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Oh, that 12:57

Postby Half Miler » Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:38 pm

So, if the winning time in the 5000 is around 13 minutes, Bekele will have run the fastest 5k in the Champs, whether he's victorious or not.

Has this ever happened before?

Has an athlete ran faster EN ROUTE than the winner of a shorter event (excluding 200/100) in a championship meet?

I can't think of any other example.

Would be fun to see Bekele win in 12:58 or so, just so that his amazing negative-split will be remembered even more.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby Guest » Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:46 pm

>So, if the winning time in the 5000 is around 13
>minutes, Bekele will have run the fastest 5k in
>the Champs, whether he's victorious or
>not.

Has this ever happened before?

Has an
>athlete ran faster EN ROUTE than the winner of a
>shorter event (excluding 200/100) in a
>championship meet?

I can't think of any other
>example.

Would be fun to see Bekele win in
>12:58 or so, just so that his amazing
>negative-split will be remembered even more.

in the womens world record 10k, wang junxia ran her second 5k in 14.26, which is faster than the current womens 5k record of 14.28
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby Half Miler » Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:54 pm

great example..forgot about that.

So, using T&FN's model:
Bekele 12:57.25 (1, 1 non-Chinese).

Don't think it's happened in a World or Oly Champs, though.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby dl » Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:06 am

In the '87 10K, Paul Kipkoech (RIP) ran his last 5k in 13:25.57, faster than the 13:26.44 that Aouita ran to win the 5000 later that week.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby michael lewis » Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:23 am

Does anyone know what Wang's splits were in her record 3k (8:06) ? first 1500? second?
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby MJD » Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:35 am

Don't think it's happened in a
>World or Oly Champs, though.

Wasn't there a major men's 5000 run in around 15:00 somewhere once? Maybe just at a meet.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby gh » Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:46 am

Harald Norpoth and Michel Jazy had a famous race (maybe twice?) along that line in Euro Cup competition. A classic see-who-blinks-first competition with a last 800 in something like 1:52 as I recall.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby MJD » Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:48 am

>Harald Norpoth and Michel Jazy had a famous race
>(maybe twice?) along that line in Euro Cup
>competition. A classic see-who-blinks-first
>competition with a last 800 in something like
>1:52 as I recall.

I'm thinking recent history but maybe I'm dreaming.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby Guest » Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:50 am

MJD - your not dreaming - 1-2 years ago I believe the grand prix final went in 15+ (I think) with a 52ish last last and a bunch of guys finishing within a few seconds.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby Guest » Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:00 am

I thought that 15+ was in the world cup.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby MJD » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:43 am

>I thought that 15+ was in the world cup.

Finally came up with it. Goodwill Games 2001. Men's 5000 was slower than the women's.
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby rh » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:14 am

Her kilo splits were 2:42.0 - 2:47.7 - 2:36.5, so it's reasonable to assume that her 1500 splits were around 4:06 + 4:00.1. In her 10k record the fastest 3k was 8:17.5 and the fastest 5k was 14:14.0, both comfortably ahead of the current WRs
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Re: Oh, that 12:57

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:34 pm

Whatever happened to Ms. Wang X. I heard that she enrolled at like Colorado State or something.
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