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men's 200m

Postby superhype80 » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:26 pm

Who will win the gold
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Half Miler » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:28 pm

The Doctor is in!
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Randy Treadway » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:30 pm

Capel
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:24 pm

capel thinks he is da shyt right now. but Doc gonna put him in his place. i be u anything u wont look at Doc when he crosses the line
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:54 pm

Who is Doc?
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Randy Treadway » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:12 pm

And who is u?
Are you addressing Capel or me?
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Randy Treadway » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:14 pm

If "Doc" (I'm guessing you mean Patton) is first across the line, why wouldn't I look at him?
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Randy Treadway » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:15 pm

>Who will win the gold

Who's on first.
Capel will win the gold.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Brian Gates » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:43 pm

I hope John Capel gets his ass busted by Fredericks..... sorry to root against America's best hope but I really don't like the guy. He thinks this is the NBA where he can score points with the fans by acting an ass
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Re: men's 200m

Postby The Flash » Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:38 pm

I have to pull for Fredricks too, although, if I put aside my "hopes", I would have to go with Patton--he looks dang good. Sub-20 to the winner.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:13 pm

for those who said that the race wouldn't be no where near under 20...care to rethink that?

I'm still not sure between Patton and Capel...20.03 was not only a p.r. for Patton but just looked so easy. Capel looks like he has a lot left in the tank as well. Right now I'm gonna go Patton then Capel.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:06 am

Welcome all to the Darvis "Doc" Patton bandwagon. I have been telling you all since June that he is the real deal.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:14 am

patton did well last summer in what seemed to be his first serious summer season. capel has always had tremendous talent and should have never left for football. buckland is an outsider and could surprise. the japanese cant go any faster than he has already. everybody likes frankie, but i doubt he will even medal in what could be his last big meet race. jj johnson is stuck in lane one, with his height he has no chance to do anything from there. i think it is between capel and patton woth buckland third.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:21 am

If Patton and Capel are caught sleeping on that turn, keep an eye on Suetsugu (whom Capel was looking at as he crossed the line in the semi). If he comes around that turn faster than he did in that 20.03 he ran earlier this summer, and holds it down the straightaway, the U.S. will have a lot more than Kenteris to worry about next year.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby gh » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:22 am

Start list for the final:

1 1407 Johnson Joshua J. USA 20.05 19.88
2 513 Campbell Darren GBR 20.34 20.13
3 960 Buckland Stéphane MRI 20.06 20.06
4 1422 Patton Darvis USA 20.03 20.03
5 766 Suetsugu Shingo JPN 20.03 20.03
6 1383 Capel John USA 20.17 19.85
7 974 Fredericks Frank NAM 20.23 19.68
8 1006 Emedolu Uchenna NGR

Also known as.... JJ is toast! (after his first 50m in the semis, he was lucky to get in anyway). Note that the Doc will have Suetsugu (and Capel) in his sights. This is all the edge he needs (and maybe he didn't need one). Capel doesn't seem to be exhibiting a lot of top-end staying power. And his attempted stare-down of Suetsugu-san was incredibly bush league.

Dark horse pick: Buckland
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Re: men's 200m

Postby superhype80 » Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:23 am

I will take my chances with Suetsugu Shingo
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Re: men's 200m

Postby DentyCracker » Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:28 am

Didn't Patton used to long jump at TCU?
I think he'll win from Capel. I actually like John Capel. I think he has come back from a huge disappointment in Sydney and taken it well
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:08 am

Capel is a jerk, but he will probably win the race in around 19.9. Kenteris at full strength would have won soundly. Suetsugu has been impressive, and will be able to play off Capel in the final and he drew the best lane (5). Patton is a good guy so I hope he beats Capel. It's good to be confident but looking at your opponent at the finish line is something kids on the playground do when they race to see who is faster.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:42 am

After seeing Capel acting like an ass and trash talking his competitors in the last 20m I'm hoping for a repeat of Sydney for him. What is up with these American sprinters? Is being a jerk built into their DNA?
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:49 am

>I will take my chances with Suetsugu Shingo

Why do I get the feeling that the rest of the field will underestimate Shingo's straightaway speed, like they did in the semis. And like the the Sydney 2000 field estimated Kederis's straightaway. Didn't Capel flinch in that one? Peace.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:50 am

"Why do I get the feeling that the rest of the field will underestimate Shingo's straightaway speed, like they did in the semis. And like the the Sydney 2000 field estimated Kederis's straightaway. Didn't Capel flinch in that one? Peace."

