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Berlin comments

Postby tafnut » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:34 am

In addition to the men's 100 and women's 1500 (gh's thread), other significant situations include Kelly White over Sturrup, making her (arguably) the Paris favorite and AJ's third place. Since I refuse to budge him off the victor's pedestal, please tell me he hit LOTS of hurdles along the way.
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby tafnut » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:38 am

Plus, who was on the USA's 37.77? I assume our WC coaches put out the Paris team (ala T&FN article this month)
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:58 am

Jon Drummond, Bernard Williams, Darvis Patton and Maurive Greene.
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby gh » Sun Aug 10, 2003 8:37 am

<.... and AJ's third
>place. Since I refuse to budge him off the
>victor's pedestal, please tell me he hit LOTS of
>hurdles along the way.

European Editor RL Quercetani, in passing in an e-mail note on another subject this morning after watching Berlin on TV referred to him as "hurdle-bashing AJ" so I assume that's the case.
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:46 am

Also, who was on the B team that went 38.12??? I have to think Monty, Miller and Gatlin are still in the relay mix, right?
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Postby Pego » Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:00 am

I thought Monty came home. My guess is Capel-Miller-Crawford-Gatlin.
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:09 am

Well, the IAAF story mentions that JJ Johnson was gaining fast on Greene, so I guess he was the anchor. That's all that was said about the B team though.
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Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:38 pm

I keep telling you gusy about "Doc'Patton. He won the 100m 10.17 with a poor start and a helluva 3rd leg
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Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:00 pm

I have to agree about Doc Patton. Not only does he obviously have the speed, he runs the turn better than anybody out there. Plus he has the experience, running 3rd leg in college while at TCU. If you have ever seen him run it in person, you know there is nobody better for 3rd.
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby gh » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:35 pm

As soon as I type this, somebody will come up with an example that "disproves" it, but 200 guys traditionally get the short end of the stick (pun intended) when it comes to berths on U.S. 4x1 teams
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby tafnut » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:39 pm

I just thought of a 'proof'. I don't ever remember Michael Johnson on an OG or WC 4x1 team. If he wasn't considered 'good' enough, who is? (and yes I realize he was a little busy tripling, but still)
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:57 pm

So true gh! We all know Michael could have easily been on those 4x100 teams. He didn't have a great start from the blocks,but from a running start, there was no one better than MJ on the curve. Dennis Mitchell was great, but I feel MJ was probably a step or two ahead of him on the curve. That said, I hope that opens it up for John Capel who has been running very well. Our best team right now might be Drummond,Gatlin or JJ Johnson,Capel or Patton, and Williams. Isn't it ironic that everyone was hyping Greene and Montgomery earlier in the season for the relay. The way they are running right now is opening a door for other capable guys.
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2003 9:25 pm

a team of Capel,Williams,Patton,JJ would shatter the world record the million dollar question is does the coaches have the cojones to go with that line up?
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Re: Berlin comments

Postby Guest » Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:27 am

Allen Johnson hit 6 or 7 of the hurdles, 3 of them hard. Olijars smacked one hurdle, and fell beind Johnson before passing him around the 8th hurdle. The Latvian looks as if he can run 13.00, but if AJ is right 13.00 will not be quite enough.

Most amusing moment from Berlin came from an interview with Kelli White. Asked by the British interviewer "I suppose you must feel sorry for Sturrup" White just looked at the interviewer (across her face a brief moment of - are you crazy) and then moved politely into describing her own race.

No-one watching the 100 could guess the 1-2-3, made particularly difficult when Fredericks, announced as the winner, later became 1= with Capel. The wind was swirling, predominantly a cross-wind, it managed to help the women (3 under 10.90) and hinder the men (who would have run around 10.05 with a +1.6)

Hestrie Cloete was clearly the best athlete of the day, moving into =5 on the all-time list with her 2.05, and (from memory) made every height 1st time up to 2.05
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