction to a rah rah post by JP(and there is nothing wrong with that.) He's celebrating a gold in Athens already so I figure the French women can be forgiven, at least by him, for getting a little carried away. I just thought it was funny.
...Not to mention that I do believe Jeff once ran the 200 in 19.85. If I'm not mistaken, he ran 19.86 at the 1996 trials behind Michael Johnson's 19.66. I'll have to go back and check my magazines to verify.
>mjd you are wrong !
>justifying bad behavior
>by pointing out another
>case of bad behavior
>does not fly.
That was just my honest reaction
>to a rah rah post by JP(and there is nothing
>wrong with that.) He's celebrating a gold in
>Athens already so I figure the French women can
>be forgiven, at least by him, for getting a
>little carried away. I just thought it was funny.>
must be difficult spending the entire day thinking up little potshots to take at the country to your south.
We got a little complex?
Boo hoo little boy, somebody took your medal 15 years ago and your going to cry about it until you get everyone back......WAAAAHHHHHHHH!
In '96 the order should have been Drummond, Marsh, Dennis Mitchell, King Carl. Remember guys Dennis has a tremendous amount of relay experience at 3rd leg. He's been on a few world record holding teams handing off to Carl. Doesn't mean the U.S. would've won as Donovan ran I believe the fastest anchor split ever recorded. I do believe however that the U.S. coaches should have realized that Carl with a running start is monster. Don't know what happened to Tim Harden on that 2nd leg. Looks like he was running into hurricane going the opposite way!
Actually Donovan Bailey ran an anchor leg of 8.95s in the Atlanta OG Men's 4x100m relay final.
He did slow down about 15m from the line and ran the last 10m with the baton pointed to the sky.
Without slowing down, and without the victory celebration he could of run an anchor of around 8.75s.
This meant that the Canadian team would of had a time of 37.49s.
So when Donovan apologised for him slowing down and saying that that antic cost them a World Record, he was way off.Wellonly 0.09s off!
He did run an anchor leg of 8.83s in the Semi-Final of the Men's 4x100m relay. But I cannot remember what the CAN team's time was.
I'll have to check.
this could almost be a separate thread, but I'll leave it here:
I am always reading these statements, through the years of ".... if he hadn't slowed down the last ...meters thaen he could have run ( such and such ) faster...".
Maybe this is being overdone. Is it even remotely possible that sometimes, by relaxing the last few whatever meters, it does not cost them these time amounts... or at least, less than people claim ? Has there been any scientific analysis of any of this ? How many times times are sprinters told to "run relaxed, with a floppy jaw and hands " ?
I am not a coach but I just think these cavalier one and 2 tenths of a second, or more, that people cite are overblown.
First, please excuse my poor english...
Why don't u congratulate french team ? Why do u congratulate the loser instead of the winner ?
Why trying to find any excuse to US team ?
The french was the best because their team was built to win. The US could not win even with Kelly White present. They are superior in pure speed by the french are technically much more better. I hope the IAAF will punish Kelly who is the only guilty in this affair.
Rendez-vous at the Olympic final but i am afraid for you that the result will be the same than last saturday.
Be sure that french people admire US athlets but the true.
I told that about Kelly who i really appreciated until the affair you know
When I remember that last year in Paris meeting ! she was already implicated for the same reason i wonder how to be indulgent with her ?