Robles One Unhappy Camper


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Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby guru » Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:38 pm

Threatens to sit entire 2013 season over treatment by Cuban sports hierarchy

http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackandfie ... coach-says
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby The Klingon » Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:55 pm

"Antunez says the dispute is not about money, but rather about treatment on a human personal level."

Interesting statement. I wonder what it really means. :? :?:
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby GDAWG » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:14 pm

Would he defect?
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby Marlow » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:26 pm

The Klingon wrote:Interesting statement. I wonder what it really means. :? :?:

It means it's about the money.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:46 pm

His schedule last year was absurd. I think he ran at the Pan-Am Games.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby dj » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:20 pm

JumboElliott wrote:His schedule last year was absurd. I think he ran at the Pan-Am Games.


Wha? Pan-Am is always in the pre-Olympic year.

He had a very thin schedule in 2012: three indoor meets in Feb., three outdoors in May, and then the Olympics.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby ATK » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:19 pm

dj wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:His schedule last year was absurd. I think he ran at the Pan-Am Games.


Wha? Pan-Am is always in the pre-Olympic year.

He had a very thin schedule in 2012: three indoor meets in Feb., three outdoors in May, and then the Olympics.

I'm almost certain he was injured after the meets in May.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby Blues » Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:25 pm

People might remember this from last March... The issues are probably somewhat related.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/n ... etirement/

"Cuba's injury-plagued Olympic hurdles champion Dayron Robles said he's considering retirement after he defends his title at the London Games."....

"Robles would not give any details about the injury, other than to say it was a recurring issue. He said he was so bothered by it that he was well off his best at an event last month in Stockholm.
"At the last competition, and many people saw this, I was practically race walking because I couldn't do anything," Robles said."....

"In addition to the injury, Robles has complained recently about Cuba's poor training facilities. He called them "terrible," accusing the country's sports authorities of a lack of support.
"Nobody comes around to ask about anything, but they do come to demand results," he said in January.".....
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby JumboElliott » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:35 pm

dj wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:His schedule last year was absurd. I think he ran at the Pan-Am Games.


Wha? Pan-Am is always in the pre-Olympic year.

He had a very thin schedule in 2012: three indoor meets in Feb., three outdoors in May, and then the Olympics.

Still adjusting to 2013. I should have said 2011.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby berkeley » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:05 pm

GDAWG wrote:Would he defect?

Certainly not to the US :)
Robles strikes me as a guy who's never happy. Have you ever heard him say something gracious about someone else ?
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby gh » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:09 am

It's a bit of a slippery slope to paint a whole group of people with the same wide brush, but my general impression has long that smiling isn't a big thing among Cuban athletes. Quirot and Sotomayor, for high-profile examples were always masters of the stone face. (Juanto an exception to the rule)
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby guru » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:38 pm

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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby gh » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:55 pm

Amazing that he was so good for so long, and only turned 26 last November. He can easily (well, relatively speaking) change his mind in a year or so and make it back.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby gh » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:25 pm

longer story (w/ a Universal race video) now posted to front page
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby marknhj » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:02 pm

I'm surprised that he's only 26 too. I'd guess that a combination of things have caused him to make this decision. Ongoing frustration at having apparently crap training facilities made worse by his exposure to those of other countries; absolute frustration with injuries preventing him from competing, or being competitive; the personal fiscal impact of his injuries on whatever deal he has with Cuban authorities. All made a hundred times worse by 12.80.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby Marlow » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:13 pm

guru wrote:Robles now retiring(supposedly)

I'm not a big fan of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. He'd be the Biggest Loser in retiring.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby ATK » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:07 pm

Marlow wrote:
guru wrote:Robles now retiring(supposedly)

I'm not a big fan of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. He'd be the Biggest Loser in retiring.

I agree with you.

I'm curious what other Cuban athletes have said and how they have reacted regarding the lack of attention from Cuban sports officials.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby JumboElliott » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:31 pm

Shame he didn't try to defect after Beijing.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby GDAWG » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:29 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Shame he didn't try to defect after Beijing.


He probably considered it, but didn't think it was worth the hassle.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:34 pm

Not too many T&F athletes I root against, but he's one of them. Bit of a Diva.
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Postby Per Andersen » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:34 pm

bruce3404 wrote:Not too many T&F athletes I root against, but he's one of them. Bit of a Diva.

