JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500


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JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Randy Treadway » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:56 am

She stuck in the "slow heat" and finished 6th- she had to be in the top five.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Bob Duncan » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:59 am

She seemed quite upset when Carol Lewis interviewed her. She was running wide the whole race, looking in control, "out of trouble".

Ceplak had faded and must have put on one heckuva kick at the end.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Brian Gates » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:02 pm

Looks like she settled for a slow pace and then got blasted by the faster sprinters at the end... sucks
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:18 pm

She just melted down. Was in 2nd 250M out , held her position, and 5 passed her in the last 120.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Randy Treadway » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:21 pm

>Was in 2nd 250M out , held her position, and 5 passed her in the last 120.

Well she must've got one of 'em back at the wire, 'cause she finished 6th.
Sounds like it was entirely a matter of tactics...
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby MJR » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:25 pm

Bet SFH is smiling, esp after she said that Regina would "get hers" in Europe. Not that she's any better at this stuff....
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:00 pm

"Bet SFH is smiling, esp after she said that Regina would "get hers" in Europe. Not that she's any better at this stuff...."

You got that shit right, pal. Does Sydney 2000 still ring a bell?

Regina still has the remainder of the European season to improve on her 4:01.63 at the U.S. Championships, and maybe move up in the top 10.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:35 pm

It has not been a good year for US 1500 meter running. In fact it may be the worse year ever for US metric milers. Let's hope things improve next year.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:00 pm

Jacobs got really beat up by the three Russians at about 800. Could have taken a lot out of her.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Randy Treadway » Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:03 pm

>Jacobs got really beat up by the three Russians at about 800. Could have taken a lot out of her.

Them dad-blabbed Rooskies! Trust but verify my #(&@($!!!
I knew we shudda nooked 'em back in '62!
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:09 pm

it is ridiculous to compare regina jacobs who has won four medals in major events and suzy whatever last name she is using who has NEVER won a medal. regina did not race enough this summer and it showed in the final 80 meters. by the way suzy hamilton will NEVER win a medal no matter what good shape she claims she is in !
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:10 pm

Having "been there, done that," I understand what it's like to compete at that level at age 38, 39, 40. The thing that went first was the ability to surge or react quickly. Although I could still run very fast, tactical races were killer. As I got older, I could not rely on the late kick. I had to work from 600 meters out and "outstrength" them. The big mistake after age 35 is to think you can wait to kick in the last 150-200 meters. Outkicking American women at our nationals is not the same as outkicking top-level international runners. Everyone out there can run the last 400 under 60.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Brian Gates » Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:19 pm

>it is ridiculous to compare regina jacobs who has
>won four medals in major events and suzy whatever
>last name she is using who has NEVER won a medal.
>regina did not race enough this summer and it
>showed in the final 80 meters. by the way suzy
>hamilton will NEVER win a medal no matter what
>good shape she claims she is in !

I agree....... so why does she have one of the biggest Nike contracts?
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:31 pm

Probably because she is supposedly a cute, blonde girl
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Bob Duncan » Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:34 pm

>Probably because she is supposedly a cute, blonde girl

SFH IS a cute, blonde girl. Nothing wrong with that and she deserves every red cent that she's made with her calendar and magazine covers.

These athletes are like thoroughbred horses: powerful, magnificant, but fragile. Although I regret their disappointing results in many of the big meets, they have provided us with lot of thrills and shown gutsy performances many times. Many of them have just had bad luck. People around here act like a "poor" performance is some kind of a character flaw. It has got to be tough to keep going year after year without breaking down. Thoroughbred horses only race for a couple of years. We expect these men and women to act like gladiators or something for our entertainment and then put them down when they have an off day.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:44 pm

>it is ridiculous to compare regina jacobs who has
>won four medals in major events and suzy whatever
>last name she is using who has NEVER won a medal.
>regina did not race enough this summer and it
>showed in the final 80 meters. by the way suzy
>hamilton will NEVER win a medal no matter what
>good shape she claims she is in !

I agree completely. Even though she may not have been at her best, Regina Jacobs was there giving it her best shot. Not every athlete who made the team can say they did that. She deserves a lot of credit.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:02 pm

>"Bet SFH is smiling, esp after she said that
>Regina would "get hers" in Europe. Not that
>she's any better at this stuff...."

You got
>that shit right, pal. Does Sydney 2000 still
>ring a bell?

yeah, what happened there? she freaked or something....started eating glass or something when she lost?
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:15 pm

>She seemed quite upset when Carol Lewis
>interviewed her. She was running wide the whole
>race, looking in control, "out of
>trouble".

Since she found out that she was eliminated during the interview it probably took an awful lot to retain the composure she showed although she was clearly irritated.

It was sort of like interviewing the pitcher who's given up the game winning HR.

Let them catch their breathe.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:17 pm

>>Jacobs got really beat up by the three Russians
>at about 800. Could have taken a lot out of
>her.

Nothing to do with the tactics but why were all three Russians in one heat and the 2 British ladies in one heat? Don't they tend to break them up in cases like that?
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:38 am

You got
>that shit right, pal. Does Sydney 2000 still
>ring a bell?

Yeah where the hell was Regina for that one?
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Sat Aug 30, 2003 10:14 am

>Having "been there, done that," I understand
>what it's like to compete at that level at age
>38, 39, 40. The thing that went first was the
>ability to surge or react quickly. Although I
>could still run very fast, tactical races were
>killer. As I got older, I could not rely on the
>late kick. I had to work from 600 meters out and
>"outstrength" them. The big mistake after age
>35 is to think you can wait to kick in the last
>150-200 meters. Outkicking American women at our
>nationals is not the same as outkicking top-level
>international runners. Everyone out there can
>run the last 400 under 60.

You've said it all Ruth. Debate over. Regina is a great champion and her disappointment here cannot overshadow a great career.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:04 am

"You've said it all Ruth. Debate over. Regina is a great champion and her disappointment here cannot overshadow a great career."

Well said. Perhaps she should have employed the same strategy she had when she ran her 3:59.98 in Boston; that is, go out hard (but not as hard as that Boston race), and dictate the pace, rather than let the Russians control it. Then again, she should have started her kick at the 1,200 mark, and strung out the pack on the back straight. Quite possibly, she would have got to the finish line before anyone else came up and eliminated her.

It may be that the strain of having to run heats (4:08) and semis (4:06) in this event, over a span of 2 days, is catching up with her at her age (she ran 65.0 in the final 400 of her semi). If there were only heats and finals, she might have stood a better chance of qualifying (unless, of course, the competition ran much faster in the heats).

She won't have to worry about running this event 2 or 3 days apart with the rest of the season. With any luck, she'll be back in 3:59 shape, and ready to go the the American record. Of course, she'll need Sureyya Ayhan in one of those races. Even splits for her will be the key.
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby Guest » Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:08 am

ERRATA

"With any luck, she'll be back in 3:59 shape, and ready to go the the American record."

should read

"With any luck, she'll be back in 3:59 shape, and ready to go FOR the American record."
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Re: JACOBS ELIMINATED in the 1500

Postby gingin » Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:10 am

Perhaps this will give Regina the idea to move up to the 5K for Athens. All she had left to do at 1500 was break four minutes and now that she has done that...As she has aged she may have lost some of her raw speed but she is stronger now and her kick would be more impressive at the longer distance. In a tatical 5K at Athens she could still be very dangerous
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