I think you mean 'underestimated' in that second sentence. But you hit it right on the nose. If they blink, or, if Capel turns his head at the wrong time, Suetsugu might just crack 20.00. I think it may take a 19.92 to win.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby tafnut » Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:58 am

I used to think Capel too, but please allow me on the Patton bandwagon now. Watch his finish in the semi's. I read his mind. He was thinking, "Is that all they got? This is mine for the taking."
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Randy Treadway » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:11 am

Whassup Doc?

Congrats to U.S. 1-2-6
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:13 am

Suetsugu is third. When was the last time a Japanese runner won a WC or Oly sprint medal?
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:15 am

I wonder why the times are so slow? Is it a soft track or something?
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:18 am

Slowest times ever for worlds ... Olympics hasn't been this slow since 64.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:26 am

Is this the 200m walk?
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Randy Treadway » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:30 am

THIS 23.8er from 30 years ago says "I cudda been a condendah!"

(well in my dreams I scored a winning touchdown in the Super Bowl too, and got a trip to Disney World)
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:32 am

And I was a lock for 9th place! Medic! Medic!
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:19 pm

Frankie will have to produce his best to will this one. So i'm going with the Japanese
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Randy Treadway » Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:44 pm

>Frankie will have to produce his best to will
>this one. So i'm going with the Japanese

Call Vegas and see if they'll quote you odds....:)

Shall we tell 'im guys? ....NAHHH!!!
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:15 pm

best us finish in a while in this event, i think the last time we went 1-2 was in 88 !
the times were probably slow due to the wet track, nobody i am sure wanted to slip on the turn and dnf. and by the way kenteris would NOT have won this time and wont next yeat either.
capel and patton will only get better along with coby miller, jj johnson, crawford, williams. i think that the person to be reckoned with next year will be gatlin, hopefully he will not get injured before the trials like this year. gatlin has a 19.86 in a semi in the ncaa and that speaks volumes about his potential. the 200 at the trials next year will be a barnburner and hopefully will live to the hype unlike the same race at the 2000 trials.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:24 pm

Congrats U.S.!!!!

What is this about Capel being a jerk or an ass? Do you know him? Have you ever met him? Probably not. He is a great person and a great competitor and just likes to go out there and have fun. Hats off to him.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:38 pm

"...by the way kenteris would NOT have won this time and wont next yeat either.
... gatlin has a 19.86 in a semi in the ncaa and that speaks volumes about his potential"

Please reconcile for me

1. Kenteris has a 19.85, so why does this not speak volumes about his potential?

2. Gatlin's 19.86 is two years old; Kenteris' 19.85 is from 2002. Same question as above.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby michael lewis » Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:10 pm

"kenteris would NOT have won this time "

Based on the winning time of 20.30? AVERAGE Kenteris' winning times from Sydney, Edmonton, and Munich, and you get 19.93. 20.09, 20.04, and 19.85. When was the last time a World or Olympic title was won in such a SLOW time as today? Without getting out any books I'm guessing it's 1960 or 1964.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:18 pm

I believe it's 1964: Henry Carr in 20.3. I hope I'm remembering it correctly.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:34 pm

Whew!! These guys were spared being embarassed by the Jamaican Federation when they withdrew Bolt.

Do you realize that the winning time is only marginally better than the winning time at the World Youth Champs which was run in pouring rain.

Do you realize that the winning time is slower than the winning time at the Pan Am Juniors when the winner slowed approaching the finish line and turned sideways

and worst of all....

Do you realize that the winning time is slower than the winning time at the Jamaica High School Champs

The participants should each deny ever having been in this race.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:13 pm

"The participants should each deny ever having been in this race."

Whatever. These guys are quality guys. Are they capable of running faster? Yes. But the point is they got a medal. They are happy about that, they feel like they accomplished something big, and they have nothing to hang their heads about. They will be a threat in the years to come no matter who is in the race.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:30 pm

>Whew!! These guys were spared being embarassed
>by the Jamaican Federation when they withdrew
>Bolt.

Yeah, but all that most will remember is who won the day. That's how it is in most sports.
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Re: men's 200m

Postby Guest » Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:11 am

Do you remember the first three past the finish line in Moscow in either the 100 or 200 without looking it up?

Forgettable right.

This race while competitive was a tad disappointing, not necessarily because of the slow time but also because of who was missing.

Now we have to wait another year to get some questions answered.
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