I sure as hell loved to watch him over the years. One of the greats. If he's gone, too bad.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby Jon » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:08 am

I have it on good authority that Robles is NOT retiring. He's frustrated with the federation and doesn't want to run for Cuba, but he's just taking a sabbatical and will likely return in 2014. If he hasn't ironed things out with the federation by then, I guess he could well represent a different country when he returns.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby GDAWG » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:12 am

Jon wrote:I have it on good authority that Robles is NOT retiring. He's frustrated with the federation and doesn't want to run for Cuba, but he's just taking a sabbatical and will likely return in 2014. If he hasn't ironed things out with the federation by then, I guess he could well represent a different country when he returns.


I am going to guess the new country if things are not resolved: Spain.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby Marlow » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:19 am

GDAWG wrote:I am going to guess the new country if things are not resolved: Spain.

Jamaica, mon!
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby GDAWG » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:22 am

Marlow wrote:
GDAWG wrote:I am going to guess the new country if things are not resolved: Spain.

Jamaica, mon!


Only if he masters English. His lack of English eliminates him from any English speaking country, although he might consider Puerto Rico, which is an American territory.

Besides, if he went to Jamaica, he would not even be the best 110 meter hurdler in Jamaica.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby Marlow » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:26 am

GDAWG wrote:Besides, if he went to Jamaica, he would not even be the best 110 meter hurdler in Jamaica.

I come not to praise Robles, but to bury him. :shock:
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby bushop » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:58 am

GDAWG wrote:
Marlow wrote:
GDAWG wrote:I'm going to guess the new country if things are not resolved: Spain.
Jamaica
Only if he masters English. His lack of English eliminates him from any English speaking country, although he might consider Puerto Rico, which is an American territory.

How come?
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby toyracer » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:14 pm

GDAWG wrote:Besides, if he went to Jamaica, he would not even be the best 110 meter hurdler in Jamaica.


Why not? He was 13.00 two years ago. 13.10 last year. Faster than our new national record holder Parchment.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby GDAWG » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:52 pm

bushop wrote:
GDAWG wrote:
Marlow wrote:
GDAWG wrote:I'm going to guess the new country if things are not resolved: Spain.
Jamaica
Only if he masters English. His lack of English eliminates him from any English speaking country, although he might consider Puerto Rico, which is an American territory.

How come?


Probably because a majority of the media in the English speaking countries speak English. Plus, he would probably have to interact with his new teammates, many of whom speak only English.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby bushop » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:35 pm

GDAWG wrote:
bushop wrote:
GDAWG wrote:[Spain or Jamacia] Only if he masters English. His lack of English eliminates him from any English speaking country, although he might consider Puerto Rico, which is an American territory.
How come?
Probably because a majority of the media in the English speaking countries speak English. Plus, he would probably have to interact with his new teammates, many of whom speak only English.

There are multiple professional athletes in the US that speak little, if any, English. I would guess the same is true in Europe.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby GDAWG » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:53 pm

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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby t_monk » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:19 pm



THANK THE HURDLES GODS!!!!!
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby MDelano » Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:42 pm

He may be back on the track but not back in form.
Finished 6th in 13.82s in Turin yesterday. Race won by Osaghae in 13.49 (-0.3).

http://www.memorialprimonebiolo.org/ITA/RisultatiGare.aspx?ID=165&LV=0
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby The Klingon » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:03 am

This does not surprise me at all. I never believed he was going to retire anyway.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby iain » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:40 am

He may not be picked for Cuban teams. Yamile Aldama was prevented from competing for Cuba when she moved away from the island. Also, 400m runner Indira Terrero has not been picked for a team for a while, despite consistently being their best performer.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby 110hedgeNYC » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:39 pm

Really hoping that Robles can make a strong comeback. He's one of the greatest technicians the event has ever seen. He's magic over hurdles. Mind boggling.

Would be awesome to see him healthy and in the finals at Worlds.
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Re: Robles One Unhappy Camper

Postby t_monk » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:45 pm

The mere fact that he is running again I am a happy camper. It will take him a while to get his rhythm back but I rest in the hope that he will... eventually. This season might very well be a bust for him though.